is it that my love is worthless? (a sad heart)

Now I really do have to jump off here.....I think I need a nice hot bath Have a wonderful night!

thanks... enjoy your bath... beer's in the fridge...

I'm from England and I was once dating a Polish girl. I met her on the internet. She got in contact with me via an internet English-speaking penpals website. She first got in contact with me in early 2003, and we kept in contact from time to time over the next two years. At first I treated her as nothing more than a penpal, and I think she did me. I then noticed her emails getting more and more frequent, and she telephoned me when she was in England on a training course (she was an English teacher). We agreed to meet up in London in August 2004, but as fate would have it I was paid off work and couldn't afford it. I had to cancel and she was very disappointed, although she still did go on holiday there with her friend. Time passed, and eventually January 2005 came, and we sent each other our photographs (believe it or not we didn't know what each other looked like). I liked the look of her and she seemed to like the look of me. Anyway, I visited her in March 2005 for five days. I met her on a cold March evening at Warsaw airport. It was a day I shall remember for the rest of my existence. She looked absolutely stunning, and I thought she was a model. She was about 5ft 6, 8 stone, size 8 figure, very well-dressed, beautiful blonde hair and gorgeous brown eyes. I fell in love with her appearance there and then. I was smitten. She had come to pick me up with her father, and he drove us the four hour drive to the town that they live in called Gniewkowo. I experienced Polish culture, the food, the tv, the church going. I also went to a couple of beautiful Polish towns, Torun and Bydgoscscz. There was no romance on the holiday, which I initially felt a bit disappointed with, but then thought it was only the first time that we'd met and she also lived with her parents in a tiny flat, so she would have been embarassed anyway. Anyway I visited her four more times, and romance developed. She came to visit me in England last Summer and stayed at my house for six weeks. I thought that she had had a good holiday as she was never bored and I took her everywhere I could. I seen her off at Newcastle airport on the 25th August 2006. We kissed, she looked back and waved goodbye and was gone. I had tears in my eyes on the journey home. Little did I realise that this would be the last time I would probably ever see her in my life. She ended it on the 5th October 2006, after a phonecall when I realised something probably wasn't right. It ended on the note that we didn't have enough in common (I thought we did), I hadn't learned much of her language (which was true, but I've never been one for languages and I was going to start a Polish course in October), and the final main thing was that she seen her future in Poland living with her mother and father in a house that they had bought and were moving into in the summer. She also had her job there which she wasn't going to give up. After all the declarations of love she gave me, her wanting to marry me and have a child with me eventually, she ended it quite brutally, honestly to give her credit, but in a way that an assassin would have been proud to have celebrated a kill in. She did send me a Christmas card, but there was no love or affection in it, just like a friend (which I can never be with her), so I sent her quite a horrible text message on Xmas day. To finish, this has left me emotionally devastated, my health has suffered in the last four months with depression, lack of appetite, and minor illnesses. It is something I have never gotten closure on, there are no women which even compare to certain aspects of her where I live. Anyway, I still love her, but any future with her looks unlikely as she didn't want to be with me in the end, and she is probably in a relationship now in Poland but i don't want to know about her and I will probably want any man with her dead. I've also wished her dead as she has totally ruined me in an emotional sense. I wonder if there are many men out there who have had there hearts broken by a Polish woman, and how they coped with it.

Mate, do you think you could edit your post (or admin for that matter) and add a few paragraphs, that's like a punch in the face.

Thanks.

Huegel, you definitely are going to hell I'm saving a whole package of frankfurters for you.

But to our friend, Pete74, go back and read Huegel's post where he tells about the woman who said, "you love me; well that's your problem." There is something to be said for that. Don't be a victim. We all have had heartbreak (and probably broken a few hearts, too).....it's a part of life. If you look at relationships as part of a growth process, it might help. Look at the relationship and try to figure out what you can learn from it instead of holding onto hatred. There's a reason she was in your life---probably to prepare you for the next one that comes along. One thing I have found is until we learn our lessons in life, we keep making the same mistakes over and over.

i know what your going through pete...im going through a simalar sort of situation...but a hell of a lot more complicated....just remember..things wont be like this forever.

That's the right attitude, mickus......you are going to be just fine!

For Ranj And Huegel ... different attitudes for the TWO sad people in this thread! ...
... ... I wonder why!....do you know why?

I wanna say more... but I feel bad myself as I didnt like the first post (when I had others hitting that guy too, when i felt bad for him ~ and tried to get him outta here)...also I dont like this one (which is worse, as he texed her bad), but I see you two people reacting so different.

Many thoughts r coming to my mind... making me sick... Please Tell Me that YOU TWO are not Polish!

This is worse that a physical assault on a broken hearted.



I think he was silly yes!.....but I dont agree on that!!!

Not sure I understand what you are talking about, LS, but the responses I gave to both posters were matter of fact.


Please explain yourself.

Explain yourself Ranj... its too much on this one. You agreed on A on calling the first guy full of sh$t.... but for this one was a different attitude all together.

And ya.... the first one was not European (white Christian for that matter), however, the second one is blessed in that context.

These kind of upsetting to say the least...very few, but older people in Poland can go like that...saw it here too now I feel. I feel bad when I see such kind of unequality.

Anyways.... my friends here...university....and anywhere else....we dont treat different...I am proud of Lodz!

I dont intend to argue on this one... I just know....this forum might be called POLISHFORUMS.... but all here are not Polish .... majority is not Polish!

on Post#69 ... the first QUOTE was from Huegel

I hope you are not suggesting that I gave my responses based on cultural differences....in fact, I hadn't noticed there was one until you pointed it out.....as for my agreeing with Amathyst, it was based on what the NON REGISTERED poster had to say after his initial post....if you look, I was the first one to respond with sincere intentions. So please get your facts straight before you go accusing me of being socially biased. I'm an equal opportunity poster!

Ranj,

Maybe that is why he is upset, because he probably felt you were not that type
person and had deep respect for your posts then you went off in another direction
and he felt it was insensitive ?

I think were all guilty of saying things which are hurtful, I have and do regret, it
isnt fun, right now I am watching my daughter fight with a broken heart
it dont matter what age you are, it hurts and it always helps to find comfort in
others, those who surround you and you need the most.

I dont think you were trying to be, but on here, we cant look someone in the eye
or can we?? and see how genuine their posts are.

LS Take a deep breath. Now, does that feel better? Good, ok. What is it that you wish to say to me? I'm listening, well reading.

so maybe it was all misunderstanding ????

I think that was a hateful thing to say not to mention somewhat conceited. I thought you were a nice person, LS? What gives?

I wasn't trying to be hurtful, I was just basing my response on my own experience. I have found that when someone is truthful and not coddling me, I am able to get over the hurt much quicker (the pain is there regardless....we all go through it). I understand what you are saying though Pat and I appreciate your thoughts on the matter.

this, was pure anger, I do think this is a misunderstanding, your all good
people.

gosh, how differnt are we, its amazing how things can be said and someone might
not fully understand our way of life compared to theirs, yet at times we are all so
much alike

(group hug)

I think you are right.....things seem to get "lost in translation" when posted on the net as opposed to live conversation.

That's what I love about you, Pat....always a positive outlook

Big hug back 'atcha

It was not.

I have not told you that I am a person - or came here to be appreciated as a nice person. I only came here with myself.

No one can be a nice person for everyone. I am myself, and I have my thoughts, my opinions and my personality.

Yes. I am Polish, I live here and was born here. I love this world, and I love my Poland too. I hope no Polish develops emotions which are biased. AND I am so happy to tell you that I do not find biased emotions among my friends (who also have good and bad in them). Those who act biased, I hope they improce in their life. I hope they are not Polish. So... again... with that kind of biased behaviour...I sure did/do hope...you two were not Polish. Which I suppose you arent.

With this...whichever way you think of me, ... I have always been the same.

Being a nice person for everyone is not being honest to your soul. Being honest to your soul is being nice (or whatever you want to call it).

I know what your saying Ranj. Been there, and totally understand. I think hes
coming from a different angle though, The sensitive one, and truthfully, where
we live, the guyz (many) are not like the ones were meeting on here

European men are much more in tune with women dats not a bad thing at all!!!

Please show me where I have been biased----I truly am curious?

"Being a nice person for everyone is not being honest to your soul. Being honest to your soul is being nice"

I completely agree with that and that's why I was honest with both posters.

ok dear Brother, now, dont get upset, let me try to sort this out somewhat

Huegel (from his post #64) was saying that to add few paragraphs, because
his post was very long and the "punch in face comment" was like joking because
it is very hard on the eyes. (humor is hard to catch in all cultures) me being the
one left scratching my head at times cause i didnt get it lol. shhhh dont tell
anyone lol

got nothing to say to you. You, perhaps, intelligent enough to think about it yourself!

Why argue. I am basically upset that I am talking about this now...and how i wrote to the FIRST sad person in my first post (which was not abusive...but also not very sensitive). I hope I never know how BOTH the sad people are feeling.

We all are judges to ourselves actually. I am nobody to judge. ... so see that for yourself...I am out of this thread!

leaving the thread....not the forum!

ok, I figured it out. I know and feel what the problem is, I put two and two together
and dear brother, i know how you are feeling, maybe there is more reasons why
Miranda left, she did post, we do need to talk. because I know you are angry and
it wasnt Ranj's fault Miranda left. we all want her back including Ranj

good least you are still ok