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WWII - Wolf's Lair. Valkyria operation

daniThreads: 5 Posts: 10 Joined: Feb 9, 10 Gender: Female	Feb 9, 10, 13:43 / #1
Hi, I found some info, that operation Valkyria (Hittler assasination atempt) had place in Poland in bunker complex called wolf's lair) http://anglopolish.com/index.php/component/content/article/10-place-to -visit/22-wolfs-lair-today Does anyone have more informations and pics from this complex? I wonder how big it was. Why Hitler built it and why he spend there so many time during war? Was he commanding his troops from there or only on "holiday"?

convexThreads: 27 Posts: 3,322 Joined: Nov 25, 09 Gender: Male GOLD MEMBER	Feb 9, 10, 13:48 / #2
http://www.wolfsschanze.pl wikipedia also has a good overview

SeanBMThreads: 35 Posts: 6,250 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Feb 9, 10, 13:59 / #3
WWII Hitler Assasination Attempt 1 of 5 Reconstruction of July 20, 1944 Operation Valkyrie

daniThreads: 5 Posts: 10 Joined: Feb 9, 10 Gender: Female	Feb 9, 10, 15:05 / #4
thank You very much.

SeanBMThreads: 35 Posts: 6,250 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Feb 9, 10, 15:15 / #5
Dani, you should keep adding to this thread. It is a very interesting historical event. I have a hypothetical question about this. If Hitler had been assassinated, would it have changed much? would he have become a martyr?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 5 Posts: 10,558 Joined: Apr 2, 07 Gender: Male	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Feb 9, 10, 15:50 / #6
SeanBM: If Hitler had been assassinated, would it have changed much? would he have become a martyr? I recently read an interesting interview with one relative of the plotters. He was on the Eastern front as the news came over the radio to the troops...he remembers that practically ALL his comrades were utterly dumbstruck and speechless. Feeling only absolute disgust...how could someone do to this to the leader....emotions run high. He later learned that his uncle got hanged for it.

SeanBMThreads: 35 Posts: 6,250 Joined: Mar 10, 08 Gender: Male	Edited by: SeanBM Feb 9, 10, 16:36 / #7
Bratwurst Boy: emotions run high. I didn't fully understand what you meant. Did he think that they would have fallen apart, ending the third Reich or been so angry and seen Hitler as a martyr and continued on? (If Hitler was assassinated) I know it is impossible to say but surely there has been investigations in to the hypothetical situation. And more importantly the people who attempted the Valkyria operation must have thought it would bring big change, what were their expectations? I have to say I was forced to that Tom Cruise film Valkyrie and I wish I hadn't, for no other reason than I thoroughly dislike Tom Cruise as an actor.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 5 Posts: 10,558 Joined: Apr 2, 07 Gender: Male	Feb 9, 10, 16:47 / #8
SeanBM: I didn't fully understand what you meant. First anger, horror, incomprehension...then disgust and hate for the traitors who were seen as back stabbers as so many german soldiers fighted and died on the fronts. That seems to be the prevalent emotion as he saw it....I think we can safely conclude from that Hitler would had come out as a martyr in their minds.

daniThreads: 5 Posts: 10 Joined: Feb 9, 10 Gender: Female	Feb 10, 10, 10:13 / #9
Feeling only absolute disgust... I haven't ever think in this way before. You are right. For germans it was extremly hard to kill Hitler.

Grzegorz_Threads: 67 Posts: 5,461 Joined: Nov 16, 06 Gender: Male	Feb 10, 10, 10:37 / #10
dani: had place in Poland East Prussia then... SeanBM: If Hitler had been assassinated, would it have changed much? The war would probably last longer...

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