Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION)

what you consider logic is really scary

but youre only young, arent you?

So are you making the argument that a woman who cannot have a child of her own, should not be allowed to adopt a child, just because she cannot breastfeed? Keep in mind, many mother's who give birth don't breast feed or are unable to for various reasons.....are you saying a child is only truly loved if they have been breast fed? What a crock!!!!

That's an interesting question and observation.....

no you are reading ebtween the lines, i was expalinging the entire system a man and woman exchange things this results in somethign else etc etc.. woman have been gifted with the ability to feed their child this is what i ma saying that men cannot? everyhting needs to be looked at in a whole. there are many woman who cannot breastfeed i acknowldge that.
its easy to look at ings not in perspective and in half, life is more then just 'romping' around for 2 men, becasue if you assess research you will see the dangers of this type of behaviour. its early days now and people are in this all free mood love fore all etc but when it comes down to the crunch whats right and wrong will conintue. anal sex is not feasible.. ic an send soem research if you please.
in terms for women - emotionally they require sexual satisfaction, whic can be achieved with the help fo a mans private parts, dont think about these artiifcial toys.. if you look at sex in details its more then just a 'quickie' the real satisfaction comes with the true love you have fo your partner.. naturally since the creation of this earth there must have been men and women for it to survive, if there were always 2 men n women then the world would never have continued.

There are enough women/men couples in this world, to let some men/men or women/women couples live ;)
Plus, we think that the world is going to be overpopulated within a century, and not enough food for all !! So it's a "chance" there are homosexuals to limit the amount of new borns each year ! LOL

thats justified it - straignht to the point, i ilike it!
well maybe you should visit quebec in canada lovely place,, needs a few extra heads..
actually canada is a very beautiful country well worth a visit, i would like to drive from west to east supposed to be very scenic

exactly what sort of research are you reading...?



early days of what - homosexuality...?

hardly... go and do some proper research

i have journals on another machine will forward it to you sir,
the dangers of anal sex have not been ecamined as they are today, yes peopel have commtied this act, doesnt mean that its right.. what i am saying is that with the advancement we have we can understand the risks of certain behaviours more physical, emotional and social.

If 2 people of the same sex love each other, what could you tell them ? It's love, there is no weird love, so let them live their own way of life ;) I don't care !

i could not agree more, the danger is as humans we someitmes misunderstand what is right and wrong, what would you say if someone said i love my dog and i mean proeprly love like they say i have dreams about it and i want to live my life with my dog only........ you would say i think not' becasue this is unatural, the reason you know it is unatrula becasue firstly no one does it, secondly its hard for the love to sustainas it will be one sided and secondly one elemant of love is to fulfil ones sexual needs and this will be difficult.

now if we look at the relationship between man and woman we see they have different physical features, different mental apporach. they are equal but in soemthings they are different.. the difference is what makes them compatible.... like two magnets N & S atteracts.
now thing of 2 men they ahve smae physicla body many similar emotional traits the love will always be there but incomplete..

to be honest peopel are free to choose what hey want.. but rememebr we will be responibsle for our actions in this world and the hereafter

Homosexuals love each other, it's not one sided love...
I guess you're right about sexual needs, even though there are people that do it... *_* LoL

You are straight, so you can't understand homosexuals maybe, i'm straight too, but i think there are no risk in letting them live their life, and us our own, we can all live together, independantly of what we like or love ;)

I have always thought if you and that person love each other and it doesn't involve anyone else,does it really matter if your gay,straight or lesbian....
What harm can it do?
If the feelings you have for each other is strong enough and genuine,it makes you stronger and you dont care what people think.

Exactly jay uk ;) Thanks

as to opinion pools

there was a question If gay should have the right to marry another gay

and answers
defiantely yes
rather yes
rather no
definately no
I dont know



so in Poland the debate is rather about their status in society, than if it is normal/sick ...

very mixed opinions, right...

Thats ok,your very welcome :)

Really? its abit like the English supposedly dont get on with the scottish but my mum and dad still got marrid and had 3 kids...and one of them was me !!

When my mum and dad found out about me,my mum cried,my dad was pissed off and my brother.....well...every time he came home drunk,he used to come into my room and beat the **** out of me and told me how much he hated me.I was 15 at the time and by this time my parents seperated and my mum had no control over him.
so i moved out.

so yes i have experienced the bad side too.When you dont have your family to be with,it is very tough.Unless you been there,you can never comprehend it.
I suppose i was brought up in a very homophobic family.
Just sharing my experience with you....i dont expect anyone to feel sorry for me. ok!!

Still speak to my sister though.

Wow ! And have you still any link with your mom and dad ?...

sorry to hear it my friend, violence is no solution to any problem,
i understand you have feelings but have you ever thought about contoling them, dont take it the wrong way, imagine the benefits of a family a mother and father and what they can offer to children and society as a whole, i will not say that having feelings for another man is wrong but it seems rather unnatural.
can you imagine if people who are aged 60 start claiming equal rights becasue they want to have sex with children, i know the situations are not so similar but it makes you think how far will we come from the boundaries, how much will we sacrifice in the name of freedom and materialism. please dont be offended... one should think of there life in this world and the real purpose, if life was just to enjoy on a material sense then the world is a bad place - there is so much inequlaity peopel dying of hunger in africa and india, we enjoy life in the west, becasue we do so through material means

I just wanted to show, about what we debate in Poland.


What is more gay parades which were very controversial at the beginning (stoped, baned, contr-manifested), this year were calm and succesful for gay/lesbian society in Poland. What you should notice: there are huge differencies in way of thinking betwen others parts of Poland and it is important as well ....

And you jareck, have you ever though about controlling your feelings about women ?...you don't understand that there are people that love men, as you love women... ;)

i have indeed? bonjour.. the thing is that its innate to have feeligns for women vice verse fro women to have for men.. can i ask why is it then that some lesbian women become rather butch - act like a man.. and many people who call themselves gay act in a rather feminine manner

Bonjour ;) We are an evolved species. At the beginning, men used to hunt and work, while women stayed home taking care of children. Now both men and women work and have the same rights. The time has changed, and people as well. You have to understand that feelings may be different from one person to another. I prefer a gay or a lesbian among my friends, than a serial killer ;P LoL

I have not seen my dad since i was 8 years old but i still see my mum.
She is more accepting of it now but,she asked me is it just a phase im going through? but i told her that it wasnt and it is for real.

Im not bothered what my dad thinks because he used to hit her about when i was a kid.



Its very similar in the UK.
Most people here are very accepting and most are just not bothered,its what you are as a person.
Of course,you do get the type that will dislike you,even though they can see that your ok as a person...as they dont know how to deal with it and thats when you can get trouble.
But i have never been beaten up or anyone trying to start trouble with me if i go to a night club or pub...but i know some that have.

I understand, don't care about your father, you are much better than him ;)

thanks for sharing your experiences with us JayUK. I have lots of friends who have been through similar.. which is why I was making the point that most people would not choose to be gay, given the **** that they often have to deal with.. they just are. As for Jareck, I reckon he is in-line to become the next Jerry Springer.. I did see one once where a woman married a horse.

Thanks Polson thats very nice of you to say so :)




I dont mind sharing my experiences and i appreciate that you and others,like to at least see the other side to the coin.
But i dont think being gay is a problem its the stereotyping and views of ignorance that causes the problem and its just a sexual preference which is so badly tainted especially if you have to deal with it in a deeply religious country....i dont want to remark about religion again,as i have done before on this thread,but it certainly doesnt help the situation.

For example....say it was straight and as my family is homophobic (apart from my sister) i would most probably be saying and believing the same garbage as the other homophobes and jumping on the bandwagon of "I hate gays"

Sometimes i am ashamed of being a christian because of the sheer hatred i can stir about something it doesnt approve of and this topic is one of them.
But i was born into a christian family (Church of England) so really,im ******** to speak.

Hey Horses have feeling too ya know! :D

and very large wedding tackle too :)

Im just going to ignore this its not worth the proccesing power of my brain.
I assume your straight.....you must be to say something like that.
you have not offended.I just find your text abit patronising.