10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND!

yes............. and we all get shit on the stick

lol after waiting since 1944, you could be right. My grandfather died, but I know he would want this taken care of in his name even if the shi* is donated to a few school books for Polands schools. Carol

Poland was free when it intorduced laws banning Jews from universities and certain professions. Remember?

Are you refering to right before Germany attacked. And if I recall were killing off all Polish educated persons. Help me out here with dates? Thanks, Carol

I found this, does this help?



http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/timeline.html

In my "The Black Book of Poland" by Putnan 1942 I have a list of the deaths taking place,1939-41 because they were trying to destroy Polish. It's also on line and a great book of facts.

Carol.

Remember the ND party from the 30s. This was before the German occupation.

This from Wikipedia:

In the newly independent Second Polish Republic, the ND was represented first by Związek Ludowo-Narodowy (the National Populist Union), and from 1928 by Stronnictwo Narodowe (the National Party). A chief characteristic of ND policies was their emphasis on Polonization of minorities: ND politicians such as Dmowski and Stanisław Grabski contributed to the failure of Piłsudski's proposed Międzymorze federation and of the alliance with the Ukrainian leader Symon Petlura, and to the alienation of Poland's ethnic minorities. After Piłsudski's May 1926 Coup d'État, the ND found itself in constant opposition to his Sanation regime. To fight the Sanation movement, the ND created Obóz Wielkiej Polski (the Great Poland Camp).
Simultaneously the ND emphasized its anti-Semitic program, aimed at excluding Jews from Polish social and economic life and ultimately at pushing them to emigrate from Poland[citation needed]. Antisemitic actions and incidents ? boycotts, demonstrations, even pogroms ? organized or inspired by National Democrats mounted in the 1930s[citation needed]. The most notorious actions were taken by radical young NDs who formed the fascist-inspired, antisemitic National Radical Camp (ONR) [2]

And... ?

I think you can safely say that Karma has come to bite you in the you know where. I can't think of anywhere or any country that polish people go and after a certain amount of time may claim citizenship :) Can you ? lol

The Polish numerus clausus law was passed in 1923 but not introduced until 1937 (one of the League of Nations' few sucesses). Also in 1937 both the association of Polish doctors and the association of Polish lawyers introduced rules limiting new membership to Christians only. From 1936 onwards many government jobs were not available to Jews.



Gosh, let me see, which countries do I know of where Polese I personally know have gone and then claimed citizenship after a certain amount of time? Hmm, the UK, the USA, Australia, Canada, South Africa, Finland, Switzerland, Kuwait, France, Cyprus, most places I've been to actually....

exactly you've added to my point, thanks

And...
That shows that Polish people didn't become hostile to Jews as a result of the german occupation or any other excuse. They were hostile before that. Some reasons:
a- they saw the jews as competition, and b-because the jews were demonized by the polish church, and c- because polish nationalism was based on ethnicity which exccluded jews.

Just look at the comments in this forum to see irrational, paranoid attitudes toward jews even though there are practically none left in Poland.

Well sir... using "anti-semitism" as offensive weapon is nothing new for us but next time be more careful because you may easily die from the weapon you use...

You were so kind to remind us some things from the 30s, so now maybe let's take a look at something from modern times...













Do you want me to go on ?

You quoted articles about meir Kahana, who was considered an extreist in Israel and was therefore banned from the parliament. Anyone can find a quote to justify any argument. That's meaningless. I'm talking about mainstream polish political parties in the 30s. Do you deny that the ND were antisemitic? They were very open about being against the jews.
But that's in the past. Let's talk about today: Why do some Poles (and you seem to be one of them) hate jews today when we are no longer living in poland and have no role at all in polish politics or economy? Isn't that paranoia?

Also about the party which is in Knesset and in coalition government and about the former PM.



Because we are evil. Yawn...

What does that answer mean?

Although I don't think that many Poles have problem with Jews, many from those you have is provoked by Jewish internal (Michnik and company, "if you disagree with us, you are anti-Semitic" attitude) and external (JWC, huge compensation demands plus revisionist comments) forces. A Jew, Normal Finkelstein wrote some books on this issue.

Only proves my anisemitism. What else could that mean ?

You're doing the same thing you think I'm doing: You think I'm rejecting your argument by labelling it "antisemitic". So you reject my argument by labelling it as an accusation of "antisemitism".

But I'm saying something factual: There are many Poles who still hate Jews even though no Jews are in Poland any more. What is their problem?

Thanks, just what I was thinking.



I think you are not looking at the bigger picture. Yes the Jewish people were victims, not the only ones though. I could go into the sin's of the Jewish toward Catholics, it would not serve to change the past. Hitlers plan was for all Polish and how many years have we heard of only the Jewish.

Maybe the Jewish need to hear of the crimes on all the people of Poland. My family is Roman Catholic and our family members were also victims. Can you tell me my pain is less because I an not Jewish?

Carol

Strange people, innit? Just as strange as some people living in Israel and still complaining about the anti-semitic Poles. Poles are non existent in Israel, so what’s their problem? :)

They don't like Aaron Spelling's TV shows.

Matyjasz,
If this were a forum about Israel and I kept bringing up Polish attitudes about Jews you would be right - I would have a problem. But I entered this forum about Poland, and before I wrote a single post, all over the place i see posts that talk about Jews - that they want to come back to Poland, that the "commie Jews" are still in Poland, that we're not really Jews but Khazars... and list goes on. And it's mostly nasty stuff. So I'm reacting. I'm pointing out that some of you have a Jew complex. You stop talking about Jews and I'll stop. I came into this place to learn more about Poland. I already know about Jews.

Grzegorz,
I don't like Aaron Spelling either. I'll bring that up at the next meeting of the Elders of Zion.

There are 2 topics out of hundreds at least and both were started by non-Poles.



But he's dead.

I wasn't thinking about you. I'm saying something factual: There are many Jews who hate Poles even though Poles are virtually non-existent in their lifes. :)

As for anti-semitism in Poland, I think you should hear the voice of the main rabbi of Poland, Michael Schudrich, who said:

"Rozpowszechnione na świecie stereotypy są całkowicie nieprawdziwe. Kraje kojarzone z antysemityzmem, czyli niestety również Polska, w rzeczywistości wcale takie nie są. Antysemickie zachowania występują natomiast na liberalnym, wolnym Zachodzie."

"[Those] distributed stereotypes are totally untrue. Countries that are associated with anti-semitism, which unfortunately includes also Poland, are not anti-semite in reality. Whereas anti-semitic behaviors are present in liberal, free west."

Taking under consideration the fact that he actually lives in Poland he surely knows what he is saying, innit?

So we need to wait couple of years till you grow up... :)



The west is hardly liberal and probably the worst situation is in socialistic hole called France (mostly internal Semitic clashes by the way)

If most poles are not antisemitic that's good news.
Despite what you might think, I've been to Poland and have no complaints about the people I met. I had no experience with antisemitism (except for grafitti with a gallows hanging a star of david, and "Poland for the Poles" scribbles). I met a few Poles that were extremely friendly and hospitable, in Krakow, Lodz and in my grandfathers town, Warta. In speaking to some people I noticed a heavy pause, a hesitation, when they understood that I was from Israel. But no outright hostility. I don't need everyone to love Jews. But when I come across bigotry, as I did in some posts here, I confront it.

Perhaps this is what you really want to see? Otherwise you could notice that almost all people spreading anti-Jewish propaganda here aren't from Poland. This is English language forum...

Aren't from Poland? You don't sound so friendly to me.

It could be explained by Newton's third law.