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SokratesThreads: 19
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Joined: Jan 19, 09 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Jan 2, 11, 16:31    #31
Bratwurst Boy:
Why would you need such a big country? You are a people of...what...35 millions?

38.5 thank you and its getting crowded!
Ashleys mind:
Ok, so can we just establish exactly what size and which borders Poland should have now?

Continental Europe.
Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34
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Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂ 		 Jan 2, 11, 18:14    #32
Bratwurst Boy:
Why would you need such a big country? You are a people of...what...35 millions?


You know how many Poles there are abroad? What if Poland started to be successful and was starting an "campaign" to get their former "Poles" back?
Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11
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Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂ 		 Jan 2, 11, 18:26    #33
Mr Grunwald:
What if Poland started to be successful and was starting an "campaign" to get their former "Poles" back?


Well...Germany is quite successfull...but not many of the 80 millions in other countries come back...:(
Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34
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Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂ 		 Jan 2, 11, 18:35    #34
Bratwurst Boy:
but not many of the 80 millions in other countries come back...:(

Tsk tsk, you should refresh your propaganda and create a propaganda minister. I know many will take it rather "bad" to themselves. But you need manpower
especially with the growth rate
Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11
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Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂ 		 Jan 2, 11, 18:36    #35
Mr Grunwald:
Tsk tsk, you should refresh your propaganda and create a propaganda minister.


Nah...we will just woo the Poles instead! :)
Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34
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Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂ 		 Jan 2, 11, 18:51    #36
Bratwurst Boy:
Nah...we will just woo the Poles instead! :)

Always the easy choice ehh? ;p
Ashleys mindThreads: 7
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Joined: Nov 2, 10 ♀ 		 Jan 3, 11, 03:29    #37
Sokrates:
Continental Europe.


Greedy! ;)
ConstantineKThreads: 35
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Joined: May 10, 07 ♂ 		 Jan 6, 11, 00:15    #38
Polonius3:
http://polmap.republika.pl/polska1.htm



Looks like malignant tumor treated by X-rays.
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Joined: Feb 1, 10  Pictures: 1 ♂ 		Edited by: grubas  Jan 6, 11, 00:50    #39
Bratwurst Boy:
Why would you need such a big country?

Because we need more Lebensraum.Should not be hard to understand to a German.
ConstantineKThreads: 35
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Joined: May 10, 07 ♂ 		 Jan 10, 11, 12:58    #40
Torq:
We would like to hear how the population of Denmark, Italy, Portugal or Belgium


Russia?
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ConstantineK:
Russia?


Poland's losses in WW2, percentage-wise, were higher than Russian losses.

*but of course, compared to the countries I mentioned, Russia suffered enormous losses*
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Joined: May 10, 07 ♂ 		 Jan 10, 11, 15:19    #42
Torq:
Poland's losses in WW2, percentage-wise, were higher than Russian losses.


You might have ment Israil, for mostly these victims, from Polish side, had been of jewish origin.
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ConstantineK:

You might have ment Israil, for mostly these victims, from Polish side, had been of jewish origin.


1. Poland in 1939 had 35 million people.
2. 3 million Jews were murdered in Poland during WW2.
3. Poland in 1945 had 23 million people.

Now, you're a smart boy - do the maths and stop talking nonsense.
AdamKadmonThreads: 38
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Joined: Apr 23, 10 ♂ 		 Jan 10, 11, 15:27    #44
ConstantineK:
You might have ment Israil, for mostly these victims, from Polish side, had been of jewish origin.


They were Polish citizens of Jewish origin, and some day, Jewish citizens of Israel will be Polish citizens once again. We count dead as Polish, why shouldn't we count alive as such, aren't people worth more alive than dead?
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AdamKadmon:

They were Polish citizens of Jewish origin, and some day, Jewish citizens of Israel will be Polish citizens once again. We count dead as Polish, why shouldn't we count alive as such, aren't people worth more alive than dead?


Very good point!

They were all citizens of Poland, no matter their religion, but even if we count followers
of Judaism separately, it still doesn't make Constantine's statement...

ConstantineK:
mostly these victims, from Polish side, had been of jewish origin


...true. Polish losses among non-Jewish population were equally high.
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AdamKadmon:
They were Polish citizens of Jewish origin, and some day, Jewish citizens of Israel will be Polish citizens once again. We count dead as Polish, why shouldn't we count alive as such, aren't people worth more alive than dead?


Ah, that is why all these generous Poles haunted remaining Jews after WWII ! I see, well done.
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ConstantineK:
Ah, that is why all these generous Poles haunted remaining Jews after WWII ! I see, well done.


Your knowledge of Poland's history is enormous, but a bit distorted. "These generous Poles" were actually Soviet agents, we do not have anything in common with them. Aren't you now ashamed of Russia's Soviet past?
milkyThreads: 10
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Joined: Oct 26, 09 ♀ 		 Jan 10, 11, 16:05    #48
So Poland's "population", is now seriously shrinking due to a cowboy government and the phony free-market..
southernThreads: 116
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Joined: May 17, 07 ♂ 		 Jan 10, 11, 16:14    #49
In all former communist lands the population is shrinking.In Poland's case immigration is the main reason.
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AdamKadmon:
Your knowledge of Poland's history is enormous, but a bit distorted. "These generous Poles" were actually Soviet agents, we do not have anything in common with them. Aren't you now ashamed of Russia's Soviet past?


There is no doubt that all wrongs were done actually by agents! Simply holy Poles are...holy. They are so holy that having pooped they produce only sweet butterflies.
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Joined: Oct 26, 09 ♀ 		 Jan 10, 11, 16:19    #51
southern:
In Poland's case immigration is the main reason.

and when Germany opens border,will it be flooded with Poles looking for an easier more democratic society.
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milky:
when Germany opens border


Last time I checked the German border was open. Unless you meant the job-market.
In that case, no, I don't think Germany will be "flooded" with Poles. Most of those who
wanted to go abroad, already did since 2004 (and many of them came back already.)
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Joined: May 17, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: southern  Jan 10, 11, 16:22    #53
Current socioeconomic trends lead to a severe decrease in slavic populations.It can be worrying.
When Germany opens the gates Poles will immigrate in mass since german economy is the only one with dynamism in Europe now.
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ConstantineK:
imply holy Poles are...holy.


Odor sanctitatis
milkyThreads: 10
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Joined: Oct 26, 09 ♀ 		 Jan 10, 11, 16:31    #55
Torq:
Most of those who
wanted to go abroad, already did since 2004 (and many of them came back already.)

Well children and students would hardly go, back in 2004. I reckon Germany will be flooded as the Polish government are happy to sit on their hand,while the population argue about moral issues.
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milky:
I reckon Germany will be flooded


So, how many people from Poland, do you reckon will go to Germany this year?
What will this "flood" look like in numbers? Make a guess and we'll soon see how
precise your prediction turns out.
southernThreads: 116
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Joined: May 17, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: southern  Jan 10, 11, 17:40    #57
2011 will be the start of the Pol-Turk era as the polish girls will discover the 3 million sex starved Turks in Germany.

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