Your intimate feeling toward Russians

Yes...I've heard of you! :):):)

I noticed that although the main site theory is very controversial since coming directly from pre-WW2 anthropology sources while after WW2 this whole science has been dismissed as not scientific,the links it contains point to actual scientific researches taking place and as a result these links are quite interesting.
For example quite a few Czechs claim that they have a general central european origin,they are not slavic.Hitler seemed to believe to the germanic origin of Czechs and that is why he created the protectorate in contrast to the general government in Poland.
This scientific research of czech scientists regarding distribution of gene mutations for cystic fibrosis is extermely important since it leads to the undisputable result that Czechs have definetely slavic origin,so there is no vague central european type,result of local mixes.

my intimate feelings towards russians, i love them and find making love to the female russian wonderful. now thats intimate, probably the most intimate posted to date :)

The Czechs germanic or celtic??? That's news to me....

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For me as well... esp. after 1945

I wrote what Hitler probably believed.Otherwise he would not try to germanize them and integrate them into Reich.The protectorate in Bohemia-Moravia was absolutely of different nature than the general government of Eastern provinces centered in Warsaw.Poles were supposed to be Slavs able to work,purposed to become slave workers for the Reich,while Czechs were regarded Aryans who would have to become german and enter the Reich.
The Slovaks were allowed to have independant country during WW2.

WOT????

Czechs were NEVER regarded as Aryans! And Hitler was surely not about to integrate them into the Reich!
What are you talking about????
And you shouldn't post about what you THINK others PROBABLY believed!

So why did they have to speak german,be taught only german in schools and universities and why all public sector gave orders in german?They were forced to abandon czech language and national identity.Ask any Czech who has lived in that period.You will notice that all old people speak german and this was not done without a reason.

The "lingua franca" thingie? There was no identity for the polish to have either...

And German WAS actually very common in Europe (still is).

Huh why were the slovaks special?

With the connivance of Germany, Slovakia declared itself independent in March of 1939. Probably part of Hitler's divide and conquer plan. They had a short lived war with Hungary, lost some territory to Hungary and then took part in the September 1939 invasion of Poland. They also fought with the Germans during Operation Barbarossa against Russia. They were great believers in pan-slavism.

Flippin slovaks. If they believed in pan-slavism, why were they helping Germany and invading slavic countries? Didn't Germany want to destroy the slavic race? Now I think I understand why there is such animosity towards the slovaks. :(

Actually Slovaks ran a violent revolution in early 1945 against the Germans which puzzled SS and drove to many casualties among Wehrmacht.It also helped because some forces were removed from the eastern front to suppress the revolution and so Soviets managed to break the front again.I saw a T-34 statue in the road that connects Kosice to Uzghorod in Ukraine.The tank lies in Slovakia about 50 km from the borders.Quite impressive.So they still remember Soviets and they have not forgotten their revolution.

you can be right actually, look at the bottom of the list:

seems like we effected serbs or they effected us:P

anyways i'm obviously kidding, not serious about it.

and there can't be something called "turkish phenotype". half of my city is blonde cause it's closer to russia part. if you go to south you'll see that people look like arabs. but even in the most south point there can be blonde people whose fathers moved from balkans or russia, who knows? even maybe iceland, ottoman pirates stole ships of women from iceland. i love my ancestors, what a good idea it's:P and obviously mixes of all these people, central asian turks, greeks, slavs, arabs, kurds, caucasians etc.. etc..

but really it's weird that they took it insult to looking like turk. i bet i look 10 times better than that crow 8)

Cyg, on current stage of our history it’s really hard to say. But anyway it wouldn’t be out of place if you and I thank Wends for the conformity of languages we speak. In Serbian and Czech (two Slavic languages I’m trying to study) really lots of sayings I can find analogy in Russian for. Some even spells similar… like Czech “oko za oko, zub za zub” regardless of Latin alphabet. The resemblance may be explained I guess by that these sayings were found ages ago when the boundaries and cultural diversities weren’t so pronounced.



If only it’s a child… :))))



Nope, Druzhe. I’m trying to defend the common sense being as fair as I can.



Wait. Don’t lump everything together. I personally admit that Germany played a large part in disintegration of former Jugoslavia as well as in Kosovo’s separation. But let’s be sober. It’s all about politics. They study their own interests. And it’s not nicely because it’s far from being truth.



Correct. Putin in fact doesn’t give a sh%t about Serbs as well as about his own People. But it’s applicable to all the countries. Well… not to all… ))))) Current Serbian government is about to sell interests of everybody to anybody who has a will of buying it. “Give us the EU. The hell with Kosovo” declares Tadic every day before going to bed. )))



Why not? I do. How about you?
Our government? You must be kidding. Actually that’s our country which needs a help now since Russians have never been in such a sh#t before.



Actually this is not “actually” but the way you wanna see it. R1a is rare for example among Serbs (that’s why I said that our genetic intersection less than 2%) but pretty common among non-Slavic Baltic people.


Southern, that’s a crucial issue. There’s NO special Slavic haplogroup. How can’t you figure this out yet?! Haplo-group has ever existed regardless of there were nations or not. Human is primary. A priori human doesn’t have any national attribute, he has only genetic code. That’s it. You’re inconsistent with what you’re saying. Do you consider Hungarians are Slavs?



Irrelevant. Friend, abstract yourself from countries and nationalities for a second. Put aside religious and cultural features. Imagine that there were three brothers who lived in the same area somewhere in Europe. They didn’t have any nationality but they were all own R1a gaplogroup. After a while one went to the West, another one to the North and the last one decided to live in the place where he had always lived. After some days their scions would say: one “I’m German”, another one “I’m Polish, I’m Slav”, last one “I’m Russian, I'm Slav”. Do you see what I’m saying? I hope this illustration works better for you. About Serbs a bit later… ))



Wrong. And I generally don’t understand your striving for imposing to Serbs R1a haplo-group. They should be proud of the one they have.



Lukasz, here I’m afraid I can’t share your opinion either. From what I know Balkan Peoples have kept classical (ancient) anthrotype.
Serbians – mostly so-called Serbian cluster of Dinaric type.
Croats - Serbian cluster of Dinaric type, Norid(k), Adriatic (Norid(k)+Iberian)
Crnogorci (Montenegrins) – are the mix of most ancient population of this region and Dinarians, related to so-called ultra-dinaric type. They’re tallest people in Europe and have biggest skull index.
Slavic anthro-component which these Slavic-spoken people have is really insignificant. Assimilation by Slavs of that region was mainly performed in terms of language. Anthrotypes and genes of local people have remained about the same. R1a haplogroup in Balkan people no more than 5%. That’s probably why Srbija fills special place in mind. )) We’re so different, but we’re together. )

BB, thanks for interesting link and good catch.



Lukasz, I hope we did. ))

My comment was facetious.

Aaaw :P gotcha lol

All of that kind of thinking is so crazy to me that it easily gets lumped together :/

Mistake.The slavic haplotype R1a which is common in Eastern Europe belongs to different family than the Skandinavian R1a.Slavic haplotype R1a belongs to types 16,19,21,29 mostly,while skandinavian haplotype R1a belongs to types 1,3,4,5,6,7,10.There are some types shared by both Slavs and Skandinavians probably due to some immigration around Baltics.



They have some slavic genes definitely.Ask Crow.



Wrong.Even in Greece which is not slavic country it is about 12% due to some slavic mix.In former Republic of Macedonia it is maybe 30% by some researches.



It is not so rare.In fact in Serbia,Croatia and Bosnia it has about 50-60% frequency.

halfvalue.com/wiki/jsp?topic=Slavic_Peoples



Actually there are quite a few which are strictly of slavic origin.

Look here at the distribution of R1a.Does this map say something to you?Do you see four distinct centers of highest R1a frequency inside zones?

Well, sorry me my dears, but somehow we have differed from the tread theme!

I would rather prefer that all of us expressed well-founded opinions, that would be some different than - "You are insane". Sure, suppose I am, but this has yet to be proved! Could anybody provide any information that will prove that Russia is non-democratic and arhaic society?

The flag of Putin's party has a bear on it.An archaic.non-democratic symbol.

Well, quite contrary! It's a realistic simbol, much more convenient than all that mythycal emblems which epresses all nationalas prides. Southern, you are greek , so you should know much about this, see on this fantastic animal which we borrowed from you (double headed eagle).

The bear was never a greek symbol.Can you imagine how other nations feel looking at russian bear on the move?
And what happened to the beer lovers party?Why was it dissolved?What fascists vodka drinkers turned against the beer lovers?

Bear Lovers

But duble haeded eagle was! Sure enough bear is much realistic and frendly simbol than eagle with two heads.

The bear is the heraldic animal of Berlin (Bearlin?) :)

Am I supposed to prove anything opposite since it has never been proved that it’s democratic? Besides it’s really none of the point. Doesn’t matter how you call the system as long as it makes people happy, treat them well, satisfy their requirements and give ‘em opportunities of spiritual and personal growth. Do you think people for instance in the US really care about how they call what they have?
Key problems of today’s Russia(n) (government) are the absence of working law system, corruption, excessive State machinery’s involvement solely in keeping the power rather than in handling hot economical and social issues, lack of press freedom and of the alternative views, rallying people round the ideas of hatred towards other nations in the absence of idea of self-improvement and concentrating on internal problems, destruction of social self-consciousness and cultural guiding line by aforesaid ones and other factors, political demagogy…
You may proceed if you fair enough and have a will for doing that.

Eventually there's no need to prove. Nowaday's Russia itself is the most vivid proof.

admin srew my contribution to Ancient Polish history thread and now i decided to punish all your efforts to attract me in discussions.

those attacks on my Net integrity coming from fact that i oppose to Tusk dictature, because i expose him as pro-German element and Slavic traitor. My democratic rights are violated also because of my efforts to show that Poles and Russians are brotherly Slavic nations. Plus, i refuse to accept religious divisons among Slavs and speak openly about anything. Seams that it is biggest abomination.

Alright. :)



Southern, that's a most forcible argument I've heard from you so far. :)
As the matter of fact I'm not prone to discuss that a lot. Perhaps if only you weren't so mad about slav's genetics.
Anyway let me know when you're open for truthful points.

Of course the bear's rear end is directed towards the West :)

As you can see, there is a Polish coat of arms inside Russian as well, on the left side of emblem.

Yeah, the eagle is biting the bear's ass so the bear has to return to the east.