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This is horrible... Baby farm in Poznan!!!!


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FISZ
  Oct 7, 06, 09:22  #1

CBS Investigation reveals "baby farm" in Poznan

Not even Pruszków had such a business concept, an investment bringing in profits within nine months.

"This might be called a baby farm," said a policeman from the Central Investigation Bureau (CBS). On Wednesday the CBS' Poznan office revealed the results of a terrible investigation, which shed more light on criminals using prostitutes for over three years. "When the girls became pregnant, their children were sold for adoption," said Ewa Olkiewicz from police division in Wielkopolska. After getting pregnant the girls were still selling themselves for money until their bellies could be clearly distinguished. Prior to the birth date they were sent to a clinic in Germany and afterwards the children disappeared, while the girls were sent back to Poland and received a small share in the profits. "A buyer could be anyone. It did not necessarily have to be a family wishing for a child. We have evidence that such children could be sold to pedophiles. And thus there are pedophile movies with babies [on the internet]," said Irena Dawid-Olczyk from LaStrada foundation.

For those that live in PL, was this big news recently? The article is from 21 sept


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Hobbitual [Guest]
  Oct 7, 06, 09:24  #2

Yes that is very sad.

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wozzy
  Oct 7, 06, 09:43  #3

Quoting: FISZ, Post #1
"A buyer could be anyone. It did not necessarily have to be a family wishing for a child. We have evidence that such children could be sold to pedophiles.


I wonder how their mothers feel when they realise the possible fate of their children.

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FISZ
  Oct 7, 06, 09:53  #4

It's an unforgivable act and I'm sure they'll feel horrible for the rest of thei lives....and they certainly deserve it.


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Wroclaw
  Oct 7, 06, 09:54  #5

I haven't heard about this. But it is sickening.


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krysia
  Oct 7, 06, 10:00  #6

Quoting: FISZ, Post #1
was this big news recently

Yes, it was on TV while I was there. They even had that in the papers. It's very disturbing. They even had interviews with some of the girls.
All for the MONEY!!!!

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Wroclaw
  Oct 7, 06, 10:03  #7

Yeah, I've just found some links to Gazeta Wyborcza.


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koper [Guest]
  Oct 7, 06, 11:57  #8

Quoting: wozzy, Post #3
I wonder how their mothers feel when they realise the possible fate of their children.

Propably they didn't think about it.

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iwona
  Oct 7, 06, 13:19  #9

I saw similar program about it in Bulgaria. These women are kidnapped and kept till child is born.

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Shelley [Guest]
  Oct 7, 06, 13:26  #10

I actually feel sick at the pedo thing and feel sorry for the girls, who knows what conditions they are kept in or how they are treated, if they are forced into it with no option but to do it....it a terrible world we live in these days and seems to be getting worse

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iwona
  Oct 7, 06, 13:37  #11

it is quite sad...and people who do it do it for money...big money......

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Shelley [Guest]
  Oct 7, 06, 13:38  #12

money the root of all evil!

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iwona
  Oct 7, 06, 13:40  #13

exactly

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Marzena
Edited by: Marzena  Oct 7, 06, 14:32  #14

Quoting: Shelley, Post #12
money the root of all evil!


no, it's not money that's the root of evil but the people who do evil things are the root of evil. people have brains and can make choices and afterwards - should take responsibility instead of blaming it on money, sex, other people... bla bla bla.

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Friedrich Engels [Guest]
  Oct 7, 06, 14:39  #15

Quoting: Shelley, Post #12
money the root of all evil!

So true!!!

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FISZ
  Oct 7, 06, 15:37  #16

Quoting: Marzena, Post #14
it's not money that's the root of evil


....but most of it. Murders, theft, muggings, drug distribution, selling children....this list goes on. Sex would be next on the list.


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Marzena
  Oct 7, 06, 15:52  #17

Quoting: FISZ, Post #16
....but most of it. Murders, theft, muggings, drug distribution, selling children....this list goes on. Sex would be next on the list.


you are confusing the 'thing' that DOES the action (the subject) with the thing that the actions is DONE ON (object of action). obviously you wouldn't blame the object for the actiond done BY the subject, would you?

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FISZ
  Oct 7, 06, 15:55  #18

Whatever.... they didn't create that saying for nothing It's the money's fault damnit


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Marzena
  Oct 7, 06, 16:02  #19

Quoting: FISZ, Post #18
Whatever.... they didn't create that saying for nothing It's the money's fault damnit


yeah, they created the saying cause the thought that it's actually YOU who's responsible for your own behavior wouldn't be nice. it's much easier to blame something else and feel good about yourself. have you ever heard of rationalizing? so you trust someone who created this saying without even knowing who it was and why they said it..?

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FISZ
Edited by: FISZ  Oct 7, 06, 16:06  #20

Quoting: Marzena, Post #19
so you trust someone who created this saying without even knowing who it was and why they said it


It's been areound longer than I've been alive. Yhis is the original “For the love of money is the root of all evil.” Timothy, 6:10. The phrase first appeared in English circa 1000 A.D.

This may be better "the root of most evil is man’s desire for status; either greed to increase one’s status, or jealousy over losing in the status game to others"


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Marzena
Edited by: Marzena  Oct 7, 06, 16:16  #21

Quoting: FISZ, Post #20
man’s desire for status; either greed to increase one’s status, or jealousy over losing in the status game to others


and this is how chimpanzees live and that's what they do. we think of them as animals not seeing how similar they are to us - temperamentally and socially.

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FISZ
  Oct 7, 06, 16:22  #22

Yes, and cavemen Not much has changed huh? LOL


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Marzena
  Oct 7, 06, 16:28  #23

Quoting: FISZ, Post #22
Not much has changed huh?


my point exactly... sad, isn't it? and the nature thought that if it gave us bigger brains, things would actually change...

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AmirahJanowitz [Guest]
  Oct 8, 07, 16:47  #24

my god how sicking. how can people be so non humans. this made me sick.
the Polish police and interpol should get a hold and stop this from going on. it is sad people who want kids can not have any but babies bron into this this is not right. what is the world comming too. I will say revelation.

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Bubbles
  Oct 8, 07, 17:09  #25

That is horrible. My stomach hurts after this one


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North Pole [Guest]
  Oct 8, 07, 17:09  #26

Yet, the Loch Ness Monster seems to be in very good condition. For some information.

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AmirahJanowitz [Guest]
  Oct 8, 07, 18:27  #27

I agree bubbles

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AmirahJanowitz [Guest]
  Oct 8, 07, 18:29  #28

funny loch ness monster you scottish N Pole.

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Zgubiony
  Oct 9, 07, 08:15  #29

This is a yr old. I;'m sure this isn't happening now. Let the topic rest.



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scots
  Oct 10, 07, 06:03  #30

Sounds horrible, but if it's a year ago then its maybe been sorted by now

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