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miranda
  May 5, 07, 07:27  #121

Quoting: sparrow
Those are some very nice clichés that'd be great in a poetry book but I doubt it

I said in my post that you might take it this way:)
Quoting: sparrow
I have yet to meet a woman that is not shallow or superficial in my life. Wish me luck.

define NOT SHALLOW please

 
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daffy
  May 5, 07, 07:32  #122

luck, but if you met my GF you'd understand that they exist :)

 
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witek
  May 5, 07, 08:59  #123

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Aaah.. story of my life. Unfortunately being charming funny & smart gets you nowhere :(


i'm not a bad looking guy sparrow but charm and wit also help in life

 
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sparrow
Edited by: sparrow  May 5, 07, 09:04  #124

Quoting: miranda
Quoting: sparrow
I have yet to meet a woman that is not shallow or superficial in my life. Wish me luck.

define NOT SHALLOW please



That's actually a very good question since it's much easier to describe shallow than "not shallow".

Hmmm... I don't see any other way to describe it but to describe shallow & put "not" in front, hope you forgive me :)

Someone who's intrested in more than just chit-chat and gossip. Not the celebrity-tabloid reading kind. Someone who has a deeper intrest in aspects of human life.. such as literature, psychology, philosophy, art, music, politics, etc.. (just listing things I like but that can be sooo much things.. sports.. whatever..) Conversation that extends to more than just daily events

Someone who doesn't talk like "OMG LIEK I WAS LIEK AT TEH MALL YESTERDAY LIEK I SAW DIZ CUTE GUY LOLLL"

Someone who is not materialistic. Who's not after a guy with the newest sports car, a swimming pool in the garden.. who doesn't care if that's a Hugo Boss blazer or a H&M one.. Who knows to enjoy someone's company more than his money.

Someone who doesn't judge people by the way they look. I can't count the ammount of women I met going "yeah my boyfriend has to be tall.. men above 185cm etc..(6feet i think)" That's just so insanely superficial, it's unbelievable. What if Mr. Perfect is 170cm or over 2 metres tall? They'll never know since they'll never give em a chance.
They have this idealised romantic vision of a top model with a phd in rocket science. Sometimes I feel like beating some sense into them. (not literally) :-)
(This applies to men as well btw, know a lot of guys who "only do blondes")

Someone who doesn't want to be fitted in the expectations of society or in stereotypes. For example: a woman who wants to be a housewife. I don't dream of having a bra-burning feminist by my side. But there's more to life than just be fitted in the role of a housewife because "the others" expect it. Why lead a superficial life if you can enjoy life to it's fullest? Respect to those that chose to do so, but just not my cup o' tea.

Someone who has a broad open-minded spirit. No prejudices.. racism.. gay-bashing.. communist.. fascist.. Live & let live.

Last but not least. Not someone who wants to undergo cosmetic surgery because she thinks she looks like shite or her breasts are too small or whatever. You're fine just as you are darling!


Probly tons of other things too.. but you get the idea..

 
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sparrow
  May 5, 07, 09:10  #125

Quoting: witek
i'm not a bad looking guy sparrow but charm and wit also help in life



I dare say I'm a funny witty guy. Years ago I used to do stand-up routines in local pubs, not an international succes but I got laughs & applause. But all the sense of humour & charm in the world won't help you get a girlfriend/boyfriend if they don't feel attracted to you in the first place.

 
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miranda
Edited by: miranda  May 5, 07, 10:06  #126

Quoting: sparrow
Probly tons of other things too.. but you get the idea..

Yes, I do. Thank you for your answer.

My guess is that perhaps you were dating the wrong type of women;)

 
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sparrow
  May 5, 07, 10:07  #127

I'm not getting any dates lol.. that's the problem. But that's a different thread altogether...

 
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angel eyes
  May 5, 07, 10:09  #128

Quoting: sparrow
I'm not getting any dates lol..

Is it any wonder:o)

 
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miranda
  May 5, 07, 10:11  #129

Quoting: sparrow
I'm not getting any dates lol.. that's the problem.

most people don't either. May I ask why?

 
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Decorator
  May 5, 07, 10:15  #130

Woo Hoo !!!!! i'm not shallow... get in there!!! (oops does modesty qualify as shallow?)

 
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miranda
  May 5, 07, 10:17  #131

Quoting: Decorator
Woo Hoo !!!!! i'm not shallow... get in there!!! (oops does modesty qualify as shallow?)

Dec,
you know you are special, so a little lack of modesty doesn't bother me at all:)

 
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Decorator
  May 5, 07, 10:27  #132

And a nice wink to you ;-)

 
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LoneStranger
Edited by: Admin  May 5, 07, 10:30  #133

Quoting: sparrow
who can't take criticism

I welcome criticle thinking. But I have described you in the exact way that you behaved. You could give logic, but you just described a Holy Book as unscientific, just because you lack the capacity to understand and go through its depths.

This makes me remember of the comments you made on races. Where your 'CODE BREAKING AND EUREKA' was just to save your flawed debate. In that later post you have accepted that Indians and Persians are same race, and still you like to call the Persian are Caucasian (which is baseless). ... But ofcourse... your greatest weapon.. your dating website...

Anyways...

Quoting: sparrow
every time that you don't agree with it, there wouldn't be much point of having a forum.

When we dont agree with something, we discuss here. We dont attack the other person, or just make comments which are blasphemus.

Quoting: sparrow
The bible or any other holy book is just neither modern nor a scientific book! It was written 2000 years ago, based on a society & beliefs of 2000 years ago.

If you read my post (over which you commented), you will see that I have already mentioned that "However, it is one of the messeges of God, appropriate for the time it came for. It is a very modern and scientific Book, for its particular time." . Perhaps, if you really were interested to read before hurrying yourself into a comment, then you would know that I understand about the Bible being 2000 years old.

However, I stick to my belief that the Bible is a very scientific book.

From the past few discussions with you, I feel you dont read any information... but constantly try to conclude that you are CORRECT... in any circumstance. This behaviour is very distressing, and logic seems to fail here.

However, I will put down a note over why I think that Bible is a scientific book.

Let us take one point over which some people conclude that the Bible is nothing but a fairy tale. ...

THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST IN THREE DAYS:

The resurrections of the Divine Manifestations are not of the body. All Their states, Their conditions, Their acts, the things They have established, Their teachings, Their expressions, Their parables and Their instructions have a spiritual and divine signification, and have no connection with material things. For example, there is the subject of Christ's coming from heaven: it is clearly stated in many places in the Gospel that the Son of man came from heaven, He is in heaven, and He will go to heaven. So in chapter 6, verse 38, of the Gospel of John it is written: "For I came down from heaven"; and also in verse 42 we find: "And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he said, I came down from heaven?" Also in John, chapter 3, verse 13: "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but He that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."


rt66.com/~kjherman/5ROC.html

For religion is progressive like everything created by God... For every age, there is a revealation which is adequate for that particular age. These revealations come in harmony, carrying with the a clear trail... which is a very significant proof of the Existance of a Common, Eternal, Singular, Loving and Devine God.

My belief: One God, One World, One Man... and I will not go an inch back from it!

To the Admin: When I write/speak....I do that in detail. I ask you to keep this post here (and not delete it thinking its going out... ). Religion often plays the unfortunate role in creating barriers... while the role of religion is to unite hearts. It is unacceptable if two people cannot live with each other due to RELIGION!...

And the truth of Religion is simple, calm, cool, and devine... as pure as Love :)

 
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sparrow
  May 5, 07, 10:31  #134

Quoting: miranda
most people don't either. May I ask why?



Yeah you may, sure, but I really don't want to turn this into a melodrama about me. Basically.. no one's intrested.. If I talk to a girl she's just clearly not intrested. Not a single girl I talked to comes round the 2nd time to say "hi" or whatever.. And I'm really not being an arrogant bastard I swear :)

The mailboxes on the dating sites I'm on are still pretty much empty.. I mean I even thought about"buying" me one of them Thai mail order brides .. :-\ How pathetic is that? (not to mention shallow lol)
Anyway, I haven't dated / had gf in the past 4 years.. almost 5 so I got used to it. And with every year that goes by it gets harder.. I mean.. If I was to say to a girl "I haven't dated in the past 4 years" that's an auto-rejection right there :)

 
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LoneStranger
  May 5, 07, 10:33  #135

Quoting: miranda
miranda

The wise one :kiss: :)

 
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LoneStranger
  May 5, 07, 10:35  #136

Quoting: sparrow
sparrow

Be more calm, understanding... and follow learn to listen ;) ... welcome... care more. Learn to love... you will find love.

 
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miranda
  May 5, 07, 10:40  #137

Quoting: Decorator
And a nice wink to you ;-)

thanks,
Dec, if I say that you accept youself the way yoy are would that be a sweeping statement?

 
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LoneStranger
  May 5, 07, 10:40  #138

rt66.com/~kjherman/5ROC.html

Here is what I wanted you to read. An inspirational explanation... it interests me.

 
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miranda
  May 5, 07, 10:40  #139

Quoting: LoneStranger
The wise one :kiss: :)

thanks hun, the same to you:)

 
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miranda
Edited by: miranda  May 5, 07, 10:45  #140

Quoting: sparrow
The mailboxes on the dating sites I'm on are still pretty much empty.. I mean I even thought about"buying" me one of them Thai mail order brides .. :-\ How pathetic is that? (not to mention shallow lol)

that would be a culture clash to say the least, not to mention the way of getting a bride which I am totally against. It's like purchasing a merchendise:)
Quoting: sparrow
If I was to say to a girl "I haven't dated in the past 4 years" that's an auto-rejection right there :)

you don't have to say it on the first date, nor on the second date, perhaps later. Why expose yourself to judgement in that way?

 
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sparrow
Edited by: sparrow  May 5, 07, 11:02  #141

Quoting: LoneStranger
I welcome criticle thinking. But I have described you in the exact way that you behaved. You could give logic, but you just described a Holy Book as unscientific, just because you lack the capacity to understand and go through its depths.


No. You described as first a Holy Book as a scientific piece withouth backing it up with logic.
And I said it wasn't. Because it isn't. You clearly have no idea of what a scientific book is. I dare you to describe to me one scientific biblical fact.

What is the scientific explanation between splitting a sea in 2? Multiplying fishes & bread?

I respect everyone's beliefs, I truly do. But don't call Holy Books works of science, they aren't. And if they are, please back it up, I'd be happy to hear it.

But please explain it in simple English words. I might lack the capacities to understand it.

Quoting: LoneStranger
This makes me remember of the comments you made on races. Where your 'CODE BREAKING AND EUREKA' was just to save your flawed debate. In that later post you have accepted that Indians and Persians are same race, and still you like to call the Persian are Caucasian (which is baseless). ... But ofcourse... your greatest weapon.. your dating website...


You still haven't got it. I'll do one more effort.

The "Code breaking Eureka" part is where I understood why we disagreed. For you "Caucasian" had only one definition which is an inhabitant of the Caucasus. But it has another definition which is that of the "white race" of people. All along you were thinking I meant people of the Caucasus, so I cleared that up. Look it up, it's in the dictionary.

As far as Persians & Indians, I have always said that Persians & Indians are the same race. Before even engaging in the conversation with you (page 2, reply #32, you can check it)

Persians ARE Caucasians. But again, I'm not talking about inhabitants of the Caucasus but the other meaning of the word. Caucasian is one of the 5 races on earth. I strongly urge you to look it up.

The dating website was to give you an example of the use of race distinction & the word Caucasian as a race in every-day life. Apparently the constant repeating of the dating-site thing seems to be your strongest weapon. As I have arguemented the whole darn thing pretty well.

Quoting: LoneStranger
When we dont agree with something, we discuss here. We dont attack the other person, or just make comments which are blasphemus.


I don't consider saying to someone he's out of his mind to be an attack or something rude. If you do you should grow a thicker skin.

As far as the blasphemy, I wasn't being blasphemist. But I understand religion is a hot topic & people with strong beliefs like yourself don't take criticism on their beliefs very easily. That's not an attack, I understand your point of view on that. If I came across as blasphemist I honestly apologise.
However, at the end of the day, it doesn't make me an immoral person or one without any ethics.


Quoting: LoneStranger
However, I stick to my belief that the Bible is a very scientific book.

However, I will put down a note over why I think that Bible is a scientific book.


There's nothing in what you wrote or quoted that proves it's a scientific work. It's a version of the resurection of Christ. Not a catholic one that's for sure, but I don't know where it's from. One thing is sure it has nothing to do with science.

Quoting: LoneStranger
The meaning is that though, apparently, Christ was born from the womb of Mary, in reality He came from heaven, from the center of the Sun of Reality, from the Divine World, and the Spiritual Kingdom.


See, the only way Jesus could have been born was through a womb. That's the only way a human can be born. Female egg + Male sperm = baby. Now THAT'S a scientific fact. By saying he came from "The Sun of Reality" you just proved the opposite! Don't you get it?

As for the last part you wrote, I respect that. I have nothing against religion. I come from Poland, my entire family are made out of hard-line catholics. I grew up going to church twice a week and I learnt to respect their beliefs & opinions. But never, ever call a religion science. A religion is a belief.

Admin: for the love of God (pun!) please don't delete/move this, the on-topicness of this thread has been botched anyway & it's an intresting convo. Your shot though.

 
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sparrow
Edited by: sparrow  May 5, 07, 11:04  #142

Quoting: miranda
that would be a culture clash to say the least, not to mention the way of getting a bride which I am totally against. It's like purchasing a merchendise:)


Same here, not only it's totally respectless.. but you haven't even met her in the first place lol.. Who knows she might be Bridezilla lol

Quoting: miranda
you don't have to say it on the first date, nor on the second date, perhaps later. Why expose yourself to judgement in that way?


Yeah I don't say that obviously :)

 
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LoneStranger
  May 5, 07, 12:20  #143

Quoting: sparrow
5 races on earth

The deeper we study, the better we know of everything. There are more races. The molecule is made of many atoms... and the atom has smaller particles aswell.

Quoting: sparrow
a version of the resurection of Christ. Not a catholic one that's for sure, but I don't know where it's from. One thing is sure it has nothing to do with science.

Science is logic.

Quoting: sparrow
withouth backing it up with logic

I did back it up with logic. I gave a view of the spirit... A spiritual view. If you cannot take that ... you will probably not be able to accept God (the Holy Spirit). If (perhaps) you do not believe in God. Then things are more criticle.

Quoting: sparrow
people with strong beliefs like yourself don't take criticism on their beliefs very easily.

Why will I not be able to take valid criticism?
I only refuse submitting to ignorance.

Quoting: sparrow
I dare you to describe to me one scientific biblical fact.

You dont have to dare me. We are not gangsters... just simple people.

However...

I have given you my view (which does not disturb the harmony of science) in my earlier post. If I try to explain these two topics (as proposed by you), they will also be put forward by me through the same means. The means of logic and spirituality. And the core of science is logic... hence... my previous explanation was very scientific.

When Moses divided the Sea into two, with the help of his stick... it was a symbolic move. His stick, the heart of His powers... was also symbolic in all direction. If you argue to give you a explanation that the stick in fact turned into a material snake, this would be the most false thing in the world.

First let us turn to the stick. I will keep it simple. The stick was non-other than the power of God, given to Moses. The power of truth and reality. The power of knowledge and spirituality. The power which is the creator of science, religion and morality. The Teaching Of God... directed towards mankind...for salvation in that particular time.

This Teaching swallowed all wits, all superstition... its logic was like a huge snake that could swallow all the lesser wits (cunning attempts) by his devine/accurite and perfect knowledge about human/humanity/religion and salvation. It was the light that dispels the darkness of superstition.

Now, this symbolical stick...which Moses carried... was to guide those who had faith in God, His Messege and His Holy Book. Through the sea of ignorance, superstition, wits and confusion... The Lord led His believers towards the Promised Land. While the Pharoe, and his followers... chose to dwell in that sea...and be crushed by it. As this sea closes bringing catastrophy... to those who fail to follow the Divine Truth.

If you can understand my method of thinking, and if you can read what I write... then I do not need to write more on any topic which you 'DARE' me.

Now if you still argue that it is all illogical... then alas! ... I do not see any way that you will grasp it.

Quoting: sparrow
I have always said that Persians & Indians are the same race.

If so, then why do the East Indian and Persian have to click on different buttons in your cherished dating site. Or, if the Persian must click Caucasian, the East Indian should be given the same opportunity. Because afterall... they are the same race :).

Now, if the Persian has no other place to click (due to them having less population). They can click on East Indian. This can also be aplicable to Afghanistan.

Or...ask your dating site administrator to make a new button... which says: Indo-Aryan (Protto-Indo_Iranian) race.

An Arab can call himself an Arab... no matter is he is from Yemen or Iraq.

It just describes the lack of knowledge the dating site has. It only wants to somehow classify people and get their business started.

Quoting: sparrow
inhabitants of the Caucasus

Causasus and beyond it.

Quoting: sparrow
By saying he came from "The Sun of Reality" you just proved the opposite! Don't you get it?

Nope. I didnt proove anything other than what I was ought to explain. If you read closely, with a mind free of preconceived ideas... and ability to accept logic in all its forms... then you would not say it. The things is... the fact of the Divinity of God is first and foremost important. And the acceptance that God does everything according to science and logic, is also important.

All other superstition is ... ofcourse...superstition.

Quoting: sparrow
That's the only way a human can be born

Jesus was a Messenger of God. A class higher than human.

Quoting: sparrow
A religion is a belief.

Yes... and in harmony with science.

Quoting: sparrow
hard-line catholics

Anything hardline is unfortunate. It creats extremism.... either one way or the other.

Quoting: miranda
that would be a culture clash to say the least

Which culture?... One home often harbours one particular culture in our modern age. Everything is possible...if there is love.

 
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Patrycja19
  May 5, 07, 12:28  #144

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I dare you to describe to me one scientific biblical fact.


noahs ark.

 
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Patrycja19
  May 5, 07, 12:42  #145

The holy grayl <~spelling?

dont know if I am using correct term , help me out someone, the cloth to which
he was wrapped and it was tested for age and to see if it was replica or real macoy
science is definately involved with religion as religion is also involved with science
and all the miracles which happen in hospitals all across the continent when the doctors can no longer do anything they even pray and call upon higher powers when all
else has failed.

but yes, science is involved with everything which cannot be explained and even now
science cannot calculate why /how /what which is why so many things remain a
mystery till someone else comes along to try and break down its elements.

 
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Edited by: Admin  May 5, 07, 13:36  #146

Quoting: LoneStranger
The deeper we study, the better we know of everything. There are more races. The molecule is made of many atoms... and the atom has smaller particles aswell.


NO. THERE AREN'T. THERE ARE. ONLY. FIVE. Go to your local university college. Follow the signs "Anthropology" "Biology" or "Medicine" ask there.

Quoting: LoneStranger
If so, then why do the East Indian and Persian have to click on different buttons in your cherished dating site. Or, if the Persian must click Caucasian, the East Indian should be given the same opportunity. Because afterall... they are the same race :).

Now, if the Persian has no other place to click (due to them having less population). They can click on East Indian. This can also be aplicable to Afghanistan.

Or...ask your dating site administrator to make a new button... which says: Indo-Aryan (Protto-Indo_Iranian) race.

An Arab can call himself an Arab... no matter is he is from Yemen or Iraq.

It just describes the lack of knowledge the dating site has. It only wants to somehow classify people and get their business started.



For the 6th time. I don't have hopes anymore, but you never know.

It was an example. Of how. Modern day society uses race distinction. One of the examples are websites where you can fill in a personal profile. There are plenty of other websites which ask you to fill in a race.

I could've given the example of how the Police has different radio codes for different races. There probably are a lot more modern day examples.

You seem to have built your argumentation upon ridiculising this particular example. Time after time. I don't really see the point but still. Congratulations. I guess..

As for why a particular site has different options.. I don't know. Probably the website doesn't take into account only race but also different ethnicities to refine the searches even more. I hope this has finally entered & settled in your frontal lobe. Again, I have my doubts.

Quoting: LoneStar
I did back it up with logic. I gave a view of the spirit... A spiritual view.


If you say the contents of a particular "Holy Book" are scientifically proven facts, then you must be able to back it up in a scientific manner. You cannot just quote the particular book! That doesn't make any sense!

Quoting: LoneStar
If you cannot take that ... you will probably not be able to accept God (the Holy Spirit). If (perhaps) you do not believe in God. Then things are more criticle.


What do you mean with more critical? Can you explain to me what you think happens to someone if he doesn't believe in God? I'm just intrested what your view about that is.

Quoting: LoneStranger
You dont have to dare me. We are not gangsters... just simple people.


My English is good but I do misuse words sometimes. Mea culpa.

Quoting: LoneStranger
Jesus was a Messenger of God. A class higher than human.


So he wasn't born from the womb of Mary? I bet 98% of the christians in the world agree on that fact. See, this is exactly why it's impossible to win an arguement against someone strongly religious. Because everything that can't be explained or interpreted just happens "by God" or in another form described in a Holy Book. It's impossible to go in against that withouth sounding like a total jerk or nerd. I give up. I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. You win.


Quoting: Patrycja19
Quoting: sparrow
I dare you to describe to me one scientific biblical fact.

noahs ark.


abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/noahs_ark.html



Quoting: Patrycja19
dont know if I am using correct term , help me out someone, the cloth to which
he was wrapped and it was tested for age and to see if it was replica or real macoy


The shroud of Turin.

physorg.com/news4652.html - Shroud confirmed as fake


In 1389 the image was denounced as a fraud by Bishop Pierre D'Arcis in a letter to the Avignon Antipope Clement VII, mentioning that the image had previously been denounced by his predecessor Henri de Poitiers, who had been concerned that no such image was mentioned in scripture. Bishop D'Arcis continued, "Eventually, after diligent inquiry and examination, he discovered how the said cloth had been cunningly painted, the truth being attested by the artist who had painted it, to wit, that it was a work of human skill and not miraculously wrought or bestowed." The artist is not named in the letter.


You can find the transcribed original letter here, it's in German though

huinfo.at/grabtuch/grabtuch.htm#_Toc499394755

That & more arguements have been known for a while now. Even in the Vatican there is an understanding it's probably a fake, only hardline conservatives in the USA still swear by it.

The old testament wasn't meant to be taken literally.. they are metaphors. In order to accept Noah's Ark as fact, you must believe in God first. Not the other way around.

 
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LoneStranger
  May 5, 07, 14:12  #147

Quoting: sparrow
Shroud confirmed as fake

Agreed.

Quoting: sparrow
So he wasn't born from the womb of Mary?

Didnt say it.

Quoting: sparrow
happens to someone if he doesn't believe in God?

Its you life. I believe in Live and Let live.

Quoting: sparrow
Noah's Ark

His Messege.

Quoting: sparrow
I'm not gonna argue with you anymore

Good decision.

 
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  May 5, 07, 14:21  #148

Quoting: LoneStranger
Quoting: sparrow
So he wasn't born from the womb of Mary?

Didnt say it.


"
The meaning is that though, apparently, Christ was born from the womb of Mary, in reality He came from heaven, from the center of the Sun of Reality, from the Divine World, and the Spiritual Kingdom."


I.
Rest.
My.
Case.

 
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FISZ
  May 5, 07, 14:26  #149

ahhh it's all a fairy tale :)

People have to believe in something in order to move on in life. Some of us just dont choose god. Too many to chose from anyway :)

I believe any higher power will do.

 
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BubbaWoo
  May 5, 07, 14:29  #150

the power we need is found within ourself


ohm

 
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