Immigration: An Inconvenient Truth (UK show)

- Not exactly, Liza. The Poles (amongst other foreign labour in UK) immensely enrich the UK by their toil. How many Britons have made fortunes from the Polish workers' toil? How many Britons sit cozily on welfare thanks to the Polish workers' toil? - If the Polish workers weren't VERY beneficial to UK, your government would never allow them in.

It's peculiar indeed - we work for peanuts, are exploited, enrich UK, and for all that are insulted, hated, beaten up and killed in UK. We should head back for Poland as soon as possible, all of us. And leave UK to the Third World crowds. Coward lennyd and similar degenerates will never attack the Third World people - Chinese, Indians, Africans - the way he and scum like him attack us, Polish people.

Thanks for your defense of Poles, Liza. I know there are also decent people like yourself in the UK.

Puzzler...which charm school did you go too.....?

Has it since been closed for health and safety reasons?

Don't believe the hype, the propaganda the ********!

Let your testicles descend more fully from your lower abdomen......you look a little tight there...:)

Hey Puzzler... I'm one of the foreign workers :) Just not Polish...

- The usual blame-the-victim attitude, Frank? ;)



- Why sit quiet, even with primitive fascist scum like this? It's actually fun to shoot back at them full blast.
:)
PS. Frank, when I say 'UK' it doesn't pertain to Ireland. I can say only good things about the Irish, the way you treat Poles.

- Greetings to you, sister. By the way, in one of your posts you seem to suggest that foreign workers are burden to the Britsh taxpayer. In reality, we enrich the proverbial taxpayer big time. We pay for ourselves in abundance. You're right - unlike e.g. many Asians, Polish people don't intend - nor want - to stay in UK for good. Many of them are going back already; they've had it here. Are you heading back as well? What's your nationality?

Sorry - I must have been distracted when I wrote that post... I know the foreign worker is an asset.



After the amount of grief I get for being a foreigner in the UK (and considering I'm not Polish, I suspect I'm getting off lightly in the abuse stakes compared to what the Poles suffer), I've got an awful lot of facts and figures to prove my worth. That and I'm in the top .5% of my pay bracket for my job nationally, so I'm well paid ('employers only want foreigners so they can give them cheap wages' - yeah right).



One of the Poles at work told me yesterday she and her family will go back in June, as they are actually becoming afraid of the Anti-Polish sentiment in the UK...

I'm a Kiwi - my other half is Polish. We're planning on going to NZ in four to five years to settle down and begin a family.

- There are many more - including me - who feel exactly the same. Yeah, we should leave this place of humiliation and hate, as soon as possible.

So you're going to stay in UK as long as 4 or 5 years? Wouldn't it be too long, regarding the xehophobia?

The unfortunate thing is, there are British people who are happy for the Poles to be here.. its just the unhappy ones are more vocal about it. I'm hoping that the Poles at least will succeed so well here that the unwelcoming Brits will have to choke on their own words.



I might only be five foot tall, but I give as good as I get. In the meantime I'm trying to convince my Polish friends to move to NZ when I go back, where they would be welcomed (our Polish population is unfortunately decreasing)

- Oh yes, of course; I know that; sorry if my posts in this thread should give the impression it's otherwise. I've met scores of lovely people in UK.

So you're trying to persuade some Poles to immigrate to NZ? Would it be easy for them to do? I've heard the immigration policy there is tough, also on the Poles. Is it true?

I visited NZ in the eighties, the famous beaches.

- Let's hope so, Liza. And let's hope the vast majority of Poles go back to their country and be successful there, rather than in some inhospitable foreign lands (I don't mean NZ here).

Puzzler....you're b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t-t-i-n-g me now....?????!!!!!....get your head down, stand firm and tell them to get stuffed...not on this board but at your workplace and elsewhere.....

Wheres the backbone and courage of your forefathers????

Do not role over and play dead.......show some b-a-l-l-s!



If the Irish put up with it for 150 years, you can do it for 10 years.......and I don't want to hear any more whinging!!!

Funny how people over here feal so unwelcome,sad more like,as anywhere Ive gone in the world,especially Poland Ive been made to feel most welcome indead. Is this now going to change purly through a sort of reverse xenophobia? Are those of you who have experienced the worst of a country(probably through ending up in an armpit like london or liverpool) or fixated on the loony headlines of our guttter press that may occasionally pick your nationality from a long list of targets ,designed to excite the mentally unchallenged mob that "read" them primarely to see a pair of breasts or 3 , as symptomatic of this group of countries known as the british isles.And with that will you fall back on lazy stereotypes(of the kind in said gutter press) and brand the irish(which Im half) as the charming wee folk,simerlarly "oppresed" by the dasterdly english as the Scots(my other half and place of birth) who bravely fought behind mel gibson against those ignorent and rascist english? Or will good sense prevail and eyesights cleared where idiots are seen as a minority,afterall,the vast majority of people,no matter their nationality or race, dont spare 2 seconds of thought for anyone outside their own little circle,honestly,"you" are not that important as to have vast armies of disgruntled english folk,armed with pitch forks and burning torches rounding up johnny forigner in some histerical pogrom. The majority dont care one way or another,2 minorities either love having a mix of people in this country or hate the very same,neither of which groups should really form any basis for a generised sweeping note of hysteria........

I am glad of your recognition I.........

I feel accepted by the board at last...undertood, valued but admittedly semi-illiterate......



Anyone else on the board who wants their respective a-s-s-e-s kissed.......:)





Hold on, till I take the rest of my medication!

Ah, so you looked in a dictionary then Frank, and spotted that literaly dosnt mean what you thought it did, It often surprises me how many ,seemingly inteligent people get Literal and figurative mixed up, never mind,your semi acknowladgment of your mistake is a sign of integrityand Im a big enough man to let it lie.

Nope.....I...aint kissing your greasy butt.....it can be used in either way...depends on the context and the other words its used with...just yanking your short chain........Mr Totally-illiterate......

No one is forced to come to the UK. Or stay. If Poles, (or anyone else) doesn't like it here, then they're very free to go.

I don't know where people are getting the idea that all UK citizens are Pole-hating, I'm certainly not, and I know many others who don't give a ********** about where others are from.

Actually, I've just realised it probably as pointless trying to argue the point that not all Brits are racist knuckle dragging Sun reading twats, as it is arguing with those who think Britain is full of the above and only come on here to slag the UK off.

A plague on both your houses.

hey,bog trotter, look in a book, literal from the letter or meaning to the letter ie exactly what it says in the tin, but as to your arrogent li'l obviously self loathing self , go talk to yerself, Ive better things to do than have some mick from the old country using me to show his own inadequicies.
Iliterate, er,no,just dyslexic, rather that than someone incapable of learning from mistakes like yer good self my boyo
can I also ask why you feel the need to "talk" like John Shaft?
go and play with some s e m tex on a busy moterway

Excellent command of the English language!

Go back to school Brits!

oh so lovely spitefull xenophobic johan picks on the disabled now,charming :)
your remarks may be a tad more effective if I gave a frig and didnt actually take the **** out of my own spelling on many occasions

Do they teach English at school in the UK? I have heard that many inner city schools concentrate on Asian languages.

You mean the languages of tommorow as opposed to teaching maybe a niche strand of western slavonic? What are you anyway Joanne, sorry,johan ( faggoty austrian sounding names sometimes confuzz this poor underedukated british person) some sort of pervert that seeks fluency in a language of a people they obviously despise? Or did you learn english to suck upto uncle sam?
I wouldnt know much about inner city schools though as Its been many many years since I attended my country Grammar School,sorry.

race is race it is the race of people it has nothing to do where people are from or what religeons they are it is just the colour of the skin , if polish were a different race to us then every country in the world would be a different race this is not the case , different nationalities yes but race no

Of all the places to put a capital letter in the above post why did you choose there! I suggest you go back to that grammar school and start all over again. After you have mastered your own language you can then move to other subjects like History, which from previous posts you also have difficulty with.

I'm going to ask a question which I'd appreciate an answer to from anyone BUT LennyD (for obvious reasons). Poles are generally of Slavic descent; English are generally from Celtic descent; yes or no? I just want to check my knowledge, bearing in mind I'm not British.

Generally it offers a points system, but it is not as strict as Australia's somewhat legendary system (which some areas of the media in the UK is holding up as the ultimate ideal). As a general guide, if you have a command of English and have a skill (such as a builder, plumber etc) or a degree, you shouldn't have too many problems coming to NZ. If a Pole (or anyone else) was keen to move there, I'd be happy to have a chat to them and give them help or advice... Personally I've got Japanese, Korean, Scottish, Irish, English, Chinese, Serbian, Croatian and American friends back in NZ; the only Pole I know in NZ is a very old friend of my grandmothers, but there are Polish associations in the main cities.

Fortunately the majority of the British people I have met in the UK are 'good as gold' and haven't given me any grief. Unfortunately though, the UK media (especially but not limited to the Daily Mail) make a point of publishing negative stories on immigration primarily focused on the Poles, meaning a lot of immigrants - not only the Poles - do feel unwelcome and wary of the British public.

I've been trying to find a tv ad that used to play back home that advertised how talking brings down barriers, but of course the 'one thing' I want to find on You Tube I can't!

Granted, not all Nigerians are well educated (or even educated) but i was simply trying to echo points raised by the said program. Nigerians are hard working, be it as a white collar worker or as an office cleaner.



I will not stoop to your level and start degrading the Scots. So i'll ask you to extend me the same courtesy. <=

The nation with the worst education in Europe is the Brits! They have even lost count of the amount of us Poles working in the UK.

The Brits is not a nation I have ever heard of.