Jewish belongings

we touched base on this in another thread.. Brat is german, but he didnt do anything
so your blaming him for something that he was not involved in!!!

it was 60 years ago.. yes it still hurts. but time to move forward dont you think??

did you live during that time?? Maybe read up on some other threads before you go
jumping on another human being that wasnt directly involved.. he has every right
to defend himself.. and its your anger that brings his anger..

Brat came defending himself. just as we are.. but we have to remember we live
in 2007!!! there is other SH*T going on that requires more important talks then
to fight over this...

WTF ? Dude is posting anti-Polish provocations, sometimes It's funny, but not all the time.

I would just like to add!!! we all learned our history... now its time to learn from it!!!!!

WHAT????

What I posted was just TWO little jewish stories, told by Jews....you can find lot's of it on the net.

You call THAT anti-polish provocations????

Pat you are to good for this world...erm...forum! :)

....wow...just made my 500. post....*pats himself on back*

the only reason he posts anything anti polish is when someone is jumping down
his throat.. so to speak..

He stopped posting and was having normal conversation, and then someone else
we all know and yell at kept trying to instagate more!!

I wont point fingers. but he knows who he is.. and intelligence begins with common
sense to be tactful and know when to stop..

Yeah puzzy.. your intelligence was missing when you called Miranda a name

I like Brat. hes actually very intelligent. and I am sure in person is not the picture
people get of him here..

and I say that with respect..

Give me a break, dude either has a poor sense of humor or is a real psychopat. He came here to spread anti-Polish garbade, 3 normal posts don't change that.

Greg, he stumbled upon this site by accident.. when he read the posts , he became
angry,, of course he would. just like you would if you came across a german forum
talking about Polish..

now puzzler.. yes, he is pro poland, but he obviously forgot how use manners.
especially when it comes to treatin ladies bad.. and everyone seems to become
a poloniaphobic to him..

canada is right next door to me.. ive always loved canada.. beautiful country
and nothing against any of them.

Sure some Poles pillaged jewish and german homes. But it probably was a minority, The Russian soldiers were by all accounts the worst towards everyone in the newly occupied Polish(former german) territory although there were roving bands of Polish toughs too.
After every war there are those with no scruples who steal and swindle for personal gain it is not limited to any nationality.
And if you were a Pole kicked out of your home in the East how would you behave to the germans when you saw them in the west where you were relocated. Although there are tales of Polish families living in the homes of german families around Wroclaw waiting until the german family could leave.

Are you nuts? What Poles? And who kills who? Do you know Berman name? Are you kidding or just jealous idiot?

Ever read Jan Gross' "Fear" or "Neighbours" (about Jedwabne)? Famous book...outside of Poland I think....some reading would help you out...of course anti-polish crap I know....

amazon.com/Fear-Anti-Semitism-Poland-After-Auschwitz/dp/0812967461/ref =sr_1_1/002-0899577-5985612?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182886313&sr=8-1

Gross tried to make money in Poland writing about Jewish involvment in stalinistic crimes, once he figured out that It's not a good business, he left to America and begun to write anti-Polish trash.

You...

Now isn't that curious that whenever someone is criticizing Poles it becomes either "anti-polish crap" or "anti-polish provocations"???

What's wrong with you???

I will be generous and tell you a little secret:

Accepting wrong doings doesn't make you a weakling but gives you a better image internationally!
Denying it makes you look stupid (especially as there is so much evidence)....think about it if you have a functioning braincell left!

When someone bring that in a topic not really connected with this issue than what else this is ?

And generally when a nation with the highest number of "righteous gentiles" and 3 million of own deads in WW2 is blamed for Holocaust almost as much as your tribe and much much more than those which had collaboration governments and own SS units than what else It is ? "Anti-semitism" simply became offensive weapon against Poland and Poles and is often used by non-Jews (sometimes even Gerries like in this case which is hillarious) who definately don't give a damn about Jews, only wants to **** us off.

Definitely not "whenever".

After this idiot "Gad" redirected a valiant question about the search for jewish belongings to the german and russian embassies I just said that a search between Poles might have as much success...



Face it...as long as you deny what happened so long people will be only to happy to point your nose into the crap again and again...too much evidence buddy!

I doubt we Germans are the worst pointer....:)
We earned us ourselves a world wide quite good reputation for owning up to past crimes and trying to amend whereas Poland has a miserable image in that regard!

A very good point Grzegorz. Germany now basically has everything, a strong and prosperous economy and a good present image. There is only one thing missing to be able to be fully proud of being German in Europe these days, namely a praiseworthy past. The WWII stigma won't be that easy to get rid off. In order to do that one would have to find a nation to pas the blame on.

Jesus, look at this statements:





Not only Poles were riding Jewish abandoned houses ( yeah right, Germans were scrupulous enough to remember to pull out golden teeth from Jews mouths, but they forgot to take precious things left behind in their houses) but also poor and innocent German homes! Does anyone see a pattern here? And then, at the end of the day, they will tell you that Poles are the ones that live in the past. Hahaha…

Sorry Brat, as much as I admit that poles don’t have the monopoly on being righteous people I can not and never will even compare Polish and German attitude to Jews during the WWII. Drop the farce.

I would recommend looking up Jewish sites and, if possible, making contacts with Jewish folks in Poland. In my initial research into things Polish, I've found two Jewish sites that look good. One is jewish.org.pl, though it's in Polish only (several links to it note it as English/Polish bilingual, but clearly it isn't). All their stuff looks really interesting though - for example, they have a big story up already on the cornerstone laying for the Museum of the History of Polish Jews that took place in Warsaw today.

Also, the Polish Jews Forum looks like it might be helpful - it is definitely in English and Polish! However, the forum part itself looks like it's only in Polish. :^( Still, you might be able to get some information there.

Unfortunately (until one knows Polish much better, anyway!), most Polish-Jewish websites seem to be Polish only.

And what exactly happened my dear sausage... ?

Which farce?

Do you call the jewish experiences I posted a "farce"...is Gross' work a farce?

I'm not interested in comparing...

Many people in Poland, when they knew something was going to happen, hid many things in a nearby wood or forest. Some dug a hole in the garden and buried everything.
When the russians came they had no respect for anything and whatever was left was destroyed. I have found all manner of broken things in the garden. No treasure yet.
In some areas of nowadays Poland the Jewish population might have left before WWII started.

Read the links!

(What did you actually learn in school?)

Says it all really:

shalom-magazine.com/Article.php?id=460306

"...In terms of complicity in Holocaust crimes, Poland is clearly not Lithuania or Latvia, but “Operation: Last Chance” has exposed the deep denial still widespread in Polish society regarding the role played by individual Poles in the murder of Jews during the Shoa. Obviously, if any Polish Holocaust perpetrators will ultimately be prosecuted thanks to O:LC, that would be a significant victory, but forcing Polish society to face the complicity of individual Poles in the crimes which contributed to the annihilation of one of Europe’s largest and most important Jewish communities is also a worthwhile achievement. ..."

Do it or leave it....but the "pointers" won't go away...and they aren't Germans...

word !!!!

And all that time I thought that you really are German. :)

Come on Maty...all these links and thousands more...no Germans...

Gross' "work" is a farce for sure and in case of "experiences" there's so many of them that one always can find some, which support his opinion.

We were forced to accept Russian version of our own history for too long and you must be out of your mind If you think that now we will accept yours and you will be pushing on us your own guilt. Your granparents created the most perverted regim in the history of mankind, which destroyed our country and killed millions of Poles, we were fighting against your tribmen from Norawy to Africa and from France and UK to the eastern front and saying that now we should accept some "guilt" is so ridiclous that It's not even funny.

Do it or leave it....

Anti-German crap!

Would you please stop those anti-german provocations!