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szarlotka
  Mar 19, 07, 10:53  #1

It’s almost three years now since Poland entered the EU. Aside from the obvious impact on the relative freedom of Poles to work elsewhere in the EU, what do you consider to be the main impacts of accession, both positive and negative?

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Grzegorz_
  Mar 19, 07, 10:58  #2

Quoting: szarlotka
what do you consider to be the main impacts of accession, both positive and negative?


Hard to see as there generally aren't any serious impacts...

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peterweg
  Mar 19, 07, 11:12  #3

A large amount of long term investments. Growing economy.

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 19, 07, 11:16  #4

there have been significant changes in the property market since EU entry - whether the impact of this is positive or negative we will have t wait to see and will no doubt remain a matter for debate for years to come

[price of beer seems to have risen slightly as well... which is obviously negative... ]

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szarlotka
  Mar 19, 07, 11:30  #5

Quoting: BubbaWoo
there have been significant changes in the property market since EU entry


And my pension fund is very, very grateful

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 19, 07, 11:31  #6

Quoting: szarlotka
And my pension fund is very, very grateful


if things go according to plan ive already retired...

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szarlotka
  Mar 19, 07, 11:35  #7

Quoting: BubbaWoo
if things go according to plan ive already retired...


Nice move

As long as my partners in Poland, Latvia, Estonia and Thailand don't do a runner so have I. Off on a whistlestop tour round the first three tomorrow for four days just to make sure they're not planning to do just that

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szarlotka
  Mar 19, 07, 11:38  #8

In Thailand. Three villas on Koh Samui, part share in a hotel on Koh Samui. and two aprtments in BK

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LoneStranger
  Mar 19, 07, 12:06  #9

Quoting: BubbaWoo
significant changes in the property market since EU entry

Prices gone high. Negative.

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 19, 07, 12:07  #10

did you miss the boat LS...?

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miranda
  Mar 19, 07, 12:20  #11

BW,
a lot of Polish people missed the boat when it comes to real estate and now they are not too happy, especially the ones who were thinking of buying and didn't.

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szarlotka
  Mar 19, 07, 12:22  #12

Quoting: miranda
a lot of Polish people missed the boat when it comes to real estate and now they are not too happy, especially the ones who were thinking of buying and didn't.


Very true M. It won't be long before people are priced out of areas where they have grown up, just like here in the UK

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 19, 07, 12:24  #13

Quoting: miranda
a lot of Polish people missed the boat when it comes to real estate and now they are not too happy


yeah... im fully aware of that M, thanks... LS seems to take the opportunity to point it out whenever possible... obviously one of the unhappy ones...

dems da breaks

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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Mar 19, 07, 12:31  #14

BW,
I know that you are fully aware

so am I -but there is not need to rub it in, is there?

LS - am sorry if you missed the boat. I didn't because I didn't sell and that makes me a very happy woman.
As for my buyer - she is a very miserable one.
Sz,
yes, you are absolutely righ and getting back to the topic - a lot of people in Poland have already suffered the consequences

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hello
  Mar 19, 07, 12:31  #15

While what Miranda says may make sense, I'm interested to know the opinions of Irish people (where market prices after joining the EU have dramatically risen). Have many Irish immigrants actually returned to Ireland after that?

Also, I noticed (on this forum too) there are more and more requests like "Looking for someone to sell my property in Poland, will pay high commission." So the speculators are trying to cash in, but it's not so easy to sell a Polish property for a good price anymore.

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Maxxx Payne
  Mar 19, 07, 12:37  #16

Do Poles want the euro ?

It was annoying that prices went up when Finland gave up itīs markka and the bills look boring as s***
Maybe it is good in the long run, dunno...

If Poland joined the Euro, who or what would be in the coins ?
Polish Eagle or King Casimierz ?

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 19, 07, 12:38  #17

Quoting: hello
Also, I noticed (on this forum too) there are more and more requests like "Looking for someone to sell my property in Poland, will pay high commission." So the speculators are trying to cash in, but it's not so easy to sell a Polish property for a good price anymore.


more and more property owners are realising that polish estate agents are not getting the results their extortionate commissions warrent...

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hello
  Mar 19, 07, 12:42  #18

Quoting: BubbaWoo
more and more property owners are realising that polish estate agents are not getting the results

But how can they get results if the market is low as it's overpriced (and people realize it's nicer to live in nicer EU countries and higher salaries than in Poland).

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 19, 07, 12:47  #19

Quoting: hello
But how can they get results if the market is low as it's overpriced


the current market state is fuelled by the greed of agents and vendors... if you take a dump in your bed, dont be suprised if you wake up smelling of poo...

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hello
  Mar 19, 07, 12:49  #20

Quoting: BubbaWoo
the current market state is fuelled by the greed of agents and vendors...

That's my point too. Some of them took/take the money for a building construction in advance and don't finish the project just because according to them they should have made more than what the current market could offer. So greed is a good word.

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LoneStranger
  Mar 19, 07, 12:51  #21

Quoting: BubbaWoo
BubbaWoo

Hmm.. ... I guess I'll work harder.

Quoting: miranda
miranda

Clever girl

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 19, 07, 12:55  #22

Quoting: hello
Some of them took/take the money for a building construction in advance and don't finish the project just because according to them they should have made more than what the current market could offer


yup... standard practice... happened to me

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BubbaWoo
  Mar 19, 07, 12:56  #23

Quoting: LoneStranger
Hmm.. ... I guess I'll work harder.


if you want to get on the ladder LS then perhaps we can talk

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miranda
  Mar 19, 07, 12:56  #24

Another benefit I have seen in Poland is a great improvement of road works.

Too many roundabouts for my taste but it definately eased up the traffic somewhat and improved a general safety.

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Maxxx Payne
  Mar 19, 07, 12:59  #25

Quoting: miranda

Another benefit I have seen in Poland is a great improvement of road works.

Too many roundabouts for my taste but it definately eased up the traffic somewhat and improved a general safety



But horsecarts are not allowed anymore ! Example of how EU and standards also make world duller place. Maybe thatīs price for progress.

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miranda
  Mar 19, 07, 13:11  #26

Maax,

good point. Poland is still interesting to me. It will take a long time to get those Polish people to change and that's a beauty of it

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peterweg
  Mar 19, 07, 13:37  #27

Quoting: Maxxx Payne
But horsecarts are not allowed anymore ! Example of how EU and standards also make world duller place. Maybe thatīs price for progress.


Thats a joke isn't it?

They aren't even banned in central London. Not very common anymore after the Young's Brewery stopped using them a couple of years back.

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daffy
  Apr 12, 07, 17:58  #28

Quoting: miranda

Another benefit I have seen in Poland is a great improvement of road works.


id definitely agree with this statement. Each time i visit, there is some new road or road re-developed and each time it just gets better and better

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witek
  Apr 12, 07, 20:35  #29

Maxx Paynee said "But horsecarts are not allowed anymore "

horse drawn wagons are used everyday throughout Poland

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Giles [Guest]
  Apr 13, 07, 04:25  #30

horse drawn wagons are used everyday throughout Poland

I've seen quite a few and those were on the motorway

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