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JAKUB TOMCZAK - guilty?


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mong [Guest]
  Jan 27, 08, 18:54  #61

taxi driver?/????

Lost

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Seanus
  Jan 28, 08, 04:09  #62

There's an Afghan(i) taxi driver who has allegedly committed 3 rapes already in the city of Exeter. Check on the BBC website, I think I found his name there


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adam2 [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 06:20  #63

Guys, please educate yourselves.
"DNA profile" does not equal "DNA".
The probability of two people having the same "DNA profile" is about one in 240,000--or more.
There have been lots of cases where a guy's "DNA profile" was "positively matched" with the one found at a crime scene but the person in question was, for instance, in jail and therefore had a perfect alibi.
Please read the article in the link below (lots of other links there as well):

(triple w.) nutteing.chat.ru/dnapr.htm

p.s. they wouldn't le me post the exact web address--hope you can make it out.

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InGodWeTrust [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 06:54  #64

hi, reading all these post im thinking that if someone is trying to defend Jakub must be either his friend or member of his family, im polish and been leaving in uk for nearly 6yrs now, i feel sorry for what happend and hope the victim will be able to come back to lead her life as she did before. i agree that evil has no nationality ect. it will put great shame on polish community if he is guilty, but what if he isnt, on one hand we have all the newspapers and media against him which creates public opinion, on the other his family and friends and polish community in general. we all have a rights to express ouresleves,thats why we should do it in more responsible way. im not here to tell if he is guilty or not, ill leave it to the British justice .

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BubbaWoo
  Jan 28, 08, 07:10  #65

if british justice finds him guilty will this be accepted in poland?

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InGodWeTrust [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 08:29  #66

if british justice finds him guilty will this be accepted in poland?


i would say YES!

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FIOL
  Jan 28, 08, 10:00  #67

So,he's guilty.

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Wroclaw
  Jan 28, 08, 10:10  #68

FIOL wrote:
So,he's guilty.


Bang to rights.


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neil1 [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 10:10  #69

Guilty- shame they do not use DNA profiling in poland- probably not his first attack.

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Wroclaw
  Jan 28, 08, 10:14  #70

neil1 wrote:
shame they do not use DNA profiling in poland-


But they do.


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BubbaWoo
  Jan 28, 08, 10:19  #71

watch out for the quiet ones

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ShelleyS
  Jan 28, 08, 10:32  #72

Makes you wonder what kind of people are coming to the UK and if criminal checks should be compulsory for any nationality entering the UK, Id hate for England to become home for all the flotsome of the world, what am I saying it already has :((

Ive asked this question before but didnt get an answer

Does Poland have a sex offenders register?


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InGodWeTrust [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 10:47  #73

is that a question?

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FIOL
  Jan 28, 08, 10:47  #74

ShelleyS wrote:
Does Poland have a sex offenders register?


NO.

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InGodWeTrust [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 10:49  #75

FIOL


So,he's guilty


is that the question?

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Ranj
  Jan 28, 08, 10:56  #76

mong wrote:
He had lots of women friends,why would he rape a woman twice his age?

The defence lawyer did sink pretty low with that one, and in my opinion alienated the jury in doing so.

I'd say.....everyone knows rape is about power and not sex.


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InGodWeTrust [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 10:57  #77

ShelleyS - i think we shouldnt blame emmigrants for everything , there is loads of offenders in UK who were born and raised here.

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BubbaWoo
  Jan 28, 08, 11:11  #78

i dont think shelley was saying that - she was saying that the uk should be careful who they allow in... surely you agree with that...?

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plk123
  Jan 28, 08, 11:19  #79

neil1 wrote:
You have to say when taking everything into account that he is guilty, but his guilt must be proved in court and therefore the evidence will have to be compelling, with respect to you polish slave, the criminal justice system in the uk is a damn site more humane than polands where i beleive torture is still used as a means of obtaining confessions, the part played by poland in the so called cia flights where potential terror suspects were tortured in polish interrogation camps is infamous. I ahve to say though that the fact that he has got rid of the clothes he was wearing on the night might seal his fate as this is the actions of a guilty man. I understand that despite obtaining a 100 percent match in dna taken from semen, that there were also inconsistencys in the initial DNA test- this could constitute reasonable doubt as to a safe conviction so in effect he could get off on a technicality. One thing that is said of rapists is that people close to them often refuse to beleive they are capable of such crimes as they present themselves are quiet and gentle people. I only hope that the right decision is made as it would be a disaster if he was to be convicted of a crime he didn`t commit or not convicted of a crime he did commit- we all know that a leopard never changes its spots and as a result, a wrong not guilty verdict could end up as a death sentence for another woman years down the line.

eve heard of OJ Simpson?


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InGodWeTrust [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 11:21  #80

BubbaWoo ,of course i will agree with that ,and the only solution for that is to close the borders, i dont thing British economy can afford that?!

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BubbaWoo
  Jan 28, 08, 11:22  #81

no, i dont agree that is the only solution at all

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InGodWeTrust [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 11:24  #82

what would you propose than?

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BubbaWoo
  Jan 28, 08, 11:27  #83

im not qualified to propose security measures for the boarders of the uk but following along the lines of american policy is an obvious example

suggestion that the uks economy would collapse if such measures were taken smaks of an immigrant desperate to believe the uk needs him

are you british?

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InGodWeTrust [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 11:31  #84

BubbaWoo as far as know goverment is planning to create id card for every citizen which is great idea. in poland its essential for everyone ,after u finish 18 ,to apply for yr personal id card.!!
i am Polish leaving in UK with polish passport.

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BubbaWoo
  Jan 28, 08, 11:34  #85

i dont actually think having an id card will solve problems, afterall, we already have one in britain - we call it a passport

do you believe that having id cards in poland has significantly reduced crime or made the country safer to live in?

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mong [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 11:48  #86

Guilty with majority verdict.

Life imprisonment with a minimum 9 years to be served.

He will be in his mid-thirties before release is considered.

Meanwhile his victim is brain damaged for life

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Sorry two life sentences to run concurrently.

His victim managed to brave coming to court and watched the verdict being delivered from the back of the courtroom in her wheelchair

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mong [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 11:53  #87

//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/7213695.stm

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vanburen3 [Guest]
  Jan 28, 08, 12:01  #88

ok as an English man from Exeter now residing in Poland due to the ******** british State we live in....i have to agree with polishslave. Exeter is a close Knit community nothing major happens there, suddenly 50000 poles arrive to do the jobs that the english refuse to do, someone gets raped and of course no one was ever rapped before the polish people arrived so it had to be a pole......Then we have british police all on a points system the more points they have the bigger bonus they have strictly immoral however true....and yes the evidence stands against him....DNA samples taken could be fixed no one ever challenged this for all we know the police could have taken a hair from his apartment and then matched it with the same Given in Poznan (to which i may add was never the capital of Poland)!!!!! as stated in the local exeter papers, and to get something like that wrong what hope does the world have when it comes to a trial....

On another point this man was not the typical Burak person that comes to the UK for work he was a trainee lawyer, someone with a little intelligence, unlike those i see on the plane each week!!!!!

CCTV immages show only Black and white photos, there is no clear picture of the persons face in any of them...besides a Black man from Afghanistan is also wanted for rape in exeter...i guess the police wont be going to Kabul to get him!!!

and the last point and the most obvious one is the WE 8 Argyle shirt the attacker was wearing, was not linked to Jakub, none of his friends mentioned this in statements, I feel this is a set up by corrupt Police

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yes a black man from Afghanistan.....the police were to scared to go there to get him....

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hairball
  Jan 28, 08, 12:09  #89

I think it's quite significant that he didn't challenge the DNA results.

My heart goes out to the victem who seems to have suffered quite an ordeal!


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Wroclaw
  Jan 28, 08, 12:16  #90

vanburen3 wrote:
I feel this is a set up by corrupt Police


He can bring it up at his appeal.


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