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JuliePotocka
Edited by: JuliePotocka  Feb 18, 08, 21:12  #511

isthatu, for real, roflmao! So, the truth finally comes out - you hate Nobility! Do you hate the English Royalty and Nobility, too? I have been nice - really polite. Kid gloves are off.

The Polish Nobility created ahead of its time, what today we call 'Democracy'. Look it up.

You can complain all you like - you aren't going to change anything now or ever, are you.

Actually, the Poles who were in Kresy were given the lands for service, and that's why it was so easy for the Russians to cut the head off the Polish army - when you have the leaders in camps, and then kill them at Katyn, much easier.

And once again, their families and mine get our properties back. Words are meaningless - just pointless banter.

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z_darius
  Feb 18, 08, 21:31  #512

isthatu wrote:
You "Nobles" are 10 a penny around here.And most noble land was stolen in the first place......

So your Queen is a thief, or merely a descendant of thieves?

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JuliePotocka
  Feb 19, 08, 00:48  #513

Darius... ;>

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WAKEUPPOLAND2
  Feb 19, 08, 01:22  #514

I have noticed 2 things:

Celinski keeps going on about the forgotten Polish and Julie keeps going on about her lost heritage.

It doesn't matter what the topic is but these 2 ladies keep bringing the topic back to their own agenda.

Maybe that's what we are all doing....?

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celinski
  Feb 19, 08, 09:57  #515

WAKEUPPOLAND2 wrote:
Maybe that's what we are all doing....?


Maybe it's because we have just started to explore "openly"our past. When we take just the magnitude of "Katyn", 22,000 + military being unarmed, shot with hands tied behind their head, where in history has there bee such a war crime on military and yet no one held accountable. This started before the Sept. 1, 1939 date and was a massacre of our military. Then for the people to be told by Communist Poland, do not speak of this, was nothing but cover up. Today 2008 President Putin still tries to change history. On this link we speak of Israelis, but it is more. Polish were to exterminated, not Jewish. We must bring to light all of the victims.

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JuliePotocka
  Feb 19, 08, 14:51  #516

AMEN, celinski! THAT is what it's about: ALL the VICTIMS.

wakeup, you kept asking me questions, so I kept answering them; ergo, of course I would try an empathize through my family, dear.

You just bait us, and then pretend like we are crazy Polska ladies, sitting on our dupas, when it was YOU who kept bugging me for answers.

And what you can't comprehend, from my examples, which is crystal clear: ALL Polish families deserve their property back, no matter what their religion. 10,000 isn't that many people, in reality, across Poland.

This entire thread is inflammatory, and meant to fan the fires of Racism and Hate. I feel like we're going backwards in time, instead of forward, yet I hear you saying that is going forward?

This is rubbish.

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Crow
  Feb 20, 08, 16:19  #517

give them money, only. Even enormous amounts of money but, land keep for your children. Plus, say them thanks when they accept money and give them even more money. Then, when they take money put cross on yourself.

Don`t say anything, don`t ask. Just believe to a Serb

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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Feb 20, 08, 16:27  #518

Crow, I like your attitude, however Im not so gracious as you.....

Poles owe nothing to the Jews, if they want they can take it up with Germany and Russia which are responsible for starting this horrible war... then hopefully they will take that money and compensate the Palastinians....

Poles owe nothing to anybody for the results of WW2.......

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isthatu
Edited by: isthatu  Feb 20, 08, 16:28  #519

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Commie...

lol,your a commie if you dont arse lick people who happen to have been born into a family....you mate are a grovelling toady and a sheep.

JuliePotocka wrote:
The Polish Nobility created ahead of its time, what today we call 'Democracy'. Look it up.

yes yes,and they invented aeroplanes and penicilin and those nice paper thingys you have at posh dinner parties...yawn....shame Democracy comes from the GREEK, created while Poles were still in mud huts..... oh and polish "democracy" dont make me larf, a few robber barons and the vast majority of the population were slaves to the land,tied to their masters land and unable to leave on pain of death..look it up .

JuliePotocka wrote:
Do you hate the English Royalty and Nobility, too?

Yes,they are chinless wonders,about as usefull as the many polish "nobles" scatered all over the world.

JuliePotocka wrote:
You can complain all you like - you aren't going to change anything now or ever, are you.

Where I suppose you are with yer blue blood...

z_darius wrote:
So your Queen is a thief, or merely a descendant of thieves?

Yes.

WAKEUPPOLAND2 wrote:
Celinski keeps going on about the forgotten Polish and Julie keeps going on about her lost heritage

How long it take you to notice...?

WAKEUPPOLAND2 wrote:
It doesn't matter what the topic is but these 2 ladies keep bringing the topic back to their own agenda.

ie...yawn...it would maybe help if one of them actually knew anything about the subject...see below

celinski wrote:
This started before the Sept. 1, 1939 date and was a massacre of our military

NO IT DIDNT....FOR GOD SAKE,LEARN YOUR HISTORY!!!!!!

JuliePotocka wrote:
So, the truth finally comes out - you hate Nobility!

LMAO,my ancestors lands make your poxy little claim look like an inner city play park love.....its just I am my own person,I dont live off the past or bang on about the fact that the british empire pretty much started thanks to him...so....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

matthias wrote:
Poles owe nothing to anybody

actually, Darek at work owes me 50p...

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Crow
  Feb 20, 08, 16:39  #520

matthias wrote:
Poles owe nothing to the Jews,

read Polish Trybina, Warsaw Voice, etc awaken Polish media and you would see that Serbs don`t own nothing to Albanians. As the matter of fact, its quite opposite but, BUT

so, just give money or nothing. I believe that Israelis would take money. [and its not about Israelis. Its about anyone who want something from Poland.]

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celinski
  Feb 20, 08, 16:42  #521

isthatu wrote:
DIDNT....FOR GOD SAKE,LEARN YOUR HISTORY!!!!!!


I SAID IT DID AND GAVE PROOF, now stop your yelling. If you are so down on this subject go to another one. We all have our reasons for coming to this group, who made you judge and jury. Looks to me like you took to many mean pills today. If I may suggest, go make a hot cut of tea, grab some cookies and chill out. LOL

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isthatu
  Feb 20, 08, 16:45  #522

So carol,you still insist that katyn took place before 1st sept 39?? really? Come on,if so,I suggest you stop posting because your looking as daft as you did when you first came here asking for info. Info that was given by many and info you obviously ignore.

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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Feb 20, 08, 17:04  #523

Isthatu wrote:

actually, Darek at work owes me 50p...


lmfao..... : )

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JuliePotocka
Edited by: JuliePotocka  Feb 20, 08, 18:26  #524

I love how it took you TWO entire days to come up with that response, isthatu.

You don't know Polish history, so stop pretending to comprehend it. You blew it big time, even though I gave you the elements, you are too funny.

Here's something perhaps more to your tastes: Times articles on Katyn

Of course, this probably means nothing to you, either: Katyn Memorial

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celinski
  Feb 20, 08, 18:34  #525

celinski wrote:
katyn took



I did not say "Katyn" I said killing by Stalin's henchmen. Did you get your tea and crumpets yet?

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JuliePotocka
  Feb 20, 08, 19:24  #526

I doubt it; he missed the tea ceremony while he was busy twisting our words around.

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janekb
Edited by: janekb  Feb 29, 08, 23:21  #527

CROW - Thanks for words of wisdom. It seems that people in danger and oppression are smarter. Hope that things will turn well for you guys. I think you are being sold by Bushy idiot to show that he is not anti-Muslim.
All the best Bratko

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JuliePotocka
Edited by: JuliePotocka  Mar 1, 08, 19:58  #528

According to a quick look on the internet, it says that Stalin killed 43 million between 1929 and 1953. Ukrainian bodies You can see flip through, and see photos...have a strong stomach.

THAT is what Celinski is speaking of; Stalin began killing many people, before WW2, and Katyn. Katyn was just the icing on the cake for the mass murdering creature. He's worse than Dracula was EVER portrayed.

Note: My stepfather died a grisly death last year, from Multiple Myeloma. He took 8 years to die, and he wasted away to 87 pounds. What killed him, caused his cancer? Cleaning up the dirt from us bombing Japan with the A-bombs! He had to move the contaminated dirt. Did he regret it? No; he was proud to serve America in the cleanup.

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szmata
  Mar 5, 08, 19:26  #529

youtube.com/watch?v=OEp0zq1FTok&feature=related

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matthias
Edited by: matthias  Mar 5, 08, 19:54  #530

Szmata

Whats that video supposed to prove. I could only stand 2 mins of it... so whats the point of posting it.

If its to show how crappy Israeli music is than yeah you proved your point.

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JuliePotocka
Edited by: JuliePotocka  Mar 6, 08, 07:52  #531

Mathias, like your 'Darkness' avatar, from Topcow, by Marc Sylvestri. ;>

He's a popular traditional Orthodox Jewish Entertainer, with 6 kids. I don't see any point at all, except that kid near the beginning plays the violin better than me.

Everyone is entitled to their own religion, and ways. I live near one of the biggest melting pots in S. Cali, where Catholics, Christians, Orthodox Jews and Muslims all live peacefully together, with a few Indian Sikhs, and Hindus. People here cover for each other's major religious days, so all is good.

I see no reason why Poland would be any different.

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Dice
Edited by: Dice  Mar 6, 08, 08:37  #532

Julie, this way of thinking may be normal for Polish Americans in the States, but it's impossible to comprehend for Polish living in Poland.
Look at the title of this thread: it implies that Jews are going to take over Poland, and it is a some sort of an emergency. What's funny is that this is happening at the same time when millions of Polish are living and working all over Europe, and they receive help and tolerance wherever they go.
The words "double standard" come to mind, don't they?

JuliePotocka wrote:
Everyone is entitled to their own religion, and ways. I live near one of the biggest melting pots in S. Cali, where Catholics, Christians, Orthodox Jews and Muslims all live peacefully together, with a few Indian Sikhs, and Hindus. People here cover for each other's major religious days, so all is good.

I see no reason why Poland would be any different.

Maybe one day, but I seriously doubt it.

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Przemas
  Mar 6, 08, 08:44  #533

Dice wrote:
Julie, this way of thinking may be normal for Polish Americans in the States, but it's impossible to comprehend for Polish living in Poland.
Look at the title of this thread: it implies that Jews are going to take over Poland, and it is a some sort of an emergency. What's funny is that this is happening at the same time when millions of Polish are living and working all over Europe, and they receive help and tolerance wherever they go.
The words "double standard" comes to mind, doesn't it?



The two have absolutely nothing to do with each other, the Jews are asking for compensation, the Poles and immigrating.

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Dice
Edited by: Dice  Mar 6, 08, 08:51  #534

Poles are emigrating not immigrating, or to be exact, they are migrant workers. The point is tolerance as opposed to hatred.
BTW, aren't they Polish Jews?

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Przemas
  Mar 6, 08, 09:00  #535

Dice wrote:
The Poles are emigrating not immigrating, or to be exact, they are migrant workers. The point is tolerance as opposed to hatred.
BTW, aren't they Polish Jews?



Nope, many of them are decedents of Polish Jews. They are Israel Jews or American Jews. You want tolerance, understand then that us Poles were not in charge of our own Nation back then, there is no need to make us pay obscene amounts of money now for what foreign regimes did back then. That is where tolerance and common sense should arrive on the scene.

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JuliePotocka
  Mar 6, 08, 12:48  #536

Once again: the money was SET ASIDE by the UN, back in 1945. Why doesn't anyone understand this? It isn't coming from any Poles.

Yes, Dice; they are POLISH Jews.

Bah, it's like banging my head against a brick wall on this thread.

What color is the sky, in the little world of yours? Answer: Plaid. If not, go watch Tiny Toon Adventures enough, to where it is.

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Mar 6, 08, 13:32  #537

So this topic goes to the end.



Following repeated requests from the federation of Jewish communities in Poland the Interior Ministry announced on Monday that the regulations have been suitably revised, and that Israelis could now also regain their original Polish citizenship.


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EbonyandBathory
  Mar 6, 08, 13:33  #538

Doesn't anyone realize that just 100 years ago Poland was as diverse as any nation in Europe? Just 70 years ago? When Julie describes Southern California, it might as well be Poland in 1923. It was a giant melting pot of people of different faiths, creeds, and nationalities. What happened is due to giant powers on either side, Poland went from being one of the most diverse countries to one of the most homogenized. It's a shame, but all the people who thought differently or were different from the approved list of people from both Germany and Russia were forced out, left on their own, or were killed. Poland not long ago was as diverse and tolerant as can be, why couldn't it become this way once again?

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Mar 6, 08, 13:35  #539

EbonyandBathory wrote:
Poland not long ago was as diverse and tolerant as can be, why couldn't it become this way once again?


It seems that Poland form 1500 - 1939 is comming back.

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matthias
  Mar 6, 08, 14:18  #540

JuliePotocka wrote:
Mathias, like your 'Darkness' avatar, from Topcow, by Marc Sylvestri. ;>


Thanks

Dice wrote:
What's funny is that this is happening at the same time when millions of Polish are living and working all over Europe, and they receive help and tolerance wherever they go.
The words "double standard" come to mind, don't they?


Obvously you must not have heard of the racism Poles are experiencing in UK.

Przemas wrote:
Poles were not in charge of our own Nation back then, there is no need to make us pay obscene amounts of money now for what foreign regimes did back then.


Agreed, If anybody should compensate Jews, it should be Russians and Germans.

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