10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND!

2 wrongs never did seem to make a right tho

Only the 1st wrong counts in court of law....................

Must be easy (although boring) to live in a black and white world.


They were NOT SINGLED OUT. They awere ONE OF the ethnicities to be wiped out.

Before you say that you better look on the map and see what Poland used to be.

No, Poland was given the Kresy,(now Ukraine) but please look at what they lost.

If you go back they got the land back that they owned. Harry was Lwow in Poland?
Carol

So its partly right to steal.....which part...Mr 40 shades of grey?

So how many other ethnicities were part of the Final Solution........as opposed whole nations destroyed in the general mayhem and carnage of WWII?

All Polish were to destroyed.

Russia took out militay "Katyn". He then went after WW1 reserve, in this group were military front line that were given their property (in exchange for their medal for bravery" for free. Other Polish military were able to purchase this property from Poland for their service. It was Ukrainians and Jewish that helped point out where they lived. This area is now "Ukraine" or "Kresy".

You may remember the families fleeing to Iran in 1942-43 this was when amnest was granted and they could not go home. Therefore when others say our families had a choice and left, no they did not have a choice. We are Roman/Greek Catholic and Jewish. One thing we had in common, we were all Polish. Stalin's plan was to wipe out any poles, we ended up becoming slaves. Stalin never expected us to live. He just figured what the heck, I'll get some work done until they die. Many did die from conditions or murdered. Many more died on the trip out of Siberia or from diease they got from conditions. To this day many families are still in Siberia because they were unable to get out in a certian time frame. They report being treated poorly. Carol

Well said Carol, well said indeed.

Where can I found out more info on this Leszcynski who wrote this brief article?...I can find no background on him...also, he repeats the 'gas chamber' story...as far as I have read, there was never any evidence of gas chambers used for the purpose of mass murder by the Germans.

wtf? Poland lost the Kresy (incl. Lwow) after WWII and , Poland's borders were shifted westwards, pushing the eastern border to the Curzon line. Meanwhile, the western border was moved to the Oder-Neisse line. The new Poland emerged 20% smaller by 77,500 square kilometres (29,900 sq mi). The shift forced the migration of millions of people, most of whom were Poles, Germans, Ukrainians, and Jews.

curzonline.jpg

I was not clear, I was going to prior to first partition. Carol

I googled and in .11 seconds came up with/use his whole name.

1 - 10 of about 164,000 for Kazimierz Leszczynski .

Carol

Here is a site with:
ENGLISH SUMMARY
of the work by
Wladyslaw Siemaszko and Ewa Siemaszko

GENOCIDE
COMMITTED BY UKRAINIAN NATIONALISTS
ON THE POLISH POPULATION OF VOLHYNIA
DURING WORLD WAR II (1939-1945)

"genocide committed against the Polish population during those years. Poles were subjected to genocide - in various forms and on varying scales by the Germans, the Soviets, and the Ukrainians."
Please stop saying this was a "holocaust" and forget the whole story "Our forgotten Polish"



http://genocide007.webpark.pl/przedmowa_english.htm

Carol

Excuse me... why should I "compensate" you or other people, who haven't even lived here ?



Acording to the law existing then, they weren't stolen, they were legally taken away.

What you think our families took a nice little trip to a concentration camp in Siberia? Then because we were so refreshed we decided to build another army on Russian soil or beat feet to So. Africa to some Polish refugee camp for ha ha's.

Poland as rightful owners of the eastern lands gave and sold the property to Polish soilders WW1. My Grandfather built the houses on his property. It was his horse's and cattle he purchased. Carol

I repeat: acording to the law existing then, they were legally taken away, so "techniacally" It wasn't a crime that's why current owners are the legal owners and in case of any compensation in vast majority of cases that would have to be cash - taken away from Polish taxpayers of course and I don't see a reason why we should pay anyone from UK or USA.

Well, the fact that a small number of people have been successful in reclaiming property, and the fact that there is an established legal process for doing this suggests that even the Polish government recognises that what happened was not legal and/or right. So you were right to put "technically" in quote marks.

I also really don't understand why you think it make a difference where someone lives? Are you saying that only people born in Poland should be able to own property? And that they should have to give it back (to whom?) if they emigrate? It would be one way of solving the housing crisis I guess - all those empty houses/farms/flats left behind by the 2 million or so who are living it up in the UK...

To be honest, I can completely understand why it was impossible to even think about paying compensation up until this point in time, but now that Poland is becoming wealthier (NB thanks mainly to the massive EU investment in infrastructure and competitiveness) I think it's time to start thinking about how this can be done because the issue isn't going to go away. Every day I walk past a number of buildings here in Kazimierz that are crumbling because the owners can't be found and the city doesn't want to offend anyone by acting - it seems such a waste.

In some cases courts make such decisions, sometimes not.

... Poles, whose parents rebuilt this country (and now often have to look for food in trashes) and who working hard makes this country wealthier (influence of "EU investments" is minimal) should now "compensate" those "100% Polish" from UK, USA and elswhere ? You know what ? First let Americans give back all their land to the real owners and you British pay compensations to Negros and others, who had been terrorized and exterminated by you for centries and then I will think about "compensating" you, OK ?



200 million...

LMAO,what the heck have you been reading then? No gas chambers indead!!!!!!!
Coming back and claiming something after so long,ludecrous,totaly bonkers.

Eh,where do I start with that? er,Britain led the way in outlawing slavery while you guys still had indentured serfs working the slachtas lands. Our war in the Sudan was to stop the slave trade being carried out by blacks against blacks,the Boar war largley came about because the british in SA disapproved of the Affrikaneers treatments of blacks etc etc..........ho hum,just keep trotting out the same old same old........


eh,the entire UK population is under 70 million,or are you just taking the Pee out of him G'?

You had colonies until mid 20th centuries.



Her.

Why didn't the british government take the above facts into account and decided to pay blacks that compensation?

Before the war Polish magnats and Jewish were the reachest in Poland they own buildings casstles and USED the rest of population to work as a labour for not more then just soup....Germans started the war and commit the bigest crime in the world against humans. Engalnd, USA France all new what is going on before milions of people were dying every day in gas chambers(someone should do the trip to Aushwizt). Comunism influensed by Russia took Poland after war. Polish population was in slavery before the war, during the war and after...Who is guilty for all the lost properties, Germans? Other countries which didnt react earlier? Russia? Poland? All of them I gues.

no doubt about it,but,if we had been so busy slaughtering them all do you think they would mostly still be in the Commenwealth.Sorry,as usual most of the killing done was black on black so rascism didnt really come into it.


Im sorry, what ?What compensation? look again at the post you quoted from.. Ill spell it out slowly for you.....T h e B R I T I S H invaded the Sudan in order to STOP the arab blacks enslaving the non arab/muslim blacks. Just who should "we" pay compensation to,the Slave owners? As for SA( south africa in case you didnt get it) considering that SA has been a soverigin state,run by Affricaneers ,since the turn of the last centruy,and the only time rascist laws or seggregation were used was during that time,or prior in Boar states ,what does britain owe exactly to the people of south africa,if anything the Dutch owe them because the boars came from holland.....

Justice after confiscation
Restitution of Communal and Private Property in Central and Eastern Europe
Stuart Eizenstat


http://www.law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol6num2/special/eizenstat.html

Obviously you do not know the history of your own country or you want deliberately mislead more ignorant users of this forum.

Even the british church is considering paying reparations for slavery:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,,2043060,00.html

Are you trying to tell us that the brits have never been involved in slave trade?

yeah... think there was a chap called william wilberforce who had something to do with it

Samros, with all due respect, how do you really expect us too believe this when we see how your government has occupied palestinian territories and bulldozed down more and more innocent family houses to create more sapce for your illegal settlers.

Interestingly, we have not heard of Germans suing the Russians in the Strasbourg court, only the Poles. Must Poland continue to pay for Hitler’s war?

http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~sarmatia/407/272our%20take.html

This is because Germany depends on Russia for natural gas & oil, and is heavily investing
in the Baltic pipeline project with them.

I think it's about time Russia paid vs. Poland.