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celinski
  May 5, 08, 07:34  #31

Harry:
If Stalin had wanted the Poles to just die, why waste all the resources of sending them halfway round the world? Why not just shoot them on the spot?


Harry I would like to ask if you really don't know or if you are trying to hurt the victims with continued denial?

FYI, "Stalin's" plan was to kill Polish, "Siberia" was where he sent them to slave and die. "Stalin" needed slaves and what better use for the Polish.

"halfway round the world", No, look at the location of "Siberia" this is where the train was being built.


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Harry
  May 5, 08, 08:40  #32

Ozi Dan:
To send a message of terror, to prolong the agony, to denigrate and degrade for as long as possible, to show that Poles could be shunted anywhere by the Russians, to demonstrate that life or death was at a whim of the Russians - we could probably go on for quite a while.

That, to use the technical term, is complete b*llocks. If Stalin had wanted them to die, they would have died. Look what happened to the people in Ukraine who pissed Stalin off.

Ozi Dan:
What's your view on the issue? Why did he do those things? There can only be one conclusion can there?

The conclusion would be that he needed slave labour and wanted to prevent the Nazis from having slave labour. He most probably also knew that when the USA finally entered the war, the people he had in Siberia would become valuable bargaining chips thanks to the Jewish and Polish lobbies in the USA.

Ozi Dan:
Harry:
Both of my grandfathers lost two brothers each while fighting for Poland in WWII. And before that there's the small matter of my father's family fleeing genocide in Europe several generations back.

You're a sad specimen Harry if the above is true. Are you angry that your grand uncles died for Poland? I would be too if my ancestors died for a country that sheltered them after fleeing elsewhere from religious persecution.

Why should I be angry? Poland never did a damn thing for any of my family, certainly never offered any shelter.

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z_darius
  May 5, 08, 08:42  #33

Harry:
Poland never did a damn thing for any of my family, certainly never offered any shelter.

Ask not what Poland can do for you. Ask what you can do for Poland. ;)


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celinski
  May 5, 08, 09:10  #34

Survivors of bleak Siberian camps honoured during Polish celebrations
When the Second World War started, Soviet Union forces overran Poland's eastern border and started forcibly sending families to camps in Siberian forests where they worked like slaves.

Some 1.7 million Polish citizens were deported to Siberia. Many were sent to German concentration camps. Thousands perished in the bleak conditions while many of those who survived did not return to a communist Poland after the war ended.

http://news.therecord.com/News/Local/article/345855


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joepilsudski
  May 5, 08, 09:27  #35

Harry:
And what's more (and really pisses Poles off) Jews are far more likely to be the Christ of nations because Christ was a Jew.

Number one, Jesus Christ was not a Jew...how can God be a Jew?...maybe God is actually a Muslim!...Anyway, Jews completely reject Jesus Christ, so if you called them the 'Christ of Nations', they would spit on the ground...why this myth of Christ being a Jew still circulates is due to stupidity on the part of some Christians, and the result of Jewish propaganda...they hate the Man from Galilee, but will use His name when they can profit politically from it.

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z_darius
  May 5, 08, 09:31  #36

joepilsudski:
Number one, Jesus Christ was not a Jew...how can God be a Jew?


Two problems here:

1. Is there God?
2. Was Jesus God?

Before these are solved it's safe to say Jesus was a Jew.


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Easy_Terran
  May 5, 08, 13:15  #37

Harry:
Poland never did a damn thing for any of my family, certainly never offered any shelter.

Bad Poles, cuz it was certainly their DUTY to die for you.


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Zgubiony
  May 5, 08, 13:17  #38

joepilsudski:
Jesus Christ was not a Jew...how can God be a Jew?...

Hmmm I thought these were 2 different people. maybe religion isn't my thing :)



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IronsE11
Edited by: IronsE11  May 5, 08, 13:23  #39

Zgubiony:
Hmmm I thought these were 2 different people. maybe religion isn't my thing :)


Some people believe that the former was the child of the latter and a virgin named Mary. No really, some people actually believe this.

*chuckles*

*Can I just ask the mods why the word *s.n.i.g.g.e.r.s* is replaced by **********?

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Zgubiony
  May 5, 08, 13:25  #40

IronsE11:
Some people believe that the former was the child of the latter and a virgin named Mary. No really, some people actually believe this.

Yeah...heard sth about this. Doesn't seem too realistic though. Good tale though :)



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IronsE11
  May 5, 08, 13:28  #41

Zgubiony:
Yeah...heard sth about this. Doesn't seem too realistic though. Good tale though :)


Yeah, what's amusing is that some people actually devote their lives to it.

*holds head in hands and weeps*

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Harry
  May 5, 08, 13:37  #42

Easy_Terran:
Bad Poles, cuz it was certainly their DUTY to die for you.

You seem to have that one the wrong way round: Poland was invaded by Germany and Britain declared war on and attacked Germany to help Poland. Britain refused all German offers of peace because they did not include an independent Poland. Britain had no obligation to assist Poland but did so. Hundreds of thousands of British people lost their lives fighting the Nazis. Fighting in a war which they did not have to fight. Hitler had no argument with Britain and viewed the people of Britain as natural allies of the Aryans.

But instead of a single word of thanks, all Poles ever talk of is ‘western betrayal’.

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celinski
  May 5, 08, 13:48  #43

Harry:
You seem to have that one the wrong way round:


Harry, May I ask where you have learned your history?


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Easy_Terran
  May 5, 08, 14:26  #44

Harry:
Britain declared war on and attacked Germany to help Poland
They must have been helping by flying German Messerschmits and manning Wehrmacht troops in Poland.

Harry:
Britain had no obligation to assist Poland but did so
Usually when two parties sign a treaty, none of them has any obligations to the other one.

Harry:
Hundreds of thousands of British people lost their lives fighting the Nazis.
Thousands of Polish pilots lost their lives fighting for Britain. Hundred of thousands Polish soldiers lost their lives fighting the GERMAN Nazis off on every European front you can only think of.

And you wrote historic books? What a joke...


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joepilsudski
  May 5, 08, 15:04  #45

z_darius:
Before these are solved it's safe to say Jesus was a Jew.


Have you read any of the New Testament?...where does Jesus say 'I am a Jew'?...He does say 'Before Abraham was, I AM'...now, you must understand that the Pharisees who plotted against Jesus, and who Jesus called 'sons of your father, the devil', are considered by religious Jews to be their spiritual fathers...following your logic, if Jesus 'was a Jew', he must have been a 'self-hating' Jew...but, of course Jesus was not a Jew...apparently, from the Gospel of Luke, he was circumcized...does this make one a Jew?...Arabs also practiced circumcision...the religion of the Pharisees was the dominant 'religion' in Judea at the time...so, because Jesus WAS a minister and religious teacher, he had contact and conflict with this particular religious sect...but as I stated, since Jesus wasn't a Pharisee,
and the Pharisees were what are today called 'Jews', Jesus wasn't a 'Jew'...by the way, when the word 'Jew' appears in modern bibles, it is mostly a mistranslation...in Greek it would be 'Iudean' which means a resident of Judea...the Hebrew word most often mistranslated as 'Jew' is 'Yehudi' which actually means 'praise.

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osiol
  May 5, 08, 15:09  #46

joepilsudski:
where does Jesus say 'I am a Jew'?...

He didn't need to. He was already surrounded by other Jews. I believe Aramaic (as Jesus spoke) was the dominant language amongst the Jews of his day.


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  May 5, 08, 15:09  #47

Harry:
Jewish and Polish lobbies in the USA.

Polish Lobby?

Next you will tell us Poles own & control the media, Wall Street and the banks!...I love it!...Polish Lobby!...do you think the Polish Lobby can help me get some funding for a trip to Poland?...I want to make aliyah!

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Harry
  May 5, 08, 15:13  #48

Easy_Terran:
Thousands of Polish pilots lost their lives fighting for Britain.

Well there's a lie for a start. Go and have a look at the Polish War Memorial at RAF Northolt and count how many names are on it.

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joepilsudski
  May 5, 08, 15:16  #49

osiol:
He didn't need to. He was already surrounded by other Jews. I believe Aramaic (as Jesus spoke) was the dominant language amongst the Jews of his day.


By that logic, George Bush is a Jew, as he is surrounded by them...except in George's case it may be true...Aramaic was widely spoken among Judeans, as was Greek and other dialects.

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Easy_Terran
  May 5, 08, 15:22  #50

Harry:
Well there's a lie for a start.

Ok, let me rephrase it:

thousands of Polish pilots were fighting for Britain and were not killed because they were sooo good.

Better?


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Harry
  May 5, 08, 15:57  #51

Easy_Terran:
Ok, let me rephrase it:

thousands of Polish pilots were fighting for Britain and were not killed because they were sooo good.

Better?

No.

They were fighting for Poland. Britain didn't need anybody to fight for her: Germany offered peace anytime and with no conditions other than being able to do as she wished east of her 1939 borders.

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Easy_Terran
  May 5, 08, 16:04  #52

Harry:
They were fighting for Poland.
No, they were fighting the Germans off.

Harry:
Germany offered peace anytime and with no conditions
And that's why TREATIES have been signed for centuries, you ignorant, poor bugger, to FOLLOW THEM!

But you know what?
Live in your beautiful world where Poland is responsible for WWII and all its atrocities.


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  May 5, 08, 16:10  #53

Harry:
Bigotry and racism...alive and well.......
Sure is in Poland.


Here's a quote from the great Jewish humanitarian Rafi Eitan, who ran the Jewish spy Jonathan Pollard in America...Pollard, incidentally, sold tons of American military secrets, like missile codes, to Israel, who then sold them to the former Soviet Union...Eitan, by the way, now has orange groves and a juice factory in Cuba, provided to him by his friend Fidel Castro...

Rafi Eitan:
"The Arabs will never defeat us by throwing stones. Our answer will be a nationalist Zionist solution. For every stone throwing - we'll establish ten settlements. If there will be - and there will be - a hundred settlements between Nablus and Jerusalem, no stones will be thrown. If that shall be the case, the Arabs could only run around like cockroaches in a bottle, like drugged cockroaches inside a bottle"


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Grzegorz_
  May 5, 08, 16:13  #54

Har is just a little xenophobic and egocentric creature...


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joepilsudski
  May 5, 08, 16:17  #55

Harry:
No.

They were fighting for Poland. Britain didn't need anybody to fight for her: Germany offered peace anytime and with no conditions other than being able to do as she wished east of her 1939 borders.


Actually, this is very true...but why didn't Britain choose peace, instead of a war that impoverished her people and ended the British Empire?...it doesn't make sense...what fight had Britain with Germany?...were there unknown factors here?

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Harry
Edited by: Harry  May 5, 08, 16:17  #56

Grzegorz_:
Har is just a little xenophobic and egocentric creature...

Yes of course, I hate foreigners so much that I chose to live surrounded by them. That makes perfect sense.

joepilsudski:
Actually, this is very true...but why didn't Britain choose peace, instead of a war that impoverished her people and ended the British Empire?

Misplaced sense of loyalty to Poland (with hindsight there was no way Britain was ever going to free Poland; if the Nazis didn't get Poland, the Soviets surely would, either way Poles were going to and did blame the British), pointless sense of honour and standing by one's word, complete lack of understanding about what Hitler really wanted, and an over-optimistic view of how strong the Empire/Commonwealth was.

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joepilsudski
  May 5, 08, 16:25  #57

Harry:
Misplaced sense of loyalty to Poland (with hindsight there was no way Britain was ever going to free Poland; if the Nazis didn't get Poland, the Soviets surely would, either way Poles were going to and did blame the British), pointless sense of honour and standing by one's word, complete lack of understanding about what Hitler really wanted, and an over-optimistic view of how strong the Empire/Commonwealth was.


Interesting...maybe Churchill had bad advisers...I know that Lord Halifax was one.

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Harry
  May 5, 08, 16:37  #58

joepilsudski:
maybe Churchill had bad advisers...I know that Lord Halifax was one.

Sure as hell did. But he also understood a lot about how things were going to go down after the war ended. Remember that he sent British forces to liberate Denmark despite it being of precisely bugger all strategic importance in the war against Germany at that point in time. He wanted the British army to push along the coast (Gdansk being the target) but the Americans favoured a north/south front. It was him who proposed sending planes to resupply Warsaw during the Uprising and then on to land at the USAAF bases in Ukraine even after Stalin had said those bases could not be used. Roosevelt was the one who refused to do that to "Uncle Joe" (and as the USAAF had all the long-range P51 fighters needed to provide cover over Germany, that was that).

And remember it was Churchill who coined the phrase 'iron curtain'.

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Easy_Terran
  May 5, 08, 17:09  #59

Harry:
Misplaced sense of loyalty to Poland

Are you retarded or something?
Mispleaced loyalty? TREATY, bugger, TREATY.


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  May 5, 08, 17:44  #60

Harry:
And remember it was Churchill who coined the phrase 'iron curtain'.

Yes, it was...Well, Roosevelt had his own plans and 'advisers'...so did General Eisenhower when he was in London before the Normandy landing...by the name of Warburg...General Patton was ready to take it right to Berlin, but Eisenhower said 'no'...Patton was horrified when he met some of the top Russian Genreals at a special dinner after the war ended...One of these Generals, when Patton asked him about rumours of atrocities and rapes by the advancing Red Army in Germany, told him, 'You see, there is always a certain criminal element in any army...but by turning loose this element, it makes it easier for army to advance, and pacify the civilians'...true story.

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