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sjamThreads: 5
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Joined: Jan 13, 09 ♂ 		 Oct 17, 09, 14:43    #31
MareGaea:
Did you know that in fact Germans are the largest ethnic group in the US

I did, a friend of mine is writing a book about the German immigration into USA, in particular the origins of the German farming community in Texas.
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Joined: May 17, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: southern  Oct 17, 09, 23:49    #32
literaturecat:
What Was Happening in Poland around 1905?

Around 1905 some people drank Zywiec,some others liked vodka.
cheehawThreads: 9
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Joined: Oct 10, 09 ♀ 		 Oct 18, 09, 01:26    #33
I guess it all depends on which version of history you are taught.

These quotes are from 1920, from the Illustrated Sunday Herald.

"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews...

"In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses.

"The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.

"...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian people."

and you know who wrote those words? Winston Churchill.
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Joined: Sep 2, 07  Pictures: 1 ♀ 		 Oct 18, 09, 14:30    #34
During the times of peak immigration, the older census forms asked what nationality and what language was spoken at home. Two of my grandparents were listed as Russians and two great grandparents were listed as Germans because they came over during the partitions. Of the ones listed as from Russia, (ethnic Germans) one declared German to be the spoken language at home, and the other declared Polish on one census and German on another census. The ones that were listed as German, (Poles), declared themselves to be Polish speakers at home.

I think that gives a pretty good idea of ethnicity in most cases, even though Poland was not a country at the time. One of my ancestors evidently had an identity crisis! LOL

I think that as far as Polish immigration to the states went, that time period late 1800's and early 1900's were considered to be "bread" emmigration from the partitioned areas of Poland. People were poor and looking for opportunity.
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Joined: Aug 10, 08 ♀ 		Edited by: literaturecat  Oct 18, 09, 15:41    #35
Thanks for responding, everyone. Clearly the situation was more complex than I had imagined. I was assuming the reasons were economic, but clearly there might have been political reasons as well.


Cheechaw--my family didn't settle in New York. They settled in a town called Chicopee outside of Springfield, Massachusetts. There's a very large Polish community there, and I remember going to the Keilbasa festival as a young girl and paying a dollar to see the world's largest keilbasa. LOL. (Sadly, they've done away with that festival.)

Can anyone recommend a good book on Polish history? I picked up some ancient tome from my local library but it was pretty dull and unreadable. (And I have a high tolerance for dry material.)

Oh, one more thing--
I was just told that they came from the Tarnów area of Poland. If I'm correct, that particular area was under Autria-Hungarian rule at the time?

If anyone has any interesting cultural/historical facts about that area, I'd love to hear them.

Thanks.
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Joined: Oct 10, 09 ♀ 		 Oct 18, 09, 18:26    #36
My grandmother always insisted her side of the family was from Austria-Hungary, last name, in usa, was spelled Jarnot.
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Joined: Jul 27, 08 ♂ 		 Nov 5, 09, 19:45    #37
cheehaw:
and you may not understand but anyone who had a parent or relative who worked in the steel mills a couple decades knows about emphysema

And emphysema was a Jewish invention? I thought we just created the bubonic plague.
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Joined: Apr 6, 09  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Nov 5, 09, 20:43    #38
literaturecat:
Can anyone recommend a good book on Polish history? I picked up some ancient tome from my local library but it was pretty dull and unreadable.

I haven't read any Norman Davies's books but I think it is the best thing you can go for for learning about Polish history - God's playground is the most thorough thind I presume
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Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂ 		Edited by: MareGaea  Nov 5, 09, 20:44    #39
yehudi:
And emphysema was a Jewish invention?

But of course, yehudi, didn't you know that? Silly you :)

gumishu:
Norman Davies

I'd recommend "Rising 1944" about the Warsaw rising - very well written.

>^..^<

M-G (everything evil in this world, after all, comes from the Jews, right?)
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Joined: Apr 27, 07  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		 Nov 5, 09, 20:58    #40
What Was Happening in Poland around 1905?

Polish people were going to Church, drinking and f*****g, just like they do now...However, there were no CDs or mp3s to listen to when they f****d.
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Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Nov 5, 09, 22:00    #41
joepilsudski:
Polish people were going to Church, drinking and f*****g, just like they do now...However, there were no CDs or mp3s to listen to when they f****d.

But they did get to engage in the traditional Polish pogroms instead and I'm sure you for one would happily give up CDs and mp3s in order to take part in regular pogroms.
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Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂ 		Edited by: 1jola  Nov 6, 09, 10:41    #42
yehudi:
And emphysema was a Jewish invention? I thought we just created the bubonic plague.

Not only emphysema. I read in a scientific journal that the migrane headache was invented by a Jewish wife from Brooklyn.
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Joined: May 17, 07 ♂ 		 Nov 6, 09, 11:40    #43
joepilsudski:
Polish people were going to Church, drinking and f*****g,

They must heave been also pissing.
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Joined: Jul 10, 09 ♀ 		 Nov 6, 09, 19:47    #44
I traditionally carry out a pogrom every few weeks but recently I've been neglecting this tradition due to headache, no doubt brought upon the world by those evil Jews.
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Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂ 		 Nov 6, 09, 19:52    #45
If it's not a migrane, you have no right to blame the Jews.
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Harry:
But they did get to engage in the traditional Polish pogroms instead and I'm sure you for one would happily give up CDs and mp3s in order to take part in regular pogroms.

Oh sure Harry...Can I pogrom you online, a 'virtual pogrom'?..Just call me 'Einzatzgruppen Joe' or 'Joe Cheka'...In fact, I just burnt down a synagogue in Philadelphia today!...Tomorrow I am going to terrorize a Haddasah.

NiceJewishLadies

Joe's next target...
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Joined: Feb 14, 09  Gold Member MEMBER ♀ 		 Nov 7, 09, 05:04    #47
literaturecat:
What Was Happening in Poland around 1905?

a few of the current PF posters were born...



;)
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Joined: Jan 7, 10 ♀ 		 Jan 12, 10, 21:44    #48
Piorun:
Well, on my travels through US I met a lot of people. One of them claimed to be Irish, when I asked how you can be so sure. The answer was because we cook Irish food in my household. Now if you base your ethnicity on the food you eat then sometimes I must be Chinese. That’s Americans for you.

Isn't that the truth! Coming from an american...or mexican maybe, cause I sure eat a lot of Enchiladas. If my dad drank a lot it was because he was polish, if he had a bad drunk it was the Native american and if he got into a fight with my uncle over Cowboys vs Redskins well then, he was american. Sometimes it is an almost '' as needed '' basis. :)
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Joined: Apr 28, 09 ♂ 		 Jan 12, 10, 21:57    #49
joepilsudski:
Joe's next target...

Damn.. I hope you have some diabetic candy ready.

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