Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION)

Funny,In my experiance those "men" who shout the loudest about how unnatural gayness is and make all the fuss almost always turn out to be gay or bi themselves,something about protesting too much.
sofi, excuse me for saying this but your a top bird :) putting what I posted earlier into far more gracefull posts.
gayness and kiddie touching, good god man,did you bang your head in 1973 or something,where have you been, arnt most convicted (sick scumbag) peadophiles married men who sleep with their wife then abuse their own kids?
This thread is better than re runs of Alf Garnet
k.
ps,as to teaching kids about sex in school,personally I dont want my kids taught anything about it in school as thats a parents responsibility to judge when your child is old enough to need to know or understand,so dont ram gay or straight lifestyles down kids throats,let them just be innocent for a few shor years.

Slavery was a Crime against Humanity.

Not the same thing as going into a classroom and teaching childen about Homosexuality.

Im NOT Against Homosexuality.
I Agree. That a lot of these relationships are based on Love trust and Mutual Consent..
Its your right.. Your Free to choose..

If its introduced into classrooms and childern have no option but to learn about it.
Where is there right to choose..?

Children should be allowed to be Children.
There is enough pressure on them to grow up faster to keep pace with our modern lives.. without adding more to the burden they are expected to carry.

Teach them at home.. 99% of familes have access to the internet.
it is no hard task to show them it is acceptable to be who they are. and who they want to become. In in a loving family. ( Hetro OR Homosexual )
Its a safer More loving environment.

School is not the place for this...

There is indeed too much sexuality of various kinds forced upon children these days.
Let children be children.
But sex education is important, but if schools do it badly, it's worse than them not teaching it at all.

Amen to that

Let adults be adults.

The Playground is the harshest environment known to man..
And i defy anyone to tell me different..

Kids are picked on and bullied for the least lil thing..
Too fat.. Too thin.. Too Pretty.. Too Ugly.. Too Poor.. Too Rich.. Too different.
Wrong colour.. Wrong Clothes..
Childen are the Cruelest people anywhere.
Everyweek there are stories about Suicides Caused by Bullying in the playground.

Are you going to Give the Thugs more stones to throw by making them unsure about there own sexuality or Indivduality..?

Out of a class of 20 you teach about the subject..
If one Child out of 20 realises or decidesthat Homosexuality is who they are..
Or how they want to be.. And it is right that they can be if they choose too.

The Other 19 will make there school lives a living hell..
NOT Because they dont understand.. But because THAT is what Children do to each other..

Why Would you want to put them through that..??
Dont you love them..?

as you say yourself, children make each others lives hell anyway but if you teach them the facts then at least they know

Of course.. That will surely stop the Playground bullies beating the snot out of the different kid...

We have been aducating them for years that is is NOT Wrong to be different..
Has that stopped It..?

The charity Depression Alliance estimates that each year there are around 19,000 suicide attempts by UK adolescents whilst more than 2 million children attend GP's surgeries with some kind of psychological or emotional problem.

Suicide statistics show that in the UK at least 16 children kill themselves each year because they are being bullied at school

In inner city areas, over 43% of children have considered suicide and one in six children under the age of 11 have attempted suicide. Common causes cited include bullying, abuse, poverty,

And this is WITH Education..

Do you think that count will be Higher or Lower.. Once the Playground Bullies Decide you are different because you are homosexual..??
Even if 10 of the 19 agree thats its ok.. For them to be..
There is still the other 9.
Add the street.. Mix in a few cans of beer.. Add a crowd.. And see what happens.

Its hard enough for them NOW..
Why do you want to make it worse..??

Teach them YES..
Be Gay YES..
Just not in school..

i think you missed my point

Why would teaching that it is normal to be heterosexual orhomosexual make bullies decide to bully homosexuals - if anything you are making a point against yourself, for would teaching the youths it is acceptable to be either not teach them that they are not different? I don't see any sense in what you say there at all...


Why should thugs question this - who here has proposed teaching people to be homosexual? Did I miss that post? It has already been said - you cannot make somebody gay or straight!


How could i object to that? =p Thing is, it is a pity we have to repeat our points because the same senseless arguments are being made...


Of course! But this point does not really contribute to the thread at all does it? For this applies to all sex education, nothing to do with homosexuality nor heterosexuality, both must be involved. If you are teaching a child the facts of life, then of course there are limits as to what age to tell them, what should be told, but this is completely another issue as far as I'm concerned and nothing to do with sexual preference!


No... why paedophilia is even mentioned in this thread is beyond me, I'm afraid. As Osiol pointed out several times, have you not learned about consensual sex? Paedophiles can be straight or homosexual, that is nothing to do with their perverted actions and I'm surprised you even thought of it at all in your argument. Someone here said most are homosexual, unless all of them are - how can a link even be proposed? Especially since it is such a miniscule minority of homosexuals who are knwon to be paedophiles!


Trust me, if it was, I'd be a lesbian just to pi*s off people like yourself who express such antiquated views. Thing is, I know it's not a choice. This notion in itself is enough to tell me to accept that your view will not be changed.

I Simply agreed that school wasnt the right place to teach children.

And my point was lost, Im guessing it was missunderstood.

hmmm... ok...

What about transsexualists, zoophiles etc. ? Don't tell me that they should be discriminated...

Mr G I hear that there is a float with your name on it this weekend in Manchester :p

Would that be the Gaily Decorated one.? ( LOL )

Nothing wrong with them - they bring no harm to others whatsoever, so what is the problem with them?

This is ridiculous, zoophilia is perversion because it is the rape of animals i.e not consensual. This is a completely different matter - start up a petition against this and I will be of the first to sign

If your point was lost, perhaps that is because you made many others with it. If you read back on what you have posted, then you will see you said more than this solitary point. I do not believe you were misunderstood, as you were given responses to your point, perhaps you misunderstand our answers?

Oh it most certainly is :)) I'll be watching out for Mr G tomorrow :)))

Zoophiles, wasnt that the programe where Jonny Morris made silly voices for the animals?

I'm sorry everyone but that just made me laugh. You've got to give him an "A+" for creativity. :]

Except for them chopping of their parts :/

I really didn't need to know that. I felt pain when I read that.... :[

it's their parts to chop off

IMO...There's sth psychologically wrong with you if you have to alter your body in such an extreme fashion. There's nothing wrong with being gay, but this is a bit overboard.

And yes, it's their parts and sth they'll have to live with, but the point was that theres sth wrong with them mentally. And I know they aren't threat to society, but to themselves. I'm not against it, but it's just not right to do.

...for you

Who on this earth has the moral authority to say what is right and wrong for individuals,as long as no harm is commited against others what is wrong with freedom. Those who are repulsed are normally so through fear ,what is there to be afraid of if "Greg" wants or should have been"Gina" or whether "Mark" and "John" live together or Mark and jane?
Nothing is contagious,you wont catch it you know, I worked for years in "theatrical" circles and have never once felt the urge to either go with another man or alter my plumbing.
k.
btw,they dont "chop them off" they slit them open,take out the b***s then tuck whats left inside...........god they show some crap on british TV lol

I was always neutral but its just impossible,cause its not about tolerance..

First it starts with 'tolerance' , then legalized partnership, then marriages and finally adopotion of children and their brain wash in preschools (spain) that daddy (Mark) mummy (John) is ok...

Unfortunatelly in most of UE (in particular UK) minorities got the most to say.

In Poland we are one the first stage and I hope we will always stay on it.

Regards

Nor is school the place to fill childrens heads full of religious supertitious nonsense....but its still happening!

The word tolerance is merely a verbal excuse to not include or understand.......

And that's not the end. Did you hear about the party of pedophiles in Holland ?

what are paedophiles to do with your thread at all?

I even heard about some agreements between them and ... radical islamist in past elections...

It looks like in term of our political situation, we are still far behind Holland :)

Regards