Asbestos removal jobs for Poles in the UK

MalcolmThreads: 1 Posts: 4 Joined: Aug 26, 11 ♂	Aug 26, 11, 15:16 #1
1st post on this site. I work for a company in Manchester who supply Asbestos Removal Comapnies with Asbestos Removal Operatives. If you are an asbestos removal operative, please feel free to drop me a line as we have well paid work all over the UK.

JamalBakshi	Aug 26, 11, 15:53 #2
Asbestos? What is this?

isthatu2Threads: 13 Posts: 5,225 Joined: Apr 3, 08 ♂	Aug 26, 11, 15:56 #3
If you dont know Jamal,sorry,you aint qualified for the job.:( It can be very nasty stuff,but a quick google will tell you that.

♂

Aug 26, 11, 17:46 #4

Asbestos? What is this?

Asbestos was extensively used as a building material in the UK from the 1950s through to the mid-1980s. It was used for a variety of purposes and was ideal for fireproofing and insulation. Any building built before 2000 (houses, factories, offices, schools, hospitals etc) can contain asbestos. Asbestos materials in good condition are safe unless asbestos fibres become airborne, which happens when materials are damaged.

peter_olsztynThreads: 8 Posts: 760 Joined: Apr 18, 07 ♂	Aug 26, 11, 18:15 #5
Asbestos? What is this? carcinogenic fibre if inhaled

♂

Aug 26, 11, 18:40 #6

Asbestos very bad...Carcinogenic to the extreme...If you remove, insure that you have protective breathing apparatus.

There is a whole segment of the legal industry in the USA that lives off of money from asbestos liability cases.

One of the reasons the WTC was brought down was because it was filled with asbestos installed when it was built...The State of NY was pushing the owners to remove the material, as required by state law...Asbestos is a fire retardent...An estimate was made on the cost of removing the asbestos from WTC 1/2 in the late 1990s...The estimated cost of the removal was somewhere in the neighborhood of $1-2 billion...It was easier to take it down for the insurance money, and more profitable...Insurance payout was around $5.5 billion.

PlasticPoleThreads: 10 Posts: 5,432 Joined: May 28, 09 ♀	Aug 26, 11, 19:18 #7
The world trade center collapsed because asbestos DUST needed containing? Is this your attempt at irony?

♂

Edited by: joepilsudski Aug 26, 11, 22:16 #8

The world trade center collapsed because asbestos DUST needed containing? Is this your attempt at irony?

Not to get off topic and disturb moderators, but yes: State of NY was asking that asbestos be completely removed from WTC 1/2...Former owners, NY Port Authority (although NY State Teachers Fund was also mortgagee) had study done to see what cost of asbestos removal would be...It was quite high...Because of this, along with other financial reasons, Port Authority 'privatized'/sold complex to Larry Silverstein & Westfield Group, shopping mall developers...Silverstein was not going to pay $1-2 billion for asbestos removal....WTC was brought down for political reasons and to destroy evidence of financial wrong doings contained in voluminous records stored in various offices in complex...A big side benefit was simply collection of insurance money...Silverstein insured complex against terrorist attack in early 2001; then, after 911, claimed WTC was hit by 2 attacks, and made double claim for $7 billion...Insurance company based in Switzerland eventually settled with him for about $5.5 billion.

Of course, Silverstein didn't collect all of this and put it in his pocket: he had partners...But say, he kept 2%: that's $100+ million.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Aug 26, 11, 22:17 #9
Asbestos removal jobs for Poles in the UK again cannon fodders???? again?????

♂

Edited by: catsoldier Aug 26, 11, 22:36 #10

I work for a company in Manchester who supply Asbestos Removal Comapnies with Asbestos Removal Operatives[i][/i].

I wouldn't trust any company that isn't employing people directly to do this dangerous work, it looks like they are trying to avoid an liability if the operators have an accident and become ill. It would be a nightmare to get medical bills paid because there are two companies involved and one will try to say it is the others responsibility and vica versa. They will probably try to cut corners on safety also.

Your life isn't worth this, do not work for these companies.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/

More than likely this is only a trolling post as it is so inflammatory.

catsoldierThreads: 90 Posts: 698 Joined: Sep 27, 09 ♂	Edited by: catsoldier Aug 26, 11, 22:46 #11
Po Polsku http://www.pip.gov.pl/html/pl/doc/07040069.pdf Just looking at this PDF file and it looks really good. In fairness Polish people probably are well aware of how bad employers can be.

♂

Edited by: Sidliste_Chodov Aug 27, 11, 00:27 #12

Not to get off topic and disturb moderators, but yes: State of NY was asking that asbestos be completely removed from WTC 1/2...Former owners, NY Port Authority (although NY State Teachers Fund was also mortgagee) had study done to see what cost of asbestos removal would be...It was quite high...Because of this, along with other financial reasons, Port Authority 'privatized'/sold complex to Larry Silverstein & Westfield Group, shopping mall developers...Silverstein was not going to pay $1-2 billion for asbestos removal....WTC was brought down for political reasons and to destroy evidence of financial wrong doings contained in voluminous records stored in various offices in complex...A big side benefit was simply collection of insurance money...Silverstein insured complex against terrorist attack in early 2001; then, after 911, claimed WTC was hit by 2 attacks, and made double claim for $7 billion...Insurance company based in Switzerland eventually settled with him for about $5.5 billion.

Of course, Silverstein didn't collect all of this and put it in his pocket: he had partners...But say, he kept 2%: that's $100+ million.

A post about asbestos turns into a post about the "Jewish conspiracy" within eight replies. Only on this forum...

Asbestos removal jobs for Poles in the UK

Never mind removing asbestos, how about removing the racist and illegal description above? This **** killed my dad, so you can **** off, troll.

modafinilThreads: - Posts: 831 Joined: Jun 28, 11 ♂	Aug 27, 11, 07:29 #13
Never mind removing asbestos, how about removing the racist and illegal description above? Not necessarily. The OP is posting on a Polish website for skilled(in the field) workers and not saying that they must be Poles.

peter_olsztynThreads: 8 Posts: 760 Joined: Apr 18, 07 ♂	Edited by: peter_olsztyn Aug 27, 11, 11:23 #14
More than likely this is only a trolling post as it is so inflammatory. Whatever, this days we (Poles) have deep in the a jobs like that so we pass by with a pitying look.

catsoldierThreads: 90 Posts: 698 Joined: Sep 27, 09 ♂	Aug 27, 11, 13:15 #15
Whatever, this days we (Poles) have deep in the a jobs like that so we pass by with a pitying look. I don't understand what you have written. If it is that I look down on Poles for doing certain jobs I don't. Asbestos is lethal.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Aug 27, 11, 13:20 #16
This chemical killed my roommate from Hiroshima. He died from sth called mesothelemia. It sits in your lungs and kills you later.

♂

Aug 27, 11, 14:09 #17

Not necessarily. The OP is posting on a Polish website for skilled(in the field) workers and not saying that they must be Poles.

If this was an advert in a newspaper, it would be illegal. You can't specify a particular ethnicity or race in job advertisements in this country. That is what was implied by the "...for Poles" bit - targeting Poles, for a job which can be done by anyone with the right training. Asking for speakers of a certain language, is sometimes acceptable, if it's an absolute requirement to do the job (e.g. Urdu speaker required to provide a service to a group of Pakistani women, where the majority of the service users are unable to speak English enough to understand the service provider). If it simply said "Asbestos removal jobs available in the UK" it would have been fine.

There's also a nasty subtext to this. it appears that if you want to employ people in a dangerous occupation, in a manner which suggests that he may be trying to get around some health & safety laws, then you may as well employ Poles, because that's all they are fit for (unlike British workers, who will rightly demand the appropriate levels of safety). I think it's laughable that the mods allow this kind of thing on here; but then, it does fit their anti-Polish "on-topic only" agenda, doesn't it?

♂

Aug 27, 11, 15:11 #18

It would be illegal in this country(UK) outright, but it does not explicitly say they must be Polish and is writing an advert in what can be deemed Polish Press. It simply says there are jobs available for Poles.

I checked the website they are registered with the HSE and other accreditors of which I haven't heard . If you have doubts about the company's safety you must report it.
Here you go - http://www.tradeslinkasbestos.co.uk/ let us know how it turns out.

peter_olsztynThreads: 8 Posts: 760 Joined: Apr 18, 07 ♂	Aug 27, 11, 23:39 #19
I don't understand what you have written. I'm still learning English ;) this is only a trolling post no matter what kind of initial post is, today we (Poles) have deep in the a$$ jobs like that so we pass by such adverts with a pitying look :)

catsoldierThreads: 90 Posts: 698 Joined: Sep 27, 09 ♂	Aug 28, 11, 00:50 #20
I'm still learning English ;) That's great, best of luck with it.

♂

Aug 28, 11, 09:18 #21

It would be illegal in this country(UK) outright, but it does not explicitly say they must be Polish and is writing an advert in what can be deemed Polish Press. It simply says there are jobs available for Poles.

This forum is full of non-Poles. The test would therefore be for an English person to apply for the job, and see if they are told "sorry, we're looking for Polish workers". Anyone with a good command of English would be right to assume that the above advert implies that they want "Polish workers" (or favour them). Even though this is a (so-called) Polish forum, the word "Poles" was simply unnecessary.

Not getting at you, just making a point ;)

I checked the website they are registered with the HSE and other accreditors of which I haven't heard . If you have doubts about the company's safety you must report it.
Here you go - http://www.tradeslinkasbestos.co.uk/ let us know how it turns out.

I think this is one for catsoldier, he made the initial point ;)

♂

Aug 28, 11, 11:57 #22

Yes, the use of Poles is excessive in this targeted advert. Also, it can be read in the sense of Poles who are already in the UK, which also would be insinuating that their are jobs that Poles are excluded from having!
In comparison to the offers to reply to Hotmail/Gmail, this one is far more ligit.
A person with the skills/certificates may already know the going rates. Am I naive in thinking that people enquiring have the sensibilities to decide for themselves, without the types here that feel the need to protect their compatriots from the evils of the world. These commentators appear to say, implicitly, ' I am worldly-wise, and know whats best for my people who are too dim/sheltered to think for themselves'. I'm not directing this at you personally.

catsoldierThreads: 90 Posts: 698 Joined: Sep 27, 09 ♂	Edited by: catsoldier Aug 28, 11, 15:11 #23
These commentators appear to say, implicitly, ' I am worldly-wise, and know whats best for my people who are too dim/sheltered to think for themselves'. In fairness Polish people probably are well aware of how bad employers can be. See above post. If people read the previous posts on a thread I think that there would be a lot less misunderstandings.

♂

Oct 12, 11, 15:20 #24

I wouldn't trust any company that isn't employing people directly to do this dangerous work, it looks like they are trying to avoid an liability if the operators have an accident and become ill. It would be a nightmare to get medical bills paid because there are two companies involved and one will try to say it is the others responsibility and vica versa. They will probably try to cut corners on safety also.

Your life isn't worth this, do not work for these companies.

More than likely this is only a trolling post as it is so inflammatory.

Catsoldier...more than likely is that you know nothing about the asbestos removal industry in the UK, how it works, who we are & who our clients are.

This, as far as I'm aware is a forum targeting Polish people, so as we already have lots of Polish lads doing a great job for us, I thought I'd mention on this website that if anybody who is ALREADY QUALIFIED to remove asbestos and ios looking for work in the UK, then get in touch.

I find it a little sad that somebody who is offering work to people in these tough economic times gets a response such as yours.

hythornThreads: 6 Posts: 843 Joined: Feb 21, 08 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 15:21 #25
I find it a little sad that somebody who is offering work to people in these tough economic times gets a response such as yours. fair play to you Malcolm thanks for posting

♂

Oct 12, 11, 15:24 #26

Never mind removing asbestos, how about removing the racist and illegal description above? This **** killed my dad, so you can **** off, troll.

I'm sorry to hear about your father, but I'm not sure how you think this is racist & illegal.
Surely it would be racist & illegal if I posted that I have loads of asbestos removal work available, but didn't want any Polish people?
I'm offering genuine work & you tell me where to go? Dear oh dear.

MEMBER ♂

Oct 12, 11, 15:41 #27

Get over yourself guys as he is looking for trained operatives, not any Tom, Dick, or Harry.
On my understanding of this job you need to be licensed to do this work and I seem to remember that quite a lot of this work goes on in Gdansk, when they removed the asbestos from an old Ship Liner before turning it into a Hotel in Amsterdam.

If someone advertised on a British forum asking for Brits to go out to the UAE to work in the oil industry would you think I would get all pedantic about it.

Oh my look at this: More Brits needed to work at the EU

hythornThreads: 6 Posts: 843 Joined: Feb 21, 08 ♂	Oct 12, 11, 15:49 #28
if they found asbestos in their attic they would sh!t themselves and get straight on the phone to someone to come and clean it up for them Malcolm do you know www.gumtree.pl ? that is a good site to find workers

♂

Oct 12, 11, 16:00 #29

Malcolm do you know www.gumtree.pl ?

that is a good site to find workers

Thanks Hythorn.

Just to clear things up for all of the people who are/were worried about my post being racist, illegal, dangeous or anything else........
We employ anybody who is qualified & good at their job regardless of colour, creed, nationality, religion etc etc. (as long as they have the authority to work in the UK)
We have English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Polish, Russian, Latvian, Ukranian, Macedonian etc lads working for us, so I apologise if my original post was misleading.

However, things have quietened down since my original post, so we don't have much work on at the moment. The busiest time for LICENSED asbestos removal operatives in the UK is from May to September when all of the schools are closed down (as most UK schools are riddled with asbestos).

Hope this clears things up for all of the naysayers.

Liam	Dec 19, 11, 19:43 #30
Malcolm I am an asbestos remover looking for work any jobs going for an immediate start

POLAND . The Unofficial Guide	Unanswered \| Archives
POLAND . The Unofficial Guide	Poland Now and Then	Witamy, Guest \| PF Members \| Gold Members

Home \| Unanswered \| Archives \| Random \| Statistics	Time in Poland: 21:30 / May 26
About Us \| Contact Us \| Rules, Privacy \| Poland Advertising	© 2005-12 PolishForums.com