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island1
  Sep 21, 07, 07:39  #121

Quoting: Grzegorz_
LOL ! Looks like BBC really likes polonophobic propaganda.


Honestly, there wasn't anything phobic about it. As I recall, it was a small segment in the last episode of a series about Auschwitz (I use the German name deliberately). The program makers were clearly completely bemused by the reaction they got, they certainly hadn't set out to confirm some pre-existing stereotype or prejudice.

I'm not referring to you Grzegorz, but it does astonish me how many Poles/Semi-Poles are convinced that all Westerners have nothing but prejudices and negative opinions about Poland. We really don't.

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Firestorm
Edited by: Firestorm  Sep 21, 07, 07:57  #122

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
we at least acknowledged what happened...takes guts to do this...guts you don't have!


Omg Omg.. Roflmao

What Guts..?
Germany rampaged across Europe Murdering and enslaving Millions.
And Burning what you couldn't loot or Steal..
You dont need to admit ANYTHING.

Anyone with a brain knows it was them.
But At least you have guts...
And since when did a German ever listen to anything a Jew said.
Or a Pole for that matter.. Except to hear them beg..


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Lucynda
  Sep 23, 07, 20:27  #123

What was stolen of value?

Not silver candlesticks, not diamonds, antiques, paintings, or furniture. But precious lives.

6 million Jews. 9 million Poles. Millions of Germans.

This is what we should be curious about. Not what happened to property.


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Sivanne
  Sep 24, 07, 05:49  #124

Quoting: Lucynda
6 million Jews. 9 million Poles. Millions of Germans.

This is what we should be curious about. Not what happened to property.


Yes darling, ofcurs that's what we are all curious about!.... But when 95% of your family was murderd by the Nazis in Poland... you realy do want to know every thing you can about how they where before they where murderd, what books did they like to read?how they looked like?...how did there hous looked like?, what was in there hous? what happend to there belongings after they where taken to Auschwitz, what happend to the family album that was left in the hous when they where taken to Auschwitz?... So I am trying to know my family better and there life's in Poland before the war, but it is kind of hard sinds hardly anyone survived.

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 24, 07, 05:57  #125

about 30% of Warszawa was jewish beffore the war.

And it is Warszawa after the war (95% of town totaly destroyed)

grefd

What do you think happened with jewish belongins there ...


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Crazy Horse RV [Guest]
  Sep 24, 07, 13:06  #126

We as free men and women must never forget. It should serve as a reminder of man's inhumanity toward man. Those who have lost family members will probably never be able to forgive.

Just remember, in war there are no winners. There are no loosers either. There are only survivors and most of them are casualties in one form or another.

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Lucynda
  Sep 24, 07, 22:12  #127

Quoting: Sivanne
But when 95% of your family was murderd by the Nazis in Poland... you realy do want to know every thing you can about how they where before they where murderd, what books did they like to read?how they looked like?...


Well, actually some of my family was murdered by the Nazis in Poland! But my tribute to them is to live as full a life as I can. I know this is what they would want for me. As for the injustice and the theft -- that, to me, is something that God will take care of at the last judgment.

If you want to honor your relatives who died, I suggest this -- find a holocaust that is happening now (take the Sudan, for instance) and try and help a few people there. There isn't too much we can do about 1930s and 40s Poland!


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Lucynda
  Sep 24, 07, 22:15  #128

But I support your quest, because everyone has to deal with family pain in their own way. Who am I to judge you?

But I don't think there's a single group of people that hasn't been hurt. Right now, it's Africans. There are so many of them dying....And what about all the innocent Iraqis?


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KONSKIEpelta
  Jan 1, 08, 03:01  #129

my family in Konskie had a lot of personal items in the home including valuables in the wall. they were taken by the current residents of the property and some of them are still there, NOT IN GERMANY OR RUSSIA

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vodka
  Jan 1, 08, 06:09  #130

KONSKIEpelta wrote:
my family in Konskie had a lot of personal items in the home including valuables in the wall. they were taken by the current residents of the property and some of them are still there, NOT IN GERMANY OR RUSSIA


so many Poles have the same problem becuse they were cofiscated by commies, and their properties were given for other people prefered in new commie system.


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isthatu
  Jan 1, 08, 06:30  #131

Actualy,all of mainland europe had the same problem!!!When you have a situation where the 2 largest armies the world has ever seen decide to treat Europe as one big army barmy free for all war theme park you end up with a situation with a serious lack of housing. If a house stays empty just out of respect to the fact the previous owners went up a chimney that would have been a crime in itself. Get over it. Why do you think most europeans dont buy their own property out right?because,Im guessing,history shows its a waste of money as who knows when a bomb will come through the rooof or a tank enter the living room.


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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Jan 1, 08, 07:00  #132

shopgirl wrote:
Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Accepting wrong doings doesn't make you a weakling but gives you a better image internationally!

A better image, period! Everyone has more respect for those who are strong enough to admit a mistake. :)


- One should accept any 'wrongdoings' that actually happened; one should not accept any wrongdoings that have never happened. Accepting the wrongdoings that have never happened shows that one is not strong, but weak and cowardly - and stupid. The Germans, for example, admitted in the past some 'wrongdongs' that have never happened. They allowed themselves to be forced to do that.... They didn't have the guts to say no. And now they are bullying the nations they have badly wronged, especially the Poles and Czechs, to admit some imaginary wrongdoings against the Germans too. The Germans have been carrying on an international hate-propaganda campaign against the Poles and Czechs (the media psychos in other European countries have been supporting the German campaign), in order to force them to make the false confession.

Shopgirl, I can see, still backing up blindly the Nazi creep Buttworst Boy? The cult of brute force, eh Shopgirl?
:)

Sivanne wrote:
I allways wonderd if Polish peopole even this days are fineding some jewish stuff (like picturs, candel holders,books, and so on) in apartaments where jews yoused to live ...or in basements... becoas I know that when the jews went to Auschwitz or other camps, they left there hous's like they were and took hardly nothing with them.
Can anyone help me with that?


- Can, ahem, 'help' you 62 years after the war? How about if you asked for help some Jews too - those who served in the Russian Stalinist security apparatus in Poland, in the years 1945-56? You know, the security apparatus ruled Poland right after the war. Therefore they should be well-infromed about any matters whatsoever, and especially the property matters (all property in Russian communism was made the property of the state, i.e. security apparatus). Some of the Jewish security boys - should I say old boys? - maybe are still alive, enjoying the good life abroad, e.g. in US, UK, Sweden, Israel.... Can you also, by any chance, ask them if they remember the names and faces of the Polish people they tortured and murdered? Good luck in your search.
:)

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Wroclaw Boy
  Jan 1, 08, 07:13  #133

An interesting fact warsaw sustained 108% destruction throughout WWII


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