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Holocaust Forgotten - Six Million Polish Citizens Were Killed


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MaxxxPayneg [Guest]
  Feb 16, 07, 02:32  #31

Quoting: Babylon
(I prefer Russians, Ukrainians, Dutch and other nations).



If I am not mistaken there was Ukrainian SS units (many Ukrainians thought that Hitler was better for Ukraine than Stalin) and even Russian units fighting for Germany: Lienz cossacks, Vlasov's Army (same reasons as the Ukrainians). It was not so much about being pro-nazi but being anti-Soviet. Polish were one of the few nations that were fighting against both evils. That makes them as one of the most heroic nations of WW II in my book.

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guest1 [Guest]
  Feb 17, 07, 11:07  #32

The holocaust? Oh the 7 million ukrainians stalin and his yidd friends killed? Wait that part of history dosent matter! They were just a bunch of white slavs right? so who cares?

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Styles
  Feb 17, 07, 23:44  #33

Hmm American history books need to dish out all the information, I was taught (in school) that jews were being killed etc, but never heard one time anything about poles/ anyone else being killed. This really makes me angry, I don't feel its right we teach our youth about one people, then ignore the rest. Even if it's the jews were the majority its just wrong.


:/ Also hate being taught all europeans owned slaves and were greedy etc. That just isn't the fact, I even had a teacher tell me that they were greedy no good people, but most came here for religious purposes and never owned slaves.

Sorry for getting off subject, i'm just ranting about pasted experiences... *if anything is mispelled i'm sorry it's late and I don't feel like checking :P*

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Maxxx Payne
  Feb 18, 07, 09:33  #34

Quoting: Styles
:/ Also hate being taught all europeans owned slaves and were greedy etc. That just isn't the fact, I even had a teacher tell me that they were greedy no good people, but most came here for religious purposes and never owned slaves.



Yeah, how many Polish (or Finnish for that matter) slave owners there were in America ? Like zero ?

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Bojownik
  Feb 18, 07, 09:40  #35

Quoting: Styles
Hmm American history books need to dish out all the information, I was taught (in school) that jews were being killed etc, but never heard one time anything about poles/ anyone else being killed. This really makes me angry, I don't feel its right we teach our youth about one people, then ignore the rest. Even if it's the jews were the majority its just wrong.


:/ Also hate being taught all europeans owned slaves and were greedy etc. That just isn't the fact, I even had a teacher tell me that they were greedy no good people, but most came here for religious purposes and never owned slaves.

Sorry for getting off subject, i'm just ranting about pasted experiences... *if anything is mispelled i'm sorry it's late and I don't feel like checking :P*


I agree everybody has the jewish holocaust taught but anyone else dosent matter , the 2 million armenians the turks killed or the 7 million ukrainians. So in reality rather then one jew dieing for our sins its 6 million...

You are right the teachers never mentioned anything about the jewish slave trade as well. The world is flushed with anti white nonsense.

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LoneStranger
  Feb 18, 07, 09:42  #36

Quoting: Bojownik
Bojownik

I guessed right about you. Whats the temperature in Germany ?

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Bojownik
Edited by: Bojownik  Feb 18, 07, 11:40  #37

Quoting: LoneStranger
I guessed right about you. Whats the temperature in Germany ?



Thanx I couldent recall my login!

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Patrycja19
  Feb 18, 07, 13:46  #38

Quoting: LoneStranger
I guessed right about you. Whats the temperature in Germany ?


lol my dear brother, ha, Me and you are so much on the same page arent we

we must have been seperated at birth! lol

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Babylon
  Feb 18, 07, 13:51  #39

Nobody knows in the world about at least "real Poles" 3 millions died and 6 millions of Polish citizens, 7 millions Ukrainians, 25 millions of Russians and so on.

I watched once a program on TV they said: In WWII died 60 millions peoples and I ask myself:

"LOL, and they always talking only about 6 milions of them? What about the others?"

I really like Jews or even love them and don't understand this anti-judaism but I can't imagine what happened to 54 milions of peoples that World is not mentioning?

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josecitomadera [Guest]
  Feb 18, 07, 18:36  #40

Quoting: LoneStranger
help - but the masses were in favour of Hitler. We know it - it is just so obvious. Those who helped him to rise, and those who supported him were many. Still he is supported by many, sadly also in Poland.


Please explain this. How is Hitler still supported in Poland? The only respect I have for Hitler is that he killed himself.

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wanabee [Guest]
  Feb 27, 07, 15:36  #41

Quoting: Babylon
Half of These Holocaust Victims Were Non-Jews.


I often wondered why everyone gets to hear over and over about all the Jews that died under Hitler but never a word of what happened to an equal number of Polish people.

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FISZ
  Feb 27, 07, 15:45  #42

Quoting: wanabee
I often wondered why everyone gets to hear over and over about all the Jews that died under Hitler but never a word of what happened to an equal number of Polish people.

Only in America

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ArturSzastak
  Feb 27, 07, 16:22  #43

Quoting: Styles
Hmm American history books need to dish out all the information, I was taught (in school) that jews were being killed etc, but never heard one time anything about poles/ anyone else being killed. This really makes me angry, I don't feel its right we teach our youth about one people, then ignore the rest. Even if it's the jews were the majority its just wrong.



When you look at it proportionately at pre-war populations, and compare each contries population after the war, Poland suffered the most (as a country). We lost a fourth of our population. Where as Russia and Germany were next.


(countries of course, not groups of people. Jews were probably hit hardest, some facts are still being debated though, only reason i said "probably")

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bookratt [Guest]
  Feb 27, 07, 19:19  #44

I was taught in sixth grade here in the USA, that both Jews and non Jews (gypsies, dissidents, teachers, Greeks, mentally and physically disabled people, Poles, Catholics, etc) were killed both in work camps and in executions by the Germans and their Allies in Europe---in Italy, France, Ukraine, Poland, etc---all had camps.

I don't think they told us a final number killed in the camps, but in college I learned it was about 11 million.

It was a six week long history unit. Very interesting and humbling class. This took place near Columbus, Ohio in 1975 in a suburb called Gahanna. Not a Jewish area, either.

They showed us Night and Fog, a dubbed French film about the camps, we read Anne Frank's diaries, we read biographies of Hitler, Mussolini and other European leaders, and read about the French collaborationist government (the Vichy regime), the Fascists in Italy, the airmen in Britain, the Polish Resistance, pro-nazi groups in America, such as the Mothers Movement and associated groups, we learned about Lindbergh's pro-German sentiments, etc.

Then, I don't think I ever studied anything specifically about the Holocaust again, through my graduation in 12th grade.

But then again, when we studied Japan in 7th grade, I do not remember ever talking about Bataan or Cabantuan, or The Rape of Nanking, and yet, my own Grandfather fought for the US in the Phillipines and his brother fought in Burma.

I was not taught about Poles who were conscripted by Russia or Germany when I was younger. I learned that in college.

I didn't know about the Ukrainian guards in the camps, at all, until I read about that here and went and looked it up.

Or the Aryanization of businesses in countries other than in Germany and Holland, until I saw The Shop on Main Street, a Czech film in black and white, on cable TV last year.

So, I think that even here, where information is always readily available and it has always been an open society, much is left unsaid unless you ask or dig deeper.

Certain school districts, such as those in Skokie, Illinois, and Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, NY, do a much better job of discussing that chapter of WWII history, as they have high concentrations of Jewish immigrants there. And many residents are camp survivors who come to the schools to tell their stories.

I think that all schools in the US should do more.

But, it would make sense that in Poland, Polish history and European history is taught more often and in more depth, than say, Italian history or Australian history.

So I'd guess that in Poland, they teach about this more and therefore their children know more about it.

I hope so, anyway.

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qwerty [Guest]
  Apr 1, 07, 10:19  #45

Remembering all victims is one thing, but all to often when this subject is discussed it seems to revolve around the jews.
Surely ww2 was, for want of a better word, the main event, and the other thing was a part of the overall war.
The war was about many things, and not only one people.
The other victims, as well as the other nations who fought have all but been forgotten.

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