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How do i stay in poland longer than 90 days if im already in poland
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MasterNateDawg
  Jan 24, 08, 13:54  #1
I am us citizen. I have been in poland for 4 weeks now. I want to stay for 9 months total. Where do i need to go to get a "long visa". I called one embassy and they said i need to fly back to america to get it, but i dont know about that.
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BubbaWoo
  Jan 24, 08, 13:57  #2
Its da dawg

Whatup my nappyhaired homsta

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MasterNateDawg
  Jan 24, 08, 13:59  #3
ha whatsup. Got any info for me?
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BubbaWoo
  Jan 24, 08, 14:00  #4
none of the longterm yanks i know in poland bother with visa extension

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MasterNateDawg
  Jan 24, 08, 14:01  #5
So what should i do. just leave the country after 2.5 months then return. Does that give me another 90 days automatically. Is there a length of time i need to stay outside of poland for this to 'reset'
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Wyspianska
  Jan 24, 08, 14:05  #6
hey Nate haha look how addicted am I :D
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BubbaWoo
  Jan 24, 08, 14:06  #7
as i was saying - the longterm yanks i know have just stayed

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MasterNateDawg
  Jan 24, 08, 14:40  #8
hah sup wyspianksa. didnt imagine you would possible find my thread ha.

So if i just stay, then what happens when i leave and try to come back again some day. will they try to block my entry
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James Revan
  Jan 24, 08, 16:43  #9
Don't think so that they will block you. Poland is much more open for US then US for poles. And, you know, you can always get a visa to Germany, and just drive through the polish borded, nobody will stop you now, inside EU the borders are lifted.
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Wroclaw Boy
  Jan 24, 08, 17:08  #10
Sup Dawg, Just carry on soldier I doubt no one will ever know the difference. If you want to work or buy a house then you should probably apply for a permit. Its de EU dawg once your in your in.

MasterNateDawg wrote:
So if i just stay, then what happens when i leave and try to come back again some day. will they try to block my entry

NAH!
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MasterNateDawg
  Jan 26, 08, 10:11  #11
hey , so its good news what you are hearing.

But i would like to be to 100% on this. Does anyone have an links to some resources where i could learn more.

Should i really just stay, or should i go in a month to somewhere for a few days, then return.

I cant let it happen that i go out and they stop me from returning due to violation of my stay period. My girl is here and that would mean instant separation.
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inkrakow
  Jan 26, 08, 12:59  #12
American friends in Krakow say that from what they can gather, it's 90 days within any 6 months and the 6 months start from the first time you enter the Schengen zone. Leaving the zone doesn't give you another 90 days/6 months and the only place you can get a long stay visa is in your country of origin/passport. I know of one guy who was deported last year due to visa irregularities when he tried to come back to Poland and then ended up barred for a few years. Having said that, there are a large number of Americans here who are just keeping their heads down and not leaving and taking it as it comes. Good luck!

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ukpolska
  Jan 26, 08, 13:33  #13
MasterNateDawg wrote:
My girl is here and that would mean instant separation.

If you feel that strong about her then get married; then the problems are gone except for the mindless bureaucracy that you will have to through :O(
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hairball
  Jan 26, 08, 13:33  #14
If you can find a job of any kind that is legal it's pritty easy to stay.
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jkn005
Edited by: jkn005  Jan 29, 08, 08:00  #15
In the past, say pre December 2007 you could just go to the Czech Republic, Germany or any other country for a day and come back. That would reset your 90day travel visa. However with the schengen zone now being active since the New Year this has all changed. The only way you can stay longer than 90days in a 180day period is to get a temporary residence permit. .You would have to fill out an application, provide justification for stay, like studying polish, prove your finances, prove health insurance, must be registered with the city, etc etc. Visit the local Polish Immigration office for the paperwork. You must also submit this paperwork before 45 days after entering Poland. Try and take someone who speaks polish and make sure to ask every question you need answered. They normally won't tell you all the info even if you ask. The polish government workers are notorious for not giving all the needed information.

By the way I'm American and just went through this process. I have been living here for over 2 years using the old way. Now I have to actually get a permit to stay. My reason for staying is because of a hot polish girl. :D

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MasterNateDawg
  Feb 6, 08, 13:53  #16
Well i guess i cant do that because
I dont have health insurance, and I wont have it.
I dont have a reason for staying except i want to be with my girl. and that wont count.

Guess ill be taking it as it comes, as well.
We are getting married, but not in poland, in america later.
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FISZ
  Feb 6, 08, 13:58  #17
Getting Married? Are you sure you're the same Master Nater? Marriage...sounds like a "wussy" thing to do.
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Guest
  Apr 5, 08, 08:03  #18
Thread attached on merging:
How long can Americans stay in Poland?

Hi, I've been here in Warsaw since January, teaching english. I'm really enjoying the whole experience but I read on the us embassy website that I can only stay for 3 months without a visa. If so, then my time is about up; what should I do? what if I stay longer? what do I risk? will they not let me back in Poland?

                              
 
Kowalski
  Apr 5, 08, 16:53  #19
"Undesirable in the territory of a participating State" - this may pop up next time you'll be entering Schengen zone.
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masks98
  Apr 10, 08, 14:31  #20
What if you lose your passport and get a new one without any stamps in it?

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jkn005
  Apr 13, 08, 06:25  #21
Guest:
How long can Americans stay in Poland?

Hi, I've been here in Warsaw since January, teaching english. I'm really enjoying the whole experience but I read on the us embassy website that I can only stay for 3 months without a visa. If so, then my time is about up; what should I do? what if I stay longer? what do I risk? will they not let me back in Poland?


You could be deported. You would also risk being deported in any other schengen country. You can't apply for a temporary resident permit either to stay in the country since you are already past 45 days on your tourist visa. The only thing you can do is go back to the states and apply from there. If you overstay and get caught you risk being banned entry into the Schengen zone (most of Europe) for a few years.

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valmoe1
  Apr 13, 08, 08:07  #22
I just went through this process last week. I have been crossing the border back and forth but now because of this new Shengan Zone you can't do that, or so I thought. I spent a day running around town from 1 office to another dragging my polish translator with me. After sitting in a stuffy office for over an hour, I ran into a Director, literally. Anyways, we explained my situation and he advised me to do the following: Go to Ukraine, get married or just don't bother. He said that Americans are treated with a little more acceptance at the border. If your asked why you extended your stay and your reason is valid enough they'll just pass you on through. I expressed that I would be coming back in the fall and asked if that would be a problem. The director advised me no. My reason for my extended stay is pretty good (teaching and living with a PL/USA citizen).

Funny, I seem to be the 1st one going through this because last week, there were no posts so I ran around stressing out. LOL

I am American by the way, I would just make sure that if you plan on leaving Poland you get some legal papers but if you plan on staying in PL until you go back to the states, according to my buddy the director, you should be safe.

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Grzegorz_
  Apr 13, 08, 08:24  #23
valmoe1:
The director advised me no.


But don't forget that this is Poland. One guy says something, other may have different opinion...
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David_18
  Apr 13, 08, 08:49  #24
MasterNateDawg@
You should have thought about that before you went to Poland. but anyway you should try to speak to the embassy again, try both the polish and us embassy.

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Seanus
  Apr 13, 08, 08:51  #25
To answer the thread question, just don't book any transport out of the country, simple!!
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jkn005
  Apr 13, 08, 08:52  #26
valmoe1:

Today, 08:07 Report #22

I just went through this process last week. I have been crossing the border back and forth but now because of this new Shengan Zone you can't do that, or so I thought. I spent a day running around town from 1 office to another dragging my polish translator with me. After sitting in a stuffy office for over an hour, I ran into a Director, literally. Anyways, we explained my situation and he advised me to do the following: Go to Ukraine, get married or just don't bother. He said that Americans are treated with a little more acceptance at the border. If your asked why you extended your stay and your reason is valid enough they'll just pass you on through. I expressed that I would be coming back in the fall and asked if that would be a problem. The director advised me no. My reason for my extended stay is pretty good (teaching and living with a PL/USA citizen).

Funny, I seem to be the 1st one going through this because last week, there were no posts so I ran around stressing out. LOL

I am American by the way, I would just make sure that if you plan on leaving Poland you get some legal papers but if you plan on staying in PL until you go back to the states, according to my buddy the director, you should be safe.


First off, don't trust anyone. Half them don't have a clue. Most will tell you one thing, and the next person another. Sure they might let you in, but there is no guarantee. Another thing is that although the polish authorities might not care, other countries will. It's your risk really, but I wouldn't chance it.

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Threegigs
  Apr 17, 08, 19:42  #27
jkn and Valmoe, please post any info on the process you can. I found the same as you, that clear and concise information about moving to Poland from the US (or any non EU or UK country for that matter) is hard to find.

As far as I can tell, in order to work in Poland, it goes something like this:

-Potential employer applies for and obtains a 'promissory decision' (authorized work promise) from the local Govt.
-Potential employee takes that work promise *back* to their home country, and applies for a 'work visa' (work promise is needed as part of application).
-Potential employee then brings work visa back to Poland and then he and the employer apply for a 'work permit'.

I'm really interested in hearing from anyone who has recently gone through, or is currently going through that process. I'm especially interested in how long it took, unexpected complications, timing and all the gritty details they *don't* tell you on the official websites.

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dcchris
  May 2, 08, 13:15  #28
for a noneu citizen you can be looking at 6 months to get your permission to stay visa. that is how long it has taken me and hopefully I will get it soon. A few options to get the visa. Promise to marry a Polish citizen, work promise from a business, enroll in a school. why not apply for the visa rather than being stressed everytime you go outside pl? Its a hassle for sure but unless you are working or going to school than time is one your side...

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Harry
  May 2, 08, 16:25  #29
dcchris:
for a noneu citizen you can be looking at 6 months to get your permission to stay visa. that is how long it has taken me and hopefully I will get it soon.


You must be getting confused. A local government is legally required to issue a decision on any application for a temporary residency card (a TRC) within 45 days of the application therefor. That decision on such application must be based on sound legal grounds (and 'we didn't have time to look at all the paperwork' is not considered sound legal grounds for refusing to grant a TRC).

Are you sure you aren't taking about a 'permit to settle"? Those take a while. But then they are usually not based on a promise of work either.

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