Jewish Hatred toward Polish

Actually, some Poles take a tongue in cheek kind of pride in the fact that Felix Dzerzhinsky was Polish. After all he's responsible for killing the largest number of communists.

Whats the easiest way to control an entire nation? Throw fear! Thats why they build the camps and sent people to Seberia. Some people disapeared forever, some came back to tell the horror stories. Everything was unsurtin. People were scared.

What even better was Hitler and Stalin were taking over Poland and spliting the country.

Carol, have you ever considered reading a history book? One which doesn't involve listing over 950 pages the suffering of your family, I mean.

There were no practising Jews in the Nazi military. There were some Mischling (Germans with one of more Jewish grandparents) until 8 April 1940 but then Hitler ordered all of them to be withdrawn from military service. The only way any person with Jewish blood could get into the German military was with a German Blood Certificate, which were each personally reviewed and approved by Hitler.

Rigg's book documented 1,671 soldiers of Jewish descent who served in the Wehrmacht and/or the SS, or the Waffen-SS, and they vary from soldiers to admirals and even a field marshal.

perhaps up to 150,000 Mischlinge served in the Wehrmacht during Hitler's reign.

http://academic.kellogg.edu/mandel/pritchard_rev.htm

Keep reading Harry.

^ Well fecking done Carol.

Now perhaps you would like to get somebody to explain the phrases "practising Jew" and "or Jewish descent" to you.


And congratulations for making a whole post without whining about how unfair it is that none of your family were included in the holocaust.

Illuminati Bankers Hired Hitler to Start WW2
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
March 2, 2007


http://www.savethemales.ca/001936.html

Harry,

I see your catching on, it's all in the mighty $$$.

Way to go Harry!
No practising Jews in Hitler's army, no story, game over, no case.

Give me a break.

How much $ is your Mother worth, how about your father? Personally I love mine to much to sell them for all the money in the world.

Back to the question, why do the Jewish have so much hate for Polish and her people? Could it be the truth might be told? I do not say I blame all Jews, Russian's or German's. It just gets sick hearing all the lies and partial truths. Sorry Harry, Jewish are not the only victims in WW2.

While I'm on the subject, why are you even in Poland (if you are) if you dislike her so much?

What were such ideological opponents like Hitler and Lenin doing playing chess in Vienna in 1909 way before they would eventually assume power in Germany and Russia? Bratwurst could you translate to us the following?

... said pot to the kettle.

Ooookay...let's see...

It says:

It's a real pity that you weren't alive in the 1930s. If you had been, two things would have happened: firstly there would be a good chance that you wouldn't be clogging up these boards with your pathetic whining and theories about how Illuminati bankers paid Hitler to start WWII and Jews were entirely responsible for everything Stalin ever did; secondly, you would have been the ideal postergirl for Nazi racial policies.

Hi Harry. You have been strangely absent from this threat.

personally Harry I try to keep an open mind to even "Nazi". I keep in mind that it was Soviets that killed and sent my loved ones to Siberia. When Germany attacked Russia, Germany was seen as the liberators. If not for this attack the Polish sent to Siberia were not intended to live.

Thats an interesting statement which probably requires a bit more explanation.

What's to say?

Some Poles helped Jews during the holocaust. We all know that and acknowledge that. Look how many of the Righteous Among the Nations are Poles (6,066 at last count).

Some Poles killed Jews; before, during (Polnisches Schutzmannschaftsbataillon 202 anybody? Polnische Polizei im Generalgouvernement? ) and after the holocaust. Unfortunately a lot of Poles say that 'those Jews were killed by Germans' and/or 'only a few Jews were killed' and/or 'the Jews deserved it anyway' and/or 'why does everybody talk about how the Jews suffered but nobody will talk about how my Catholic Polish families suffered in Siberia in camps which were run by Jews'.


Then again, we've got to remember that Jews also killed Jews during the holocaust. Most sources agree that the Polish Blue Police were generally less feared by Jews than the Jewish Kripo.

Good point.

I saw a documentary, an interview with a Ghetto survivor. In his words (paraphrased), a Jewish kid was given a piece of advice: if you want to squeeze past a German checkpoint, it may work; past Ukrainian checkpoint it would be tough. Don't even try to fool Jewish kripos.

And again, that's the whole point. WW2 showed how some people can be absolutely selfless, while others absolutely worthless. None of that justifies statements that "Poles" did this of that. Some did good, and some did evil things. Neither can be used to generalize and define the whole nation - Polish, or Jewish.

You're missing the article. None of it would justify statements that "The Poles did x and y". Using the definite article would mean 'all Poles'. However, remove the article so you get "Poles did x and y" and it means 'some Poles'. However, many Poles refuse to admit that some Poles did kill Jews during and after the holocaust. They will deny that any Poles did that and will get angry at the person who pointed out that some most certainly did.

Both Hitler and Stalin planned to kill, take over, split Poland. In the USA I was always taught in school it was Nazi's.

When my family were sent to Siberia it was to work as a slave until death. This was on Stalin's orders. If Germany had not attacked Soviets I feel I would not be here today. The only reason the Polish were given amnesty was Soviets were getting there but*'s kicked. This did not mean Stalin decided he cared about the people of Poland. He simply had a new use for us.

But this doesnt require an open mind to the Nazis, just an acceptence of the evil of the Soviets.

In the US it does. Prior to 1989 it was unspeakable to question Nazi's negative role not being the only one. I would love to see a pole on the statistics of US students that do not know the extent of Soviet behavior or Jewish for that matter.

How many studies are there on the positive that Nazi's have done? Yet amnesty by Stalin was shown as helping the Polish. How many articles have you read "Sept. 1939 Hitler attacks Poland". Yet why are there no articles "Sept. 1939 Stalin attacks Poland". Yes I find articles that list both, it is rare with the blame on just Stalin as it is with Hitler.


As far as the Jewish, I would not point this out but due to the fact they have turned Polish into villains. Truth be known the Jewish and Catholic's where my family lived had no issues with each other prior to Soviet attacks. It was a divide and concurs mentality brought about that shattered this relationship.

Very rarely do we see documents from Polish non Jewish victims or even observers of Nazi gas chambers. With Polish being blamed for everything under the sun, how often do we hear of their role in this area? To question this is unspeakable. Yet even the numbers don’t add up. I do not say that this was not used as a method of killings, I do question why we are not able to question it?

In the USA WW2 was a crime commited on mainly Jewish directed by Nazi's. This mind set needs to be challanged on a larger scale. IMO WW2 was a crime commited on Polish and directed by Nazi and Stalin. Stalin ended up with Poland in the end, this fact alone speaks for itself.

Got to love your anti-semitism Carol, it's just so reliable. Nearly as beautiful as the way that you blame the victims of crimes committed by Poles for the Poles who committed those crimes being blamed for those crimes.

Where exactly did you family manage to live? Attacks by Poles against Jews were very common in the 25 years before the Soviet invasion. The Morgenthau report details eight major incidents (i.e. pogroms) in the years 1918 and 1919 alone. Presumably to you the segregated seating, the ghetto benches, at Polish universities from 1935 onwards was a sign of the deep love Poles had for Jews? As was the numerus clausus law limiting Jewish access to universities. That was finally introduced in 1937, although Poland had been attempting to introduce it from 1923 onwards (well before the Nazis came to anything close to power). The way Jews were banned from claiming state welfare benfits in 1930s Poland also shows how there were no issues, eh? Just like the Polish doctors’ association and lawyers’ association banning Jews from becoming members. Was that before or after the Soviet attack Carol?

Pray tell and where did they want to live Harry? I believe they wanted to live in Poland and yes things were changing. I believe the Jewish wanted there own State within Poland, not a Polish Country, but a seperate country that would be just Jewish. This was not something Poland would do. Do you know of anyother country's that would have? Seems to me the Jewish liked living in Poland. Is there a reason why you can't talk without using insults?



I see as long as you pick the topic were all set. Sorry Harry asking questions does not make one anti anything. By your understanding you can trash the Polish, just don't question the history of Jewish.

As for the question of the Nazi's,

'They raped every German female from eight to 80'


Antony Beevor, author of the acclaimed new book about the fall of Berlin, on a massive war crime committed by the victorious Red Army.

http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,707928,00.html

Yes they also were victims. In fact wasn't it there land that was taken by Stalin to pay for the land he took from Poland.

It's time to move on Carol, you cant blame Jews for everything!!...it's not good to dwell BTW I'm of Jewish decent ;-)

Where do you draw a line between asking questions and blame?

Do you know that when my Grandmother died a Jewish couple in South Africa took my father in and cared for him. They did not have to, they did this because of a beautiful heart. I am not anti-Semitic due to asking questions.

Asking questions is one thing, your tone is quite accusing....

You seem to think that the Jews are after taking over the world, but if that's what you believe then go ahead, some people think that America is the cause of all the worlds problems and should keep their sticky fingers to their selves

You can't even write a single paragraph that makes sense. First you claim that the Jews wanted a seperate country. Then you claim that they liked living in Poland.

Are these the same Jews who are to held to account for causing the world to consider Polish criminals as villans?


I can talk without using insults. I simply choose not to when talking at you because you are a bigoted boring fukwit.

You want to see tone go to Polish hatred toward Jewish. I don't think it's fair to not be able to question without being told you are "anti" anything. I am sorry if you take it this way, I assure you if you knew me as my American Jewish friends do you would understand I question history and live in the present.



Now you may be on to something, who could we blame seeing as how we live side by side.