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bossie
  Jun 14, 06, 13:39  #31

Wwa,

I see you know exactly what you want, or at least where to go. Go for it then! The more determination you have, the more chances to acheve your goals.

Decide what you want to do for living during your stay there, find some accommodation, even temporary, and go! Just make sure you won't need any silly permits to work ect.

Good luck!

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Wwa [Guest]
  Jun 14, 06, 19:43  #32

Wlazski, thank you, but i know what is better for me... Kraków is not for me.. it's a nice old city, but i love big and modern cities... So the most modern one of Poland is Warszawa i think, and i just love it smile

Bossie, Yeah, i know what i want and where i want to go, this is not the problem...
I thought about going there and then look for work, i mean, staying there like 2 months, and then, if i have no work, of course i have to go back.. cause i need work/money to live.
But i know, i dont have many possibilities to find that work, so i wonder why i should go there without be sure, spend all my money to live there some months without a work.. (money that i am trying to make now, working, just to go there) and then start to work again in my country to have again money to go elsewhere.. I think i need to be more sure before to move there..

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Wlazski [Guest]
  Jun 15, 06, 05:45  #33

Isn't it hard to get a place in Warszawa ?? I always heard that Warszawa is a closed city..

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STE [Guest]
  Jul 11, 06, 03:34  #34

Hi W-wa. I think your best bet is teaching Italian, I lived in Krakow for 3 years (over 10 years ago, I am from Wales by the way) and I taught English for 2.5 years. Teaching English was not my plan, I was offered a job by chance, at the Jagellonian University. I was in at the deep end but soon got the hang of it and I taught in various schools both private and otherwise (even a class of Franciscan Monks). Doing some sort of short course first would have been really helpfull but it was all quite fun and stressful at the same time. My wife is from Koszalin (we got married in Krakow nearly 13 years ago) and we are thinking of moving back there (to Koszalin) partly to get out of commuting and working long hours. However we do have the advantage of having some equity in our house in Wales which we can put to use in Poland.
Anyway I hope you realise your goal of living in Warsaw. (By the way the cost of living in Warsaw is relatively high I believe).

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lef
  Jul 14, 06, 01:33  #35

cost of living in warsaw is very very high


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names [Guest]
  Jul 14, 06, 08:28  #36

Quoting: lef, Post #53
cost of living in warsaw is very very high

But compared to Moscow - it's nothing!

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Wwa [Guest]
  Jul 15, 06, 18:41  #37

Hi, STE, you're not the first who tell me this.. i would like to do that, but i dont think i can.
i dont even have a diploma of high school, cause i went to private schools..
But sure, i would be able to teach italian to beginners...
Don't know what to do

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robwat [Guest]
  Aug 10, 06, 17:06  #38

I've from the UK and I live in Poland. I initially started by teaching English and although I qualified as a tefl certificate, there are still opportunies if you don't have one. You should be able to teach italian or at least hold conversation classed. I have since set up a couple of businesses, one is an apartment rental business and the other is a real estate business in krakow. Having learnt the system here, I think it is likely that as a native italian speaker, there will also be opportunities for you to e.g work in a tourism business where they need a native italian speaker e.g tours for italian visitors or something. You should research into it.

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lef
  Aug 11, 06, 03:35  #39

Quoting: robwat, Post #56
I've from the UK and I live in Poland. I initially started by teaching English and although I qualified as a tefl certificate, there are still opportunies if you don't have one. You should be able to teach italian or at least hold conversation classed. I have since set up a couple of businesses, one is an apartment rental business and the other is a real estate business in krakow


Interesting mmmm... why carn't those eductated poles which dobre wojek is talking about set up businesses in poland, why does it take a person from the UK ( school teacher at that) the courage to take up setting up a real estate business??.

Poles what are you doing?


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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  Aug 11, 06, 04:22  #40

After reading your post one could come to a conclusion that there are no businesses run by polish people in Poland. I hope that you realize that that statement is absolutely NOT true. There is more than just one real estate business in Krakow, and I can assure you, that there would be no problem with finding one being run by a pole.


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lef
  Aug 13, 06, 02:32  #41

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #58
After reading your post one could come to a conclusion that there are no businesses run by polish people in Poland


Undoubtedly poles are good at businesses, the point I was trying to make poles, are going to GB to make money, people from GB are coming to Poland to make money, ironical iisn"t it.


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truebrit
  Aug 13, 06, 07:14  #42

Quoting: lef, Post #65
Undoubtedly poles are good at businesses, the point I was trying to make poles, are going to GB to make money, people from GB are coming to Poland to make money, ironical iisn"t it.


Its not so many British people.You might not be aware that there are also estimated to be 400,000 Australian citizens working in the UK.

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lef
  Aug 15, 06, 21:53  #43

Quoting: truebrit, Post #66
Its not so many British people.You might not be aware that there are also estimated to be 400,000 Australian citizens working in the UK.


Your figure seems rather high?... However, England is the mother country, I'm sure most aussies feel quite at home when in GB, I'm sure I would.

Like I mentioned in a previous post, the country where you live is where you best feel at home, GB and Australia have a lot in common... remember the Queen of England is the head of state in Australia...Australians have a lot of respect for the monachy and the British people.
Many artists go to GB to develope talents etc, England is the best training ground in the arts and theatre.
Without going overboard GB produce the best films, comedies, and documentaries, it has the most outstanding actors.
Most people I have spoken to who have gone to GB for a work experience speak very highly of there time, but say things are very expensive.

Quoting: Shelley, Post #67
or dossing!


LOL, (I had to consult the dictionary to find the meaning of the word)


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rafik
  Aug 16, 06, 08:32  #44

Quoting: lef, Post #65

Undoubtedly poles are good at businesses, the point I was trying to make poles, are going to GB to make money, people from GB are coming to Poland to make money, ironical iisn"t it.

it is not.poles are going to uk to make some money but brits are going to poland with their money to make some more money and that's the main difference but it will change soon.most of the brits going to poland are skilled. i didn't see to many english brick layers in poland


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ladym21 [Guest]
  Aug 26, 06, 15:20  #45

Damn leave the girl alone. If she want to live in Poland then why not? A lot of foreigners come here to live and study. The only thing is you should speak some Polish.

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AntiMonoPole#1 [Guest]
  Sep 13, 06, 14:21  #46

I moved to Poland several years ago, and it was probably the worst mistake I ever made in my life.

This country is still in post-communist trauma. Most of the brighter, prettier and more active people have already left for a better future in the UK and Ireland, what is left is a simmering mess of unhappiness and misery.

It seems to me that very few Poles ever smile, unless you smile at them first, or prod them with a stick. I sometimes think everyone here is living in a sort of half-sleep. Few people have any interests aside from TV, the opposite sex and of course money. Money is all that anyone is really interested in, and they talk about how much you earn to the exclusion of virtually everything else, except rising house prices... Except in the heart of the big cities, the bars (the few that exist) are almost always empty or full of drunk men who haven't washed in a month. The countryside is even worse....

Thinking about moving here? Well you better love him or her a lot... cos it's not easy to make friends here... or to have anything of a cultural life, as you might in a Western country.

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old punk
  Sep 13, 06, 14:56  #47

Where were/are you living? What do you do for work?


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lef
  Sep 13, 06, 16:13  #48

Quoting: AntiMonoPole#1, Post #82
I moved to Poland several years ago, and it was probably the worst mistake I ever made in my life.


I agree with your comments, I must say though when you go to Krakow people are more positive and happy, in the country though, its like living among the dead.

Quoting: AntiMonoPole#1, Post #82
Few people have any interests aside from TV, the opposite sex and of course money. Money is all that anyone is really interested in, and they talk about how much you earn to the exclusion of virtually everything else, except rising house prices... Except in the heart of the big cities, the bars (the few that exist) are almost always empty or full of drunk men who haven't washed in a month. The countryside is even worse....


How true..


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polaca
  Sep 13, 06, 16:20  #49

I always surprised when i hear people want to live in poland.
I like polish people culture and traditions but u can find places more better to live, where u would have better living condition...
Im not ashamed that im Pole but in the futer i would like to move from poland....


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polskadan
  Sep 13, 06, 16:23  #50

I dont know, the situation in Gdansk is much better than most of the country. AVG GDP is higher and unemployment is below 10%....depends where you look at in Poland...to me the social life in Gdansk is/was amazing...

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old punk
  Sep 13, 06, 17:01  #51

Quoting: polaca, Post #85
I always surprised when i hear people want to live in poland.
I like polish people culture and traditions but u can find places more better to live, where u would have better living condition...
Im not ashamed that im Pole but in the futer i would like to move from poland....


Polaca,
why do you say that? What is real life in Poland like to you? Describe to me what average living conditions are like in the Tri-cities and Gdansk. I really what to know the truth because I am seriously considering moving to Poland.
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AntiMonoPole#1 [Guest]
  Sep 13, 06, 19:16  #52

"Where were/are you living? What do you do for work?"

1) Warsaw - one of the most spiritless messes in Poland. I live in probably the nicest suburb, but it's still a land of the undead, and even on a Saturday night most of the bars and restaurants are nearly empty or lifeless. Everyone's at home watching Desperate Housewives (with Polish idiot 'lektor' reading over it so you can't hear what they're saying) or saving for their Mercedes...

2) Work, well, largely translating, but other stuff too.

Oh, I forgot to add, the TV here is really shite too. Thankfully with the Internet now you don't have to watch it for your news and entertainment.

Be warned - there really isn't very much to do here, unless your young(ish), say under 30. There's an OK club-scene, which is pretty well priced. For the old farts like me (at 35) there's almost nowt to do, since all people of my age are married with kids, and therefore cease to exist on a cultural or social level. So in my opinion, life here pretty much ends at about 30. After that it's Zombieville.

Oh and did I say, everyone here has got such a long face.... permanently. It's utterly miserable (and I once used to be a happy kinda guy).

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Shelley [Guest]
  Sep 14, 06, 06:37  #53

Quoting: AntiMonoPole#1, Post #88
For the old farts like me (at 35) there's almost nowt to do, since all people of my age are married with kids, and therefore cease to exist on a cultural or social level. So in my opinion, life here pretty much ends at about 30.


36 here matie and still live a full life, own teeth, hair and lots of the old grey matter!!! If you act and feel like an old fart people will treat you like one! As for Warsaw - it's just another London as far as I have been told another place I hear that it hard to make friends.

suggest you move to krakow lots of attractive people and more nightlight than you can shake a shitty stick at and lots and lots of english tourists you can speak to....there you go problem solved.

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iwona
  Sep 14, 06, 08:23  #54

AntiMonoPole

For me you sound little miserable.
Each country is different each region of the same copuntry is different.

I was living in Krakow and didn't see so many miserable people like you. And yes in krakow there is so much to do theatres, cinemas, operas, exhibitons, bars, pubs, restaurants......always something going on in main market.
If someone wants change there are short trips to "skalki" not far away or Zakopane ,Tatra mountains, Beskidy,Wieliczka ......


I would agree with one yes people are quite family orientated in Poland and if after 30 someone needs close circle of friends otherwise it can be difficult.

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Marzena
Edited by: Marzena  Sep 14, 06, 21:36  #55

I think that nightlife and cultural life is much better in Poland then at least in the US. People are more relaxed and social and there is always something going on, especially in the larger cities. I think that entertainment has more quality to it then it does here - which is a prime example of majority being tv wathers and getting drunk as entertainment. Seems like going to movies is the best thing you can do if you wanna go out but avoid drinking, but how much of it can you do??
The thing about older people is true though, however I know of some clubs where older folks go and have a fantastic time till morning (I think one of them is called Lolek and it's in Warsaw). However, with that attitude, I don't think you can have fun anywhere. Just get the hell out of there and move back to the UK, you're killing yourself dude.

Post - communist trauma - have to agree with that, however you're exaggerating the negatives due to your depressive state.

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iwona
  Sep 15, 06, 07:39  #56

Few people have any interests aside from TV, the opposite sex and of course money. Money is all that anyone is really interested in, and they talk about how much you earn to the exclusion of virtually everything else, except rising house prices...

REALLY???? What are the subjects of conversations in UK or Australia?
How many pints of beer you can drink at one night? with how many girls you slept? That is what can be usually heard.....plus maybe some football talkd and lots swearing.

In bar in krakow or Warsaw conversation can be much more interesting but maybe it is too sophisticated for you???



Except in the heart of the big cities, the bars (the few that exist) are almost always empty or full of drunk men who haven't washed in a month. The countryside is even worse....


Maybe in 70-ties not so much now.

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Temp1 [Guest]
  Dec 10, 06, 15:14  #57

I am amazed reading this forum about the amount of people who have so many negative things to say about so much.
For god sake, we are on this planet to make things happen, not wait for things to happen-get with it.
For foreigners who have made the decision to move to Poland and don't like it, then leave and go somewhere else. What about having mountains on the doorstep with good skiing facilities, what about the golabki, what about the beautiful and hospitable people, appreciating the value of close families and friends and all the other things that the country has to offer. If you want to have a moan about the regime and the way things are done, then leave and go somewhere else rather than offend the Polish people who are on this forum.
England the land of oportunity. Anywhere in the world there are oportunities if you make it happen, and if people got off their arses and thought more clearly about oportunities then they wouldn't feel so bitter about everything.
Lets try and post some more intelligent conversation on here!

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 10, 06, 17:24  #58

Quoting: Temp1, Post #96
England the land of oportunity


weird... the reason i go to poland so often is becasue of the opportunity...

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user [Guest]
  Dec 14, 06, 17:36  #59

I am Warsaw citizen and i DON'T KNOW what you mean!

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Giles [Guest]
  Dec 15, 06, 10:44  #60

For the old farts like me (at 35) there's almost nowt to do, since all people of my age are married with kids, and therefore cease to exist on a cultural or social level. So in my opinion, life here pretty much ends at about 30.

If thats the case surely its the same everywhere? Why specifically does life end in Poland and not in UK.

My brother in laws same age as me 31 has two kids under 7 yrs old, he still manages to go out to the cinema, gym, bowling, drinking and fighting with other hooligans at the weekend at the old football. F..ing brilliant I cannot wait to be there myself.

Polands a bit like the 1970's Uk, anyway seems like that round the Tri-city area. Great.

My missus and I are aiming for kids in the next year, and for me thats when my life is going to begin. I cannot wait.

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