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  Dec 7, 06, 11:59  #1

hey everyone..i am a student of polish language,first year, and writing a seminar, about Mickiewicz. The title is: Ideas of messianism of Adam Mickiewicz. Please anyone, if you have anything on this subject, i would really really appreciate it, ia am kind of in a hurry and there is not much said on this subject in my country Slovenia.. I would really like it if anything you send me would be in english, becouse i am only a beginner in your language, if not, no problem also.
So if you have anything you said about in your school,college,articles,thank you very much!!!
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  Dec 7, 06, 12:29  #2

Adam Mickiewicz was one of the greatest Polish bards. When you do a surver in Poland and ask about the Polish most memorable author, 80% of Poles would mention him.

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  Dec 7, 06, 13:17  #3

Quoting: hello, Post #2
When you do a surver in Poland and ask about the Polish most memorable author, 80% of Poles would mention him.


But the problem is that most of them wouldn't be able to say much about things he wrote, becase they aren't "easy" and these I had to read in high school seemed to be simply... weired.

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  Dec 7, 06, 13:23  #4

Quoting: preview, Post #1
The title is: Ideas of messianism of Adam Mickiewicz.


Mickiewicz thought that Poles are a kind of... a chosen nation, which has some special mission... and I think that in his opinion It was that Poles through uprisings and suffering should encourage other nations, which like Poland were in 19th century under foreign occupation, to fight for their freedom... but I'm not 100% sure about that. Maybe someone else will write more.

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  Dec 7, 06, 13:28  #5

thank you for your answers, especially you gregorz...anyone else

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  Dec 7, 06, 13:29  #6

Wait ! It looks that I was wrong.

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miranda
  Dec 7, 06, 13:34  #7

Quoting: hello, Post #2
bards.

he was not a bard but a poet to be exact,
the rest you could google in english
Good luck

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Grzegorz_
  Dec 7, 06, 13:39  #8

gotowce.com.pl/prace/781_mesjanizm_mickiewicza_a_mesjanizm_slowackiego .htm

Looks like that what I wrote is rather messianism of Juliusz Słowacki... Mickiewicz believed in that special mission... he thought that Poland was... a Christ of nations and through own suffering should somehow liberate other nations, but unlike Słowacki he wasn't calling for fight, rather to wait for some savior...

So you see that dude was weired

There's plenty of things about that in Polish, you need to wait for someone, who will translate them better.

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  Dec 7, 06, 13:55  #9

hehetnx again:upfcourse he was weird, otherwise, we wouldnt have him as a theme on our essays...did you ever make an essay about someone normal
btw,nice english grzegorz

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Wroclaw
  Dec 7, 06, 14:13  #10

Can someone do my homework for me. I'm too lazy to do it myself.

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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Dec 7, 06, 14:21  #11

Quoting: Wroclaw, Post #10
Can someone do my homework for me. I'm too lazy to do it myself.

I know, I suggested that she should goole info in english and she dismissed me, flirting with Grzegorz instead!!!!!!!

you are very welcome

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rafik
Edited by: rafik  Dec 7, 06, 14:29  #12

Quoting: preview, Post #1
hey everyone..i am a student of polish language

why did you choose Polish.Just courious

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  Dec 7, 06, 14:42  #13

ok, i am not asking you to do my homework,thats a bit over reacted , dont you think? I am simply asking you to help me a little, as true polish people and people that did have this in their schools and should know it best, becouse i dont have much literature translated in my language, everything else i have is google, so ofcourse, i wanna try some other resources??

rafik, i chose polish, becouse of pragmatic reasons
and becouse i like the language, its quite similar to my native language and my mother lg.also(serbian)
p.s.-so what if i am flirting,jelous???

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Edited by: miranda  Dec 7, 06, 14:51  #14

Quoting: preview, Post #13
p.s.-so what if i am flirting,jelous???



what you think genius?

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  Dec 7, 06, 15:00  #15

i think you are

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miranda
  Dec 7, 06, 15:08  #16

Quoting: preview, Post #15
i think you are

I never know how to talk to teenagers and I failed again

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  Dec 7, 06, 15:21  #17

hows that possible,you re supposed to be a sociologist?
and not a teenager,26...
ok enough of that, i really could you use some more of your help,thank you again

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  Dec 7, 06, 15:32  #18

I tried to help you - I looked at the websites on Mickiewicz, since there are a lot of them out there in English and you asked for english - correct? Grzegorz gave you a polish website, which you cannot read - correct?

.......so I just think that you have been cought red handed and don't want to admit it.
Teenage behaviour, so get off my back princess.

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  Dec 7, 06, 22:25  #19

i am looking for sth, as i said earlier, from somebody who had this in school, who has some interesting comments on it,some more polish sites..miranda if you dont want to help me, please dont answer to my posts, a am here for mickiewicz only,not interested in women anywaysso, anyone else

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Edited by: krysia  Dec 7, 06, 22:45  #20

Here are some sites which mention about his messianism. I studied Mickiewicz, saw his movies and read many of his books, but he uses hard to understand language and you have to really read into his works in order to understand.
http://info-poland.buffalo.edu/classroom/mickiewicz/grol.html
http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~sarmatia/405/254roddy.html
http://www.catholicity.com/encyclopedia/m/mickiewicz,adam.html
http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/post/john-paul.html

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Grzegorz_
  Dec 8, 06, 09:34  #21

Quoting: miranda, Post #11
flirting with Grzegorz instead!!!!!!!


I'm flirting only with jay uk...

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Babylon
  Dec 8, 06, 09:38  #22

He was probably a belarusian descent ask Lukaszenka president of Belarusia

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poland2006
  Dec 8, 06, 10:20  #23

i am going to be taking polish schools again.. awww i am so happy.. the reason is beacuse i forgot my polish.. so yea.. hahhaha

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