JAKUB TOMCZAK - guilty?

Funny how a google for ' "jakub Tomczak" nails' produces no hits other than this site.


That's complete and utter rubbish. Such bullsh*t that I can't even be bothered to read the rest of your lies.

Nice sentiments Doctor, it must have taken ages to type all that tripe out.

If DNA was found under the victims nails, it would have been admissable in court. What you have said is a total fabrication, all the physical evidence gets shown.

The fact that you say the defence were not allowed to mention it in court is a total fabrication. A total lie, based on evidence that does not exist based on the tripe fed to you by the Polish press.

There was no DNA found under her fingernails, full stop. The reason you say it was not mentioned at the trial is lunacy at its best. Keep taking the pills.

Also, British Police were not looking for a Exeter shirt, Jakub had been identifed (by his sister, employer) and they were looking for the clothes he admitted to wearing that night. Jakub admitted to what he was wearing and the Police were looking for his red shirt.

Not to be found anywhere.

I dont know why I bother with simpletons like you.

Visiting hours are available to meet JAkub.

I am guessing that most posters are in Poland and have based their opinions on the Polish press, despite the fact ONLY ONE POLISH JOURNALIST WAS AT THE TRIAL.

Absolutey amazing

I for one used local [Exeter] sources.

Quote them.

Find an article that states other DNA sources.


I will wallow in the rabid reaction to the Polish Press.

theres only one english paper that has given any coverage to this story - Express & Echo

can anyone find the proof that she had another mans DNA under her nails?


This is a total fabrication made up by the Polish press? Nothing whatsoever to back this up.

It was not mentioned in the trial.

A TOTAL FABRICATION

So why was he put away beyond reasonable doubt and with an almost unanimous jury verdict?

LOOK THIS GUY HAS BEEN SENT DOWN...LET'S LEAVE IT......ITS A DIFFICULT SITUATION - and yes I know I was shouting

Quote them

If you must know: Local BBC News and the Express and Echo [on-line]. Although I never read the 12 page [?] supplement that came with the paper.

Quote them.

You made the claim, you back it up with hard evidence. This is how it works.

Or do you work for Jakub's defence team?

Still not seen any evidence of the DNA found under the fingernails.. Over to Wroclaw who claims to have read it in the press.

Link please. Attached to the full story if that's OK.

Classic.

Did you go to school?

So, by your own admission you have read nothing detailing the trial.

Still waiting for confirmation that DNA was found uner the victims fingernails. You can message it to me in private if you like?

I am 100% certain it does not exist so ....

It might be a good idea if you read all my posts on this topic. I have never once mentioned DNA under the victims fingernails.

Let's say you want to induce doubts about DNA test.So you get lawyers specialized in doubting DNA results,so called DNA experts.They crossexamine persons who did the investigations.Then they call scientists DNA experts to support their opinion.The prosecution gets its own experts.There is a big show going on.
As a result after a while the jury which is elected to not have any idea about DNA surveillance as to be neutral gets tired.It can no longer understand the difficult science terms and the complicated explanations.So it releases the suspect due to doubts.
Where can this happen?Not in Europe.This is the key.Not in Europe.Why?Because the law does not allow such a show to take place.Do you need a show?

Still waiting for any published report of DNA under the fingernails.

***whistles in the wind****

Total fabrication by the Polish press.

Absolutely amazing

Jakub,

Get this into your fcuking head you mindless moron.

I have never mentioned 'DNA under fingernails' in this or any other thread.

Also, you have neither quoted your sources nor provided any more information than me on this topic.

Get a life you fcuking wanker.

well said

It is enough that his DNA was found. Would they have found my DNA on her? Not a chance. Just too much of a coincidence he was there.

I have read the opinions above and am shocked how aggressive and dirty language people use to refer to one another here.
I have read a couple of comments. Many of you require sources of facts. Actually, when I was looking for them, I found the main two: Exeter's Echo and the Polish press. I have found the Echo's reports biased and missing some facts. The Polish press was inacurate in many things and biased too.

You might find interesting the interview on radio with the defence lawyers (Paplaczyk and Wiza) quating also the British lawyer Mr. Langdon I have found. This is its website address: radiomerkury.pl/dzwieki/obroncy_jakuba_studio.mp3

It is in Polish so let me summarise some of the points there. By each of them I put some of your previous opinions put here before (in some cases wrong unfortunately):


According to the lawyers in the interview the jury were at their homes


Interview: police was looking for the different shirt in Jakub's home. They did not seek for the one they asked in the court. The prosecution had the other Jakub's clothes



Interview: Doubts about the procedure of taking the sperm and serious procedural doubts about the procedure of taking Jakub's DNA. Mr. Langdon's opinion: Judge should have reject it (Important case of South African and the standpoint of The House of the Lords). I think some of you here (Doctor?) mentioned it.


The other points in the interview:
1/Lithaunian guy and the head of the porters in the hotel gave Jakub some alibi (though quationable by prosecution)
2/the lawyers mentioned "the other traces" on Jane's clothes and body but it was unspecific of them and put in the complex context.
3/Defence asked for formal rejection of DNA test (inprocedural and doubts) which excluded retesting
4/Defence (Mr. Langdon) asked the judge to tell the jury that they should not follow the local press but the judge did not do it. He just repeated generally that they should be objective and concentrated only on what they know about the case from the court.

I want to add that I also heard (in the press) about the offer of prosecution to give up the charge of the attack and harm instead of the voluntarily confession of the rape itself. The defence is said to have rejected that. That is also true that the prosecution gave up the accusation of the murder.

I could not find specific information about fingernails or obstacles to show other evidences in the court by the defence.


That's all. In my opinion DNA test if done propely is a hard evidence.
However I find a lot of doubts about the case as well.

You haven't seen much yet...

LOL!

Belly laughs all round courtesy of Wroclaw.

I suggest you chill out mate I detect so much anger inside. It cannot be healthy.

Out

1) Since last year (december) DNA is not a proof because you cant do em tests properly (50/50 ? come on...)
2) NO and i mean absolutely NO CCTV evidence (screen1: jakub walks into a park, screen2: a woman is being raped by SOMEONE, screen2: jakub walks out some other way...)
3) THESE ABOVE are not lies, they are proved and they were publicated by british media and police. You rly going to judge an innocent man with THESE?!
4) Do you really think he would just go and handle his DNA if he did rape that woman?
5) Hes got a bunch of friends, hes normal and hes got a hot girlfriend. WTF would he want from an old, ugly british woman?!
6) His friends said he came back home the way he left work - clean clothes, smiling etc...
7) Polish officers shouldnt give him to british police with such WEAK evidence...

8) No offence but i really feel like commenting on all these people who were racist bastards and sent him to jail...DUMBASSES.

Absolute tripe.

It was covered in the Telegraph and the Times. From internet feeds it looks like all the UK red tops picked it up also.

There was the same amount of journalists constantly at the trial from Scotland as there was from Poland. An Angus newspaper IIRC...

It was also covered in all the local papers in the South-West (Cornwall, Somerset).




No you didn't.

It was the prosecution that dropped the attempted murder charge. The defence got no 'deals' nor was there any indication of making a deal with the defence in exchange for a guilty plea.

The case was such a certainty a monkey could have prosecuted Jakub and won.



He wanted the 'old, ugly british woman' for the same reason the lifers in jail will want Jakubs fresh flabby ass. FOR SEX

He is in for a tough time, especially if he doesn't speak English.



Sorry, but biggest LOL in three or four pages.

Did you hear him admit in court he was single at the time of the offence? He was the ugly guy standing in the dock, right? Pretty sure it was him who admitted to being single

LOL

What has happened to Jakub's hot girlfriend?

Did she dump him as he is a rapist? Is she standing by him? Nothing in the press about her, no interviews/police records

OR

Is she a total fabrication that never existed in the first place?

I love the Polish press, They had Jakub down as serving two consecutive 25 year sentences yesterday.


LOL

Jakub has a lot a "girlfriends" in the slamer right now. Just becarful when you pickup that soap in the showers, Jakob! lol

Don't drop the soap Jakub.

Plenty of lifers are loving that flabby arse.

I hope he gets raped liked he did to that poor woman.

There are pervs watching him, only a matter of time before he gets raped

I have heard that he has been segregated for his own safety?

LOL

I hope he rapes some prisoners.

Southern is the rapist's cheerleader here I see. lol