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Live in Carer Wanted for Isle of Wight UK Full Time

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Nov 20, 10, 09:02 #1

Wanted Female Live in Carer for elderly 71 woman must be able to speak good english full time job you will work will two other carers one of which is head carer we have done this as my mother is very demanding and can be aggresive your hour hours will be varied as to cover days off and holidays breaks etc. We are a very good Family to work for and the emphasis is on being of the right character and very kind and patient we have three carers so all of you have the time to do your job and have you time for yourself I am in Austraila and will be doing the hiring once the position has been filled you will liaise with the senior carer and my sisters who all live on the isle of wight which is a short ferry trip from southampton or portsmouth.
Please no male appilication as my mother was the subject of abuse whislt in hospital and only trusts female staff want to know morecontact me on my Email address gregson2_2000@yahoo.com.

terriThreads: 1 Posts: 385 Joined: May 3, 09 ♀	Nov 20, 10, 10:48 #2
You don't exactly say how much you are willing to pay per hour for this very demanding job....

greg and trudiThreads: 1 Posts: 2 Joined: Nov 20, 10 ♂	Nov 20, 10, 13:31 #3
If you want to discuss wages etc it is to be done through my email and it is not really that demanding as I dont know of any positions looking after one person that has three people doing this please we are only looking for people who are intrested in the position.

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Nov 20, 10, 16:03 #4

greg and trudi:

If you want to discuss wages etc it is to be done through my email and it is not really that demanding as I dont know of any positions looking after one person that has three people doing this please we are only looking for people who are intrested in the position.

I trust that you are paying people through the PAYE system, with NI and tax deducted at source?

I also trust that any Polish carer will be fully legal in the UK in accordance with the WRS system?

terriThreads: 1 Posts: 385 Joined: May 3, 09 ♀	Nov 20, 10, 16:11 #5
Without wanting to sound ungrateful, I think that the position will not pay much as you are living in, the most you will get ios £30-£40 per week pocket money. In order to pay £5.90 per hour (minimum wage) for say 30 hours work, it would cost the employer over £200 to employ this person.

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Nov 21, 10, 04:01 #6

What is going on I put a simple ad in and all this negative response if anyone is interested they should contact ME.We are looking for a carer now qualifications are not the piroty here as we have a fully qualified phyiso nurse as one from romanina and a senior carer who is at the highest level and has 20 years experience I was trying to give somebody a chance who was a good soul who if worked out could get there exams maybe but I have been burnt here before.I am paying 7 pounds an hour as a lot of these duties will be walking her dogs housework cooking ect.I have been told over and over I dont need this many people but in a emergency we had to get a care firm in and they charged me 19 pounds and hour for this young polish girl who could not speak english kept leaving my mum had issuies with bathing her etc it was a nightmare it turned out we were the fourth place she had been sent she had all the papers but had no idea.I believe very strongly in the EU as I worked in Europe in the eighties so I am not making prejudices against anyone from any country because it never worked the time before I just thought why not give someone else a chance and deal directly with them.I will give them their own room and food etc and 7 pounds an hour, the other carers are happy but they need cover and these agenicies are parasites.Im sorry but this is hard work and very time consuming my wife and I have had to spent nine months in the Uk we got back to Oz in may and we are still trying to get on with our lives. I guess we want a good person qualified is not the issue as like I said they will be with the other women who are experience often counts more. I know it will be full time hours and will be organised by the head carer it will be self employed my accountant will sort that out.
If anyone can help or knows of somebody who is genuine I would be so grateful.
I would prefer to do this via my email as I havent time to constantly check this site I dont really want to use the phone the time dirrerence will be a problem.
Thank you.

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Edited by: guesswho Nov 21, 10, 04:07 #7

greg and trudi:

in a emergency we had to get a care firm in and they charged me 19 pounds and hour for this young polish girl who could not speak english kept leaving my mum had issuies with bathing her etc it was a nightmare it turned out we were the fourth place she had been sent she had all the papers but had no idea

hm, if you guys got burned by employing Poles that bad, I don't understand why you want to take the same risk again? Obviously it doesn't mean that the next girl will be as worthless as the previous one but it's a very high risk to take, especially because the life of your mom is at stake.

resident grubas	Nov 21, 10, 21:29 #8
guesswho: hm, if you guys got burned by employing Poles that bad, What nationality has to do with their problem?They hired this girl THRU AN AGENCY.Poles or not NOBODY wants to be a slave.He paid the agency 19/h, how much do you think the girl was getting?6?If he paid her directly 10/h everyone would be happy.You always get what you pay for.

resident grubas	Nov 21, 10, 21:34 #9
[quote=guesswho] Why don't you get this job?You speak good English.Why do people think that any qualified Pole will work french fries?Because he/she is a Pole?Get a life.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Nov 21, 10, 21:42 #10
resident grubas: Why don't you get this job?You speak good English.Why do people think that any qualified Pole will work french fries?Because he/she is a Pole?Get a life. Maybe because minimum wage in Poland is 1300zl?

resident grubas	Nov 21, 10, 21:44 #11
convex: Maybe because minimum wage in Poland is 1300zl? For an educated english speaking person?

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Nov 21, 10, 21:49 #12
resident grubas: For an educated english speaking person? minimum wage is minimum wage. plenty of people working in shops speak english and are on minimum wage.

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Nov 21, 10, 21:50 #13

greg and trudi:

If anyone can help or knows of somebody who is genuine I would be so grateful.

Greg, I'm willing to help you out - I can even screen potential candidates for you. But - in return - I ask for only one thing - that the employee is treated with the utmost respect. 7 pounds an hour plus accomodation is reasonable enough.

I assume the head carer is British?

If you want to talk about it - my e-mail is office@lindenia.net

resident grubas	Nov 21, 10, 21:51 #14
convex: plenty of people working in shops speak english and are on minimum wage. I am assuming they don'y have to bath an old women.Do they?

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Nov 21, 10, 22:48 #15
resident grubas: I am assuming they don'y have to bath an old women.Do they? Depends on if they're working in that profession. Home care here in Poland is a minimum wage job.

resident grubas	Nov 22, 10, 00:17 #16
convex: Depends on if they're working in that profession. Home care here in Poland is a minimum wage job. No it's not.But like I said it don't even matter what it is in POLAND.we are talking UK here.

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Edited by: Moderator Nov 22, 10, 00:17 #17

resident grubas:

Don't know what's romanina,but I am assuming she's Romanian.Now,does she have a work permit or are you hiring an ILLEGAL immigrant?

Self employed Romanians can work quite legally in the UK.

I'd like to see where the care jobs in Poland are paying 35zl an hour.

Incidentally, if she's self employed in the UK, she'll be left with about 90% of that wage after taxation. UK taxes are low at that level :)

resident grubas:

What does it have to do with working and LIVING in the UK?In Poland Polish people have friends and families they can turn to when in troubles.And they don't feel lonely like they would on some God forsaken island.If you want a Pole to work in the UK you got to pay him/her UK wage.Otherwise it's a DISCRIMINATION and I would be the first one to file a lawsuit.

Jesus, are you off your nut? Minimum wage in the UK is a shade below 6 pounds an hour. 7 pounds an hour is a normal "carer" wage. With accomodation included, it's more like 8-9 pounds an hour - which isn't bad at all.

resident grubas:

There you go.A bit of advice.Ask yourself what YOU would expect to be paid for this kind of job and pay that person FAIR money so both of you can be happy.Poles are not any worse than you damn foraigners and in many cases much better.

7 pounds an hour is "fair" money in the UK. It's about 15% above minimum wage.

Please, don't comment on UK issues unless you know about them.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Edited by: guesswho Nov 22, 10, 00:25 #18
resident grubas: What nationality has to do with their problem?T Read my 2nd sentence and you'll know what I meant.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Nov 22, 10, 00:26 #19
resident grubas: No it's not.But like I said it don't even matter what it is in POLAND.we are talking UK here. Yes it is. And we're talking about minimum wage jobs (unfortunately).

resident grubas

Nov 22, 10, 00:43 #20

delphiandomine:

7 pounds an hour is a normal "carer" wage.

God help them.

delphiandomine:

Please, don't comment on UK issues unless you know about them.

I can't promise you that pal,even though it is a truth I don't know much about UK since I have never really been there.

convex:

Yes it is. And we're talking about minimum wage jobs

So you are saying that wiping someone's azz is a minimum wage job?Hard to believe.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Nov 22, 10, 00:46 #21
resident grubas: God help them. Why? Is $12 a bad wage in the US? resident grubas: So you are saying that wiping someone's azz is a minimum wage job?Hard to believe. Yes. It's not exactly a highly skilled job.

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Edited by: guesswho Nov 22, 10, 00:49 #22

resident grubas:

What nationality has to do with their problem?

The nationality doesn't have anything to do with their problem but it has something to do with the value of what they pay in the country where the employee is coming from. For example $10.00 and hour means much more in Poland than in the US, especially if they offer free accommodation to go with it.

delphiandomine:

Is $12 a bad wage in the US?

it's not great but quite a few people work for it. The pay is different from state to state. In some states, $12.00 an hour suck and in some it's OK.

resident grubas	Nov 22, 10, 00:50 #23
greg and trudi: my mother is very demanding and can be aggresive your hour hours I can only hope that no Polish women will take this humiliating job.

resident grubas

Nov 22, 10, 00:57 #24

delphiandomine:

Why? Is $12 a bad wage in the US?

For this kind of job ,yes it is bad.

guesswho:

The nationality doesn't have anything to do with their problem but it has something to do with the value of what they pay in the country where the employee is coming from.

Is it really?I can assure you that NO American employer was even trying to pay me less than he would pay an American because I am from Poland.I wish they were and I could prove it in court.

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Nov 22, 10, 00:59 #25

resident grubas:

For this kind of job ,yes it is bad.

Still, with unemployment rising in the EU in general, a wage is a wage.

resident grubas:

Is it really?I can assure you that NO American employer was even trying to pay me less than he would pay an American because I am from Poland.I wish they were and I could prove it in court.

What are you babbling about? He isn't trying to pay someone less because they're Polish!

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Nov 22, 10, 01:03 #26
resident grubas: So you are saying that wiping someone's azz is a minimum wage job?Hard to believe. Yes, it is. And it's sad.

resident grubas	Nov 22, 10, 01:06 #27
delphiandomine: What are you babbling about? I am babbling about "Employement Non Discrimination Act".Guesswho should read it if she thinks you can pay employee less basing on his/her country of origin.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Nov 22, 10, 01:20 #28
resident grubas: Is it really?I can assure you that NO American employer was even trying to pay me less than he would pay an American because I am from Poland.I wish they were and I could prove it in court. well, because you were most likely officially employed and I assume that this goes under the table. What do you suggest, they should pay that girl to make it look fair?

resident grubas	Nov 22, 10, 01:28 #29
guesswho: well, because you were most likely officially employed and I assume that this goes under the table. What do you suggest, they should pay that girl to make it look fair? I don't know, he couldn't pay me enough to do that.And why would a Polish person ,perfectly authorized to work legally in UK work ilegally?Besides OP said that this self employment job.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Nov 22, 10, 01:32 #30
resident grubas: OP said that this self employment job. that's why I see it as an under the table job. I guess, he's trying to save on taxes.

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