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 Dec 20, 11, 15:22    #91
sascha:
you are really sick man.

And yet another insult from you.

sascha:
.i really feel sorry for you, but after all, your just from uk.

Nice touch: first complain about racism and then post racist content. Lucky that this is already in off-topic.

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Edited by: blackadder  Dec 20, 11, 15:30    #92
sascha:
early croatian flag

croatian flag

astonishing what similarity. as we know by the support of the nazi germany the ustasha were the biggest slaughters in ww2 and built a slaughtering camp called jasenovac. a bloody genocide on more than 700.000 people.

blacky, does it make you proud to see you flag again, small ustasha???



The origin of the design has often been purported as being medieval. Historic tradition states it to be the arms of Stephen Dr¾islav in the 10th century...1000 years old Croatian chechboard,nothing Nazi here.
Phrase ''Za dom spremni'' that Ustashe did use,was in fact old medieval Croatian warcry that every Croat soldier say-For Homeland-Ready!(to die)
That's in heart of every Croat soldier,so we will continue to talk like that,no matter of did Ustashi used it or not.
I said we're not proud of that part of our history,but again not all Croatia followed Nazis,we started resistance first in Europe with Tito-CROAT.

Oh yeaah,I'm not so small as you think kleiner,I could kick your ass anytime
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 Dec 20, 11, 19:00    #93
blackadder:
,but again not all Croatia followed Nazis,we started resistance first in Europe with Tito-CROAT.

you were even too lazy or still in the fascho mindset that you use still the ustasha/fascho flag.
blacky, it was some kind of advent present from me to you. you like it? i guess you do, still this ustasha runs in your family...

frohes weihnachtsfest. :)

@harry

maybe this time you managed somehow to stay calm, without any rants which are the usual tool in your comments, but pls do me the favor and search for your 'traditional rant' towards serbs.

here is your personal statistic

Search - serb scum

pls dont play now the 'good guy'. thats like you want to make us believe in santa. :)
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 Dec 20, 11, 19:11    #94
sascha:
frohes weihnachtsfest. :)


I don't understand you so I'll pass.Look for your history ''German00
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Edited by: sascha  Dec 20, 11, 19:14    #95
blackadder:
I don't understand you so I'll pass.

you should start learning german. it'll be soon official language in eu, where cro is heading to.
you were always santa's little helpers. ;)
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 Dec 20, 11, 19:33    #96
blackadder:
Coming from Russian/Serb mobster it sounds like silence.

you forgot to call me gdr german. ;)

mods, just stating the obvious. is that comment above o.k.?
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 Dec 20, 11, 20:25    #97
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isthatu2:
Rubbish, "they" just went there and bought the slaves that one tribe had taken from another,as they had done for centuries and as they continue to do to this day.

Sorry but while true, that's only part of the story. You might have forgotten that the transatlantic slave trade went hand in hand with the colonization of Africa, the portuguese for example went in there at once and started conquering and conducting slave raids which were not peaceful. They would conquer islands and tribes and enslave the conquered. Also the slavery that existed before the transatlantic slave trade was more like indentured servitude, since many slaves were paid and could buy their own freedom and assimilate in the society or return home, unlike the trade to the americas where slaves would never return home and were shipped en masse like cattle to societies where there was little chance of them ever becoming free.
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 Dec 20, 11, 22:31    #98
I never said it was a good thing, I was just pointing out that it wasnt so Black and White,so to speak ;)
You know who the Black slave's tended to learn English from in the early days? Scottish indentured slaves serving 10 years in a country where your life expectency was less than 3 years.......
PolishBread-OK  Dec 21, 11, 00:08    #99
The Holocaust is pretty much like the Indian Statue called Manjushri which has between 4 to 7 heads.
It was based on myth, rumour, jealousy, hidden motives like robbery and plunder, property theft and misguided religious beliefs.

If we can agree that Jesus did not exist, that God does not exist, and the Catholic Church peddled a lot of untruths, riddles and a great deal of wishful, inaccurate thinking then we are getting close to solving the ancient historical reasons of why it occurred. We then need to jump forward a 1000 years up to 1880 with the assassination of the TSAR, then jump to 1918 when WW1 finished with the defeat of Germany, then jump to 1933 when H The Madman was elected in Germany.

Who was H, first he was a tramp, a doss house boarder, a man who carried suitcases for passenger tips in the main Vienna railway station, who wanted to be an architect, who drew cards which he tried selling to Jews - who refused to buy them so made [for them] an racist enemy. He was a German motor bike dispatch rider who delivered messages in the WW1 trenches. He was laughed at, and at night liked to watch homosexual German soldiers masturbating each other in tents and in woods. For this reason he was never PROMOTED, his commanding officers thought he was strange and how true that assessment was. He did earn 2 Iron Crosses for his dispatch riding work which is to his credit. He was a liar, a schemer, a dreamer, and a fool, and a killer just like any other killer, He read a great deal, he read about the Rothschilds and how suceesful they were and this 'turned his brains', he conjured up inside his head three slogans: Germany For the Germans, Germany Land for German People, German money goes to German subjects. If he had looked around German WAR Cemetaries its almost certain he ignored Jewish Graves or honoured Jewish / German War dead.

Being paranoid and a pyschopath common-sense was subservient to hate, to myth, to rumour, to kindness, and he was totally lost with Codes of Honour, the Officer Class, or Common Law subjects, suffice to say the end justified the means, and the Germans voted into office a killer, a fare dodger, a thief and an imposter and rogue, and he got away with it until 1944. By 1942 the Germans knew the war was lost, by 1944 he knew the war was lost, and his suicide was always on the cards. A Jew murdered in Auchwitz possessed more common sense and reasonableness than him, except he had a gun, and the Jewish POW did not. I call him H to show my disgust at the mention of his name. He killed maybe 15 million people all of whom were better than him, and more valuable. He also murdered maybe 2-3 million children or teenagers for which none of us should ever forgive him for.
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Edited by: Barney  Dec 21, 11, 01:41    #100
sascha:
you really can differentiate. hahahaha...another superficial dude with no clue.

Thats a terrible thing to say I remember reading Ed Vulliamy's reports I was in Holland at the time and coincidentally also in 95. I also remember reading the court reports who's superficial?
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Edited by: rozumiemnic  Dec 21, 11, 01:54    #101
PolishBread-OK:
Who was H, first he was a tramp,

PolishBread-OK:
He read a great deal, he read about the Rothschilds and how suceesful they were and this 'turned his brains', he conjured up inside his head three slogans:

interestingly H's grandmother was a servant in the Rothschild household, but became pregnant (by whom one wonders) and left their employ.....
As PB points out he was a loser, a 'nobody', a little man, although I do believe he had the skill of mass hypnotism, I cannot believe he could have come to power without some extremely influential backing, whatever nonsense is peddled in our history books. This led to the foundation of the state of Israel. (a Rothschild scheme)
to go back to the OP's question, who can say what was 'worse'?

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/hitler_was_a_rothschild .htm
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 Dec 21, 11, 20:37    #102
Barney:
Thats a terrible thing to say

no, it is not. you comment on one long post explaining and describing with a single question. how would you judge that if that happens to you?
my instinct would tell me that that person has no interest or is just playing/superficial. thats what i thought.

you know and i know that the hague is not a criminal but a political court and whatever kind of reports are shown or read there, hmm how to say, got some nice 'haircut'....

i bought a book written by independent journalists working in the 90's during the war here on the balkans. they show how their report got manipulated or falsified to promote a certain view/opinion on the situation. if you think that those journalists can write anything, you are probably right. but what do they have from it by saying that many reports are false? they endanger themselves and have absolutely no financial benefit from that.
even some journalists who worked for the un agreed later, that their reports were falsified.

it is a long and problematic story. if you want to talk about it, read or watch as much as you can from ALL sides and then come with your point. much better, travel there and talk to the people.
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 Dec 21, 11, 21:01    #103
sascha:
even some journalists who worked for the un agreed later, that their reports were falsified.

You claim that journalists worked for the UN, reporting on the Balkan wars? Really. And where were their articles published? In the UN's daily newspaper? On the UN's cable news network?

You are either showing your utter ignorance of what happened during the Balkan wars or you are simply lying. Or perhaps you are lying and by doing so displaying your utter ignorance of what happened during the Balkan wars.
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 Dec 21, 11, 21:07    #104
I know that image is not fake, Natasa knows its not fake, there was no altering of the ITN report or Ed Vulliamy's report either. Whatever you think of the Balkan conflict ask yourself why such a place was needed.
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 Dec 22, 11, 00:48    #105
Harry:
You claim that journalists worked for the UN, reporting on the Balkan wars? Really. And where were their articles published? In the UN's daily newspaper? On the UN's cable news network?

there were official reporters for the un on the balkans during the war. yes. btw, your arrogant tone is completely out of place. for someone like you who is thinking of himself 'knowing it all about the balkans and theres no need for you to read/watch/listen more, you should better be quiet.

Harry:
You are either showing your utter ignorance of what happened during the Balkan wars or you are simply lying. Or perhaps you are lying and by doing so displaying your utter ignorance of what happened during the Balkan wars.

those words out of YOUR mouth sound like a joke. a louzy one. lol

Barney:
I know that image is not fake, Natasa knows its not fake, there was no altering of the ITN report or Ed Vulliamy's report either. Whatever you think of the Balkan conflict ask yourself why such a place was needed.

yes, and now officially you believe in santa. lol
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 Dec 22, 11, 01:22    #106
" there were official reporters for the un on the balkans during the war. yes."

Name three, it'll be no problem at all for me to get them checked out, have plenty of press contacts and UN people to get in touch with.

BTW which UN body were they supposedly with? Let's get your lie set out now.
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Edited by: sascha  Dec 22, 11, 01:29    #107
Harry:
" there were official reporters for the un on the balkans during the war. yes."
Name three, it'll be no problem at all for me to get them checked out, have plenty of press contacts and UN people to get in touch with.
BTW which UN body were they supposedly with? Let's get your lie set out now.


if you have a problem with paranoia, get it treated by a professional and dont take it out on me.

i dont have anything to proove to you like vice versa.

dont call me a liar you fascho.
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 Dec 22, 11, 01:43    #108
sascha:
dont call me a liar you fascho.


If you can't provide Harry with basic information about these journalists, then one can only suppose that you are indeed lying.
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 Dec 22, 11, 10:12    #109
sascha:
yes, and now officially you believe in santa. lol

Believing in Santa is a harmless pleasant thing, denying that crimes happened because they are inconvenient to you in your faraway home isn't.
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 Dec 22, 11, 11:34    #110
sascha:
i dont have anything to proove to you like vice versa.

dont call me a liar you fascho.

You are claiming that there were "some journalists who worked for the un" in the Balkans. You further claim that some of such "agreed later, that their reports were falsified." Please name three of such journalists so that they can be verified as having worked for the UN and later made such statements.

sascha:
if you have a problem with paranoia, get it treated by a professional and dont take it out on me.

dont call me a liar you fascho.

Your repeated person insults very much suggest that you were not displaying utter ignorance but were in fact simply lying, and that you know you have been caught lying and wish to move the discussion away from your lies.

I will of course be more than happy to apologise for calling you a liar just as soon as those three journalists have been named by you and verified by me as having done as you claimed.
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 Dec 22, 11, 12:13    #111
Harry:
And yet another insult from you.

you should be happy you are thriving on insults you simply wallow in them like a pig in the mud!

Why this thread (silly by the way) is taken off-topic?

Is there any threads about the Yugoslavian Civil War - as it should be phrased. There wasn't participants amongst Serb, Bosnian, Croats that hadn't his hands dirty - why pick only on Serbs ?
As for Kosovo - all that talk about genocidal Serbs is BS!
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 Dec 22, 11, 13:03    #112
rozumiemnic:
interestingly H's grandmother was a servant in the Rothschild household

She worked as a maid but not for that family.
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 Dec 22, 11, 20:11    #113
sascha:
i bought a book written by independent journalists working in the 90's during the war here on the balkans.

Since when is Germany on the Balkans, Sascha? :)
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 Dec 23, 11, 12:27    #114
Ironside:
There wasn't participants amongst Serb, Bosnian, Croats that hadn't his hands dirty - why pick only on Serbs ?
As for Kosovo - all that talk about genocidal Serbs is BS!

exactly. i only fear that your resonable attitude is not sth many will agree with.

TheOther:
Since when is Germany on the Balkans, Sascha? :)

i was figurative speaking. anyhow nice try.;)

anything else to contribute to the discussion?
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 Dec 23, 11, 13:37    #115
Ironside:
There wasn't participants amongst Serb, Bosnian, Croats that hadn't his hands dirty - why pick only on Serbs ?

You are perfectly correct: all sides got their hands dirty. However, only one side then washed their dirty hands in blood.
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Edited by: sascha  Dec 23, 11, 20:58    #116
Harry:
However, only one side then washed their dirty hands in blood.

however, mr 'no clue about balkan' has spoken.


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