Jewish belongings

Huh?

They still deny that they did that???

Exactly.

I watched a movie about the Warschauer uprising...also by Wajda (I think)...I still remember the tunnels...quite moving!

Do you mean polish movies or movies about Poland?

Now...then then russian reaction to that movie will be quite interesting...

Good point. Can`t wait.

More accurately, it was jewish murder. Many jews had very prominent positions within the Soviet government, and the Talmud teaches jews to kill the intelligencia of any ethnic group that they happen to be living with.

Here's the quote
Genocide Advocated by the Talmud

Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the gentiles should all be killed").

revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html

everybody cares.. but we have to learn from all of it..

I am glad that this has settled and is now a conversation and not a fighting fest

:))

Thank you very much Mag!!. Your info is very helpfull! :-)

Yeltsin
confessed that it was their fault, but Putin decided to go back to their previous politics and denied.

Everybody looted - but lets face it as it's been said, had the Germans kept their mits of Poland (plus everywhere else) this would not have happened..

BTW my best friends mother is German, her parents came over just before America became involved, guess what their house was looted by Amercian soldiers....

So you see, everyone was at it...

As for jewish people being murdered by Polish people - I dont know, but the Germans certainly did their best to wipe them out....

Well, good luck with your search! I'm glad you found my post - I was afraid it had gotten lost among all the "discussion" here! :^)

A better image, period! Everyone has more respect for those who are strong enough to admit a mistake. :)

There is a Jewish Polish woman who started collecting pictures of Jews from before the war and displaying them in exhibitions first in Warsaw then in the US and around the world.

shalom.org.pl/eng/
"The photographs were sent mostly by Poles - Polish families, neighbors, and friends."

Why has this interesting thread gone off topic and downhill? What are you guys fighting about? My guess is that you are probably second or third generation after the war yet throwing accusations as if you were all there. The Nazis are to blame. Some Poles cooperated in the killing and stealing as did citizens of every other European country. Thousands of Poles also risked their lives to help Jews, more than any other country. Most probably just tried to survive themselves. Look prejudice and suspicion is part of the human condition, mamalian condition for that matter. We need to recognize it and fight it in others and in ourselves.

Shahama (from US and Israel with Polish roots)

There were a lot of anti-semites in Poland – the Jedwabne massacres were terrible and you Poles would be better off not denying that.

Which of course you haven’t – an apology was issued by your President in 2001 I believe. Which kind of flies in the face of people who claim you never apologised.

However the attempts to compare Polish anti-semitism with nazi anti-semitism or even to say that Polish anti-semitism was worse than in other occupied countries is absurd but I’m afraid to say pretty common.

Firstly Poland never collaborated with the Nazis. The Nazis never managed to set up a puppet government in Poland unlike in every other country they occupied. They never managed to form a Polish division to fight for them – again unlike in every other country they occupied.

Also unlike every other country they occupied, there was an automatic death penalty for entire families if they were caught sheltering Jews. The Nazi regime was far more brutal in Poland than in Western Europe and Czechoslovakia. Food rations were much lower. Your intellectuals and nobility were generally slaughtered.

Nevertheless there are more Poles than any other nationality recognized by the Israeli Yad Vashem Institute – The Holocaust Martyrs’ and Heroes’ Remembrance Authority in Jerusalem, as “Righteous Among the Nations.” These were people that risked their lives to save Jews. People who were caught doing so and who were subsequently killed along with the Jews they were sheltering are not included on this list.

Zegota was the only branch of any resistance movement in all of the occupied countries dedicated solely to saving Jews. The Polish government in exile tried to make people believe what was going on but were generally disregarded.

Despite all of this the belief that the Poles were generally anti-semitic sadistic killers has grown over the years whereas such stories from other occupied countries are normally swept under the carpet. This is because Western European countries grew strong and powerful after the war and had an interest and in presenting the positive face of their WW2 involvement. Poland on the other hand had Soviet lackeys in power who wished to undermine the reputation of it’s home army (who they normally imprisoned). These Polish governments could not care if the West regarded Poles as generally anti-semitic.

It is also important now for you younger Poles to get to know both the good and dark side of your history. Like I say most of us in the West are really only aware of the darker side.

If Poles were so anti-semetic then why did Jews live and prosper in Poland for approx. 700 years? Also it must be noted that Poland had the biggest Jewish population (after the U.S.) before the outbreak of World War II.

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Read the rest of the post. There were a lot of anti-semites everywhere in Europe.

And yes I agree that Poland was light years better than every other nation in Europe in the middle Ages.

Also note that when I say "a lot of Poles were", it is a lot different to saying "most Poles were"

Who cares if some Polish people ended up with a few Chatchkies?

I've seen a picture of a huge synagoge in Poland. It is currently an electronics store.

There is another picture of a synagoge in South Africa that has been turned into a fried chicken shop.

Jews got compensated in a big way, anyway, they got Palestine, so what's the big deal?

I am thinking this is made up for those who want to convince themselfs..
the real truth is,, Germans and Russians had some meat on their bones in
1945.. they didnt look starved.. and they wore some heavy warm clothing
to which I could see Poles, Jews ( who were spared) etc etc maybe looting to
find something to eat and put on.. what the hell would anybody do in that
situation.. the British and American army was there, but hell, to that many
starved people coming out of a camp.. what they hell would you do??

tell ya what i would do.. plant my arse in a vacant home and who the hell cares
who lived there,, I want my life back thats what!!!

give me food, shelter, and medication... anything to my survival..
and I seriously doubt that much was left after people were loaded onto trains
to go to their death.

The whole Jedwabne thing is just anti-polish propaganda coming from jewish sources.

They control 95% of the world's mainstream media, and are constantly attempting to get their victims on a guilt trip. Don't fall for their lies.

Fight jewish propaganda at every opportunity. Counter every lie. Fight back against Jewish lies on the internet.

Unfortunately instead of having a civilized discussion those interersted in an outlet for their racism and propoganda (on all sides) are dominating this forum.

These are the rules, where is the moderator? :

Stay on topic. If your post is not related to this thread, create a new thread or post here.
- Do not insult or harass others, play nicely!
- Do not personally attack others to avoid temporary or permanent suspension.

yes but stay on topic!

No idea where it all comes from but when I was last at Kola market there were certainly a lot of those silver pointy sticks and candle holders,mind you lots of jerry stuff ,soldbuchs etc and ,er,wigs aswell....so I suppose 60 year old junk does surrface everywhere. In the parts of Warsaw I know people those old enough,ex AK fighters and others have nothing from their pre war/ powstanie warszawskie days ,only items dragged from the rubble that those "civiliesd" germans deemed worthless such as sheet music and Polish books . So even though I understand the motive(innocent) behind the specifically jewish question why diffirentiate between Poles who untill the invasions(or in the more zionist shtetls) would only once a week be different? As always it drags out the worst in some people,those bizzare "protocols of the elders of zion" quoters................and others with a slight rose tint on their respective histories.
First off, eric the knaves post is spot on,good to highlight zhegota et al
but other posts are rather simplistic/rose tinted. To say that there were no,zero Polish colaberators is fancifull to say the least.If this was the case why were a large proportion of the Home Armies k diw targets Polish nationals? Every country has turn coats and spivs ,Poland just happened to have far less+a more effective underground state to enforce Polish law.
And on that topic,can any anti poles name another country who's underground army actually attacked and liberated a Death Camp? no,didnt think so,look up Goose Farm.
As for the german guy trying to insinute some sort of parrallel with Nazi and Polish history,get over yourself. Europe is bored sick of "ze Germans" cod tears for crimes commited 60+ years ago,and so are you lot from what I hear. Isnt Germany now trying to declare the Allied bomber crews(53thousand brit/commenwealth dead helping to free europe) as war crimenals on a par with the SS. Good boze man,now that takes the biquies and no mistake No, To quote basil fawltey. You started it,you invaded Poland.
Oh,and now trying to get back land owned by f**king volksdeutsche during the occupation,thats just twisted........
k.

Did a look up. Interesting.

Hi i think that it will be wery hard to find something belonging to jews comunity in houses, basements ect. Just because those things becomed valuable sewral years ago. And I think that it will be very difficult to find something, even small.

Saw a very interesting documentary on the BBC about a Jewish guy who went back to Poland after 60 years. He left as a very small child when his family managed to escape to the UK. He went to a small town (don't remember where) and tried to visit the house that his family once lived in. The current Polish owner was, not unnaturally, extremely suspicious about who this guy was and only let him in after much persuasion (and, who knows, a bit of cash from the producer perhaps). The Jewish guy found it a moving experience and even remembered a couple of items of furniture, a big oak table for example. The Polish owner insisted that he had bought the table 'a couple of years ago.'

Anyway, long story short, the guy went back about six months later and found that the Polish owner had almost completely demolished his own house searching for the 'Jewish gold' that he was convinced must be hidden somewhere.

There are countless urban legends in Poland of people finding gold or gems or other valuable items that were hidden by desperate Jews just before they were carted off to the death camps. I don't know if any of them have been shown to be true.

Of course, you cannot get anything for free from those suspicious and greedy Poles. You have to pay those Pollacks to even get a glass of water.



Surely, those gold-hungry Poles would do anything to get their hands on your precious Jewish gold.



I shall have my own house torn apart to see if there is any Jewish gold left hidden in the walls.

what? guts about killing millions of innocent jews, poles and others?.. guts about stealing a butt load of stuff? guts about destrying thousands of years of history? guts about torturing people? guts about what? tell me more.

LOL ! Looks like BBC really likes polonophobic propaganda.

I've heard that the leprechaun was in reality a Polish midget. Still can't figure out why he wore those nasty green tights though. :)