british chef looking for work in Gdansk/sopot

craiga097Threads: 2 Posts: 7 Joined: Jan 26, 11 ♂	Jan 27, 11, 20:53 #1
Hello, I have over 12 years expereince in the hotel trade, I am moving to gdansk in the next 12-18 months, my career involves working in some of the best hotels around the uk, including michelin starred chefs. I dont speak polish, but as we all say I am learning. I am willing to work in a junior position until my polish improves. Thank you.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,478 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Jan 27, 11, 21:17 #2
Plenty of big well known (national chain Hotels) in Sopot along the sea front i would try there.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 27, 11, 21:22 #3
Wroclaw Boy: Plenty of big well known (national chain Hotels) in Sopot along the sea front i would try there. Sheraton is the biggest of the lot. Also worth trying might be the Radisson and the Hilton (both in Gdansk).

craiga097Threads: 2 Posts: 7 Joined: Jan 26, 11 ♂	Edited by: craiga097 Jan 28, 11, 20:36 #4
thanks guys, I have tried quite alot already but never get a response, but I will keep trying and if you do here of anything please do let me know. regards

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jan 28, 11, 21:56 #5
It seems Polish companies are a bit useless at replying to emails...you need to get in there and speak to them face to face....

enkiduThreads: 18 Posts: 983 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Jan 29, 11, 01:57 #6
British chef offering a traditional British cuisine? Hm... Ask here.

craiga097Threads: 2 Posts: 7 Joined: Jan 26, 11 ♂	Jan 29, 11, 12:43 #7
British cuisine, it depends on what the company would need from me, I am quite diverse. But on that subjet do you think there is a place for modern british/french cuisine in the polish market.

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 29, 11, 13:02 #8
enkidu: British chef offering a traditional British cuisine? You shouldn't judge British food on the basis of what you personally are served. There is a very good reason that the food you personally are served in restaurants always smells either slightly of p1ss or of sh1t.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Jan 29, 11, 18:49 #9
craiga097: But on that subjet do you think there is a place for modern british/french cuisine in the polish market. Almost certainly. The problem is the language barrier - but I know several successful restaurants here where the head chef isn't Polish, so it can't be that much of a problem.

enkiduThreads: 18 Posts: 983 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Jan 29, 11, 22:11 #10
delphiandomine: craiga097: But on that subjet do you think there is a place for modern british/french cuisine in the polish market. Almost certainly. The problem is the language barrier - but I know several successful restaurants here where the head chef isn't Polish, so it can't be that much of a problem. Yeah, right. :

craiga097Threads: 2 Posts: 7 Joined: Jan 26, 11 ♂	Jan 29, 11, 23:42 #11
whats the point of the photograph. It does not help me in anyway, yes it looks horrible and in no way does it represent british food. What point are you trying to prove? I have been trained by some of englands best chefs so dont try to belittle me by posting some crap you can get at a greasy spoon, if you dont want to help then just dont post anything. thanks

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,388 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Jan 30, 11, 00:24 #12
You are only interested in Gdansk?

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Jan 30, 11, 00:28 #13
I google imaged British food and these were the first 4 images that came up, honestly: I mean props to people like Gordon Ramsay or chefs that work for the Royal, but the rest.... bleh.

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Jan 30, 11, 02:03 #14

craiga097:

whats the point of the photograph. It does not help me in anyway, yes it looks horrible and in no way does it represent british food. What point are you trying to prove? I have been trained by some of englands best chefs so dont try to belittle me by posting some crap you can get at a greasy spoon, if you dont want to help then just dont post anything. thanks

Oh come on. You know, and I know what the "british cuisine" mean.
Backed beans. Deep fried everything. Chips. All of that submerged in the melted fat.
Really - the topic of the "british cuisine" is definitely better omitted in the civilised conversation.

Frankly, I thing that this kind of food would "catch up" in Poland. Especially in the Winter.
Of course - except british sausages. There is nothing you can do for this miserable mistake in Poland.

As for "greasy spoons". These venues represents average customer's expectations. There are thousands of it all over the UK and that is what represents a "british cuisine".

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Jan 30, 11, 02:15 #15

Sorry that all you guys ended up eating at crap places in the UK. I was treated to excellent dishes every time I was on the island...of course I tended to avoid the discount "cheap crap to stuff down your gullet" shops and stuck to a handful of nicer restaurants and eating at friends houses.

Kind of like coming to Poland and posting pictures of kebab and crappy pizza and claiming that's all that Poland has to offer...just because that's the crap that quite a few people eat day in and day out. I have to travel quite some distance to get decent Polish food...there are THREE kebab places on my block. Three! Two pizza places, and a Chinese place that is run by Vietnamese that tried to sell Vietnamese food, but apparently the pallet was more accustomed to salted up bland pseudo Chinese crap. So for gods sake, before talking smack about British food, please fix the terrible culinary nightmare that is Poland first.

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Jan 30, 11, 02:28 #16

convex:

Sorry that all you guys ended up eating at crap places in the UK. I was treated to excellent dishes every time I was on the island...of course I tended to avoid the discount "cheap crap to stuff down your gullet" shops and stuck to a handful of nicer restaurants and eating at friends houses.

Of course - one can get a decent meal in the classy restaurant in the UK.
For some reason these outlets enjoyed by the elite members usually offer French Italian or at least Indian or Thai cuisine. And for every good restaurant there is a 100 of "greasy spoons".

The national cuisine is defined by the average citizen's habits. For instance in Poland it would be cabbage prepared in a dozen of ways, potatoes, pork and sausages. In the UK (let me quote myself) it's:

Backed beans. Deep fried everything. Chips. All of that submerged in the melted fat.

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Jan 30, 11, 02:44 #17

enkidu:

The national cuisine is defined by the average citizen's habits. For instance in Poland it would be cabbage prepared in a dozen of ways, potatoes, pork and sausages. In the UK (let me quote myself) it's:

Might want to head back for a meal. Here it's gyros or crappy telepizza. There are at best a handful of decent restaurants here, which is pretty hardcore for a city of over 600,000 people. Now I'm sure there are plenty of reasons that Liverpool and Glasgow have a better selection of "basic" restaurants (burgers...made with fresh ground beef, hallelujah!), but hey, that's how it is. The average person eats crap here. In the cities, it's gyros alternated with whatever's clever, in the countryside it's pork, cabbage, and potatoes...both accented with bread, butter, and ham...and maybe one of those instant soups that sell so well over here. Food here comes across as something that gives you energy, not something to be enjoyed.

Sorry, both cuisines suck. I'm just a bit partial to beef and lamb with my starch as opposed to pork.

That said, thank god that some people are starting to pay attention to decent food over here. In the last two years, a couple of decent places have opened up. You can even buy decent ingredients here now! Here's hoping that trend will continue, and with it, open jobs for decent chefs.

Go to Gdansk, and give them some decent food. They surely deserve it.

enkiduThreads: 18 Posts: 983 Joined: Sep 23, 08 ♂	Jan 30, 11, 03:04 #18
OK. So what is the real "british cuisine" then?

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Jan 30, 11, 03:18 #19

enkidu:

OK. So what is the real "british cuisine" then?

Aside from your usual answer of roast and rack of lamb, Brits do game incredibly well, and most pubs in the countryside have it on the menu, great slabs of beef, even if they're pan fried. More cheeses than you can shake a stick at, great breads (the rolls are awesome)...talking about contemporary British, the fusion kitchens are great, and you can find one in just about ever small city.

craiga097Threads: 2 Posts: 7 Joined: Jan 26, 11 ♂	Jan 30, 11, 08:38 #20
http://atchinsonphotography.webeden.co.uk/#/food/4540548277 Have a look at the photos of my food, oh by the way I am also a photogrpaher! this is my style of british food and its a shame to reads the veiws of people misconception of the great british and polish food cultures. Yes there is crap out there, but you dont judge a whole nation by it.

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Jan 30, 11, 09:26 #21
craiga097: Have a look at the photos of my food Great now we can display it in an art museum.

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Jan 30, 11, 10:02 #22

George8600:

Great now we can display it in an art museum.

no pleasing some people first it looks like crap and when you see decent food you make a sacastic remark, what is the purpose of you being in this forum if you are just looking to contradict people, cant you just accept that there is great food being produced all over Europe. Also I joined this forum to meet like minded people if they are all like you im out of here.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jan 30, 11, 11:23 #23
Have a look around a Polish supermarket , and see what Polish people like to eat , you will realise why English food looks strange to them.... I have seen stuff in jars in Biedronka that looks like samples from an auto traffic autopsy... There is of course some great Polish food , but a whole lot of stuff i would not give my cat to eat...

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Jan 30, 11, 12:02 #24

enkidu:

So what is the real "british cuisine" then?

When i think British cuisine i instantly imagine crusty pies with various fillings, steak n kidney is a personal favourite, chicken n mushrooms, beef and guiness are also great. All served with chunky chips, roast potatoes or buttered mash.

Typical British cuisine comprises of beef, lamb, pork, chicken and fish and is usually accompanied with fresh vegetable and a potato dish.

The beef roast dinner with Yorkshire puddings and gravy is probably the most famous and loved of all British meals.

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,388 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Jan 30, 11, 12:18 #25
Wroclaw Boy: crusty pies with various fillings, steak n kidney is a personal favourite, chicken n mushrooms, beef and guiness are also great WB, it is only a question time before we see ' Hot Pies' being offered in PL, they have taken to quiche like a duck takes to water, so why not " The great British pie"

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Jan 30, 11, 12:19 #26

enkidu:

Backed beans.

And here we have the problem: you are so ignorant in general and you know so little about British food. What the fucck are "backed beans"?

enkidu:

the topic of the "british cuisine" is definitely better omitted in the civilised conversation.

Civilised conversation is not possible when creatures such are you try to take part.

I really do pity you. You clearly hate the country in which you live. I'd suggest that you move back to Poland but we don't need arseholes like you here: it's currently a very nice country and we'd like it to stay that way. Why don't you just kill yourself?

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Edited by: Stu Jan 30, 11, 12:23 #27

Craig, mate ... you've got my vote. Beautifully dressed plates, vibrant colours, I wish I could taste it and therefore I hope you will open up a place a soon as possible. Give us a notice, and me and my missus will come for sure.

As convex has said, there are only a few places with great food, who know how to dress a plate, let alone can give you advice on the wine matching the food. I mean a cabarnet sauvignon with a dish that has spinach and cheese in it ... give me a break ... ?!

Also a seriously, well-cooked piece of beef is few and far between, so forget about a nice Beef Wellington (I yearn for it, to be honest), or even steak and chips. Lamb is usually stewed. Pork(loin) and chicken is what is most served in restaurant, in huge portions as well. With (pickled) cabbage, beet root and all the rest.

Got a question though ... : what are the sausages on your "venison2" - are they venison sausages? And the purple things, are they red cabbage? Looks great, but if you prepare it for me, I'd like it a little bit more rose ;). Give me a nice Pinot Noir or a Crozes-Hermitage and this guy is in heaven.

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Jan 30, 11, 12:28 #28

enkidu:

And for every good restaurant there is a 100 of "greasy spoons".

the Polish equivalent to the greasy spoon would be a milk bar: basic cheap food.

enkidu:

All of that submerged in the melted fat.

not these days. most folk use oil, which is exactly the same when cooking in Poland.

so, instead of trying to put british food down... why don't u concentrate on the thread title and help the OP find work.

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,388 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Jan 30, 11, 12:43 #29
craiga097: British cuisine, it depends on what the company would need from me, I am quite diverse. But on that subjet do you think there is a place for modern british/french cuisine in the polish market. Yes there is, the real question is the size of the market in Gdansk. Warsaw or Krakow would have a bigger draw.

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Edited by: Harry Jan 30, 11, 12:53 #30

George8600:

I google imaged British food and these were the first 4 images that came up, honestly:

Interesting. Here is what the world's largest library of royalty-free stock images has for "traditional Polish food":

Also it appears to be a dog turd topped with a yellow blob and a tub of vomit, it in reality is the Polish delights: of a sausage made with the worst bits of a pig and designed to stay as tasty as it ever was for days on end; a cheese which is made of sheep's milk (cow's are too expensive) and then smoked; and a tub of pig fat made from the fatty or otherwise unusable parts of the pig. Interestingly, beef fat is eaten in parts of Yorkshire and referred to as a "mucky fat" sandwich.

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