PennBoy: Poles are a proud people we are proud to be Polish, we're proud to be Slavs your problem is BB that you believe we want to be like you we really don't,I know Poles who are rich and have no reason to wish they're German and still point out Germans bad manners, girls "beauty", rudeness and other things. That is not a good example of Poles though.
Des Essientes: Nietzsche's circumstance was that he felt soceities with a strong independent aristocracy were superior and he thus he admired the szlachta and their refusal to submit to autocracy. The German aristocracy had submitted to autocracy and Germany's strongest class was its middle class and Nietzsche despised the paltry middle class virtues of hard work and obedience to authority and in this he was truly Polish. I feel many Polish-Americans on this forum respect productivity and efficiency more than the finer things in life like idleness and aesthetic contemplation and that is why they are Crypto-Germans.
That sums it up quite well.
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