Were Nobles during Commonwealth constituting the Nation of Poland?

Nobles at the time were believing themselves distinctly different from other social group in the Commonwealth.

Where they a separate race as they claimed?

Where they constituting a body of citizens, not unlike those of the Romans of old?

Maybe only nobles were Poles and the others were only Mazurian, Ruthenian,Zmudzian and the like?

At what time Iron?

They never claimed that.

Based on what?

Nobles at the time were believing themselves distinctly different from other social group in the Commonwealth.
Where they a separate race as they claimed?

Maybe only nobles were Poles

From the picture, Ironside, they rather look like a sexually deviated, not a national group.

What made them better, was it that they accumulated wealth and then weaved a story about their origins being somehow more divine, or in this case, a separate race?

The Germania. The tome placed the Sarmatians to the East of the Germans in the place Poland now occupied and so the Szlachta inferred that the Sarmatians must be their ancestors. There may actually be some truth to this genealogical claim because there are words in Polish that linguists claim are of Iranian, rather than Slavic origin, such as the name of the pagan diety Swarog as well as the monotheistic Bogu

That is an interesting question. I've always wondered how the nobles of various societies became "nobles." What made them better, was it that they accumulated wealth and then weaved a story about their origins being somehow more divine, or in this case, a separate race?

I read the linked article above and while it was only a tiny part of the article, it seemed to indicate that modern historians doubt that the nobility descended from Samatians:

I wonder if there are any genetic studies done on surviving Polish nobility to investigate the question from that aspect.

(So much gridlock with the veto and the meddling into Polish elections by other countries).

I'm sure you prefer the national ukrainian dress of the time

Where they a separate race as they claimed?

Where they constituting a body of citizens, not unlike those of the Romans of old?

Maybe only nobles were Poles and the others were only Mazurian, Ruthenian,Zmudzian and the like?

I'm sure you prefer the national ukrainian dress of the time:

In case of Commonwealth it was their rights, which made them standing out not only from other social group but from other nobles in Europe and the world. They had a rights not unlike Roman citizens of old, no matter poor or rich, every noble enjoyed the same rights. Freedom breeds a different kind of men.

I would put the blame on the foreign origin of elected monarchs. They had no understanding of Polish constitution nor the will to work according to the guidelines of the law in Poland,

;) It is more of the Medieval Europe - quite a fancy dressing ;) Ukies looked more like this at that time:

World is packed with women, and friend told me the Ukrainian girls were very nice ;)

Also, Sokrates' claim on low culture in Ukraine today.

I insist that Moderator removes bad talking of Nathan on Ukrainian girls.
This is offensive, racial, unfounded.

their women are treated like garbage and are poor to boot, most foreigners will have an easy going with most ukrainian girls since they'll see it as a chance to bail out of Ukraine.

Are trying to tell me Sokrates that I should abuse poor Ukrainian girls? Well, well, well...

I believe the Ukrainian girls are human in the first place and women as well. A humanist would have never said anything wrong on other human beings. A gentleman would have never said anything wrong about women.

On paper yes. But if a lets say Mr Potocki wanted the tiny little village of the poor Mr Piotrowski he took it by sword, and then bribed his way out of the court.

That's the reason why the Szlachta wanted foreign monarchs. Why have strong king with power that will make you his puppet while you can have a weak king that will be your puppet?

Ukies

I'm neither a humanist nor a gentlemen then :)

against

polish gun

Still impressive. Is it XVII century weapon? I bet it could clear any offensive.