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 Feb 15, 11, 21:13    #1
Hi,

I'm new to the forum but I'm looking for a bit of advice with regards to getting a job in Warsaw.

My connection to Poland started when a Pole joined my company in Scotland a few years ago and over the years we became very close friends. He has since moved back to Warsaw, however i've been over to Warsaw many times during the past few years, and with my girlfriend also being Polish living in Warsaw these visits have become more frequent recently. During this time i have met many new friends and experienced the culture. I absolutely love the city and the people and i want to move in the near future to be closer to my girlfriend and other friends.

My educational background is High School only - before moving into full time employment.

From a professional point of view i have 7 years experience working in the financial sector in Scotland. 6 years in Life and Pensions and 1 year working for a large global bank dealing with High Net Worth clients.

As far as teaching English goes; i helped my Polish friend and wife adapt to life in Scotland by helping them with the language and the culture. To this day i continue to give him support at his job when it comes to English speaking clients. I have also helped bring on my girlfriend's English through our conversations and teaching her new phrases. I have developed a patience i never knew i had and seeing someone develop in the language is something i really enjoy.

I see from this forum that i am not the only English speaker looking for a job in Poland! Is teaching English the only option available or are there other jobs available for English speakers?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Devo

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 Feb 15, 11, 21:49    #2
devopol:
My educational background is High School only


This and a lack of knowledge of the Polish language will make it almost impossible for you to find work, unless you can become self employed.
jonniThreads: 26
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 Feb 15, 11, 21:55    #3
I've known people (well, one person) teaching English there with no post 15 education. A mistake, since he was a pretty dreadful teacher.

As the poster above said, there isn't much possibility. Poland is a country where qualified doctors are working as sales reps and where secretaries have an MA.

You might try the Easyjet call centre, though that isn't in Warsaw. Or try and get some private lessons and network like hell among the British community. Or open a business.
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 Feb 15, 11, 23:30    #4
devopol:
My educational background is High School only - before moving into full time employment.


This could be a problem - Polish society unfortunately places far too much emphasis on education irrespective of one's own achievements in the workplace. It's also partially because the country churns out vast amounts of graduates.

devopol:
From a professional point of view i have 7 years experience working in the financial sector in Scotland. 6 years in Life and Pensions and 1 year working for a large global bank dealing with High Net Worth clients.


This might just be enough to get your foot in the door in Warsaw. You'll certainly have to network like hell, you'll have to be persistent - but there's just a chance that your experience in dealing with such clients will prove valuable to someone.

devopol:
I see from this forum that i am not the only English speaker looking for a job in Poland! Is teaching English the only option available or are there other jobs available for English speakers?


Teaching English is by no means the only option. There's call centre work available (most call centres are absolutely screaming for native speakers), and if you go to Warsaw, you might find that you can get some work doing something else. To give an idea - a friend of mine is a German teacher, but was offered full time employment in a German company through a client. Or of course, you could try to get relocated by the bank if they have any sort of presence in Warsaw.

In general though, it's best to assume that there's nothing here except teaching. The problem with teaching is that any job that offers any sort of decent conditions will be looking for people with degrees and some sort of teaching certificate. Of course, if you have the money to invest to begin with - then you could easily set up your own business to teach clients in very specific industry sectors. For instance - I'm focusing more and more on telecommunication clients at the minute.

jonni:
Or try and get some private lessons and network like hell among the British community.


That would be my advice too - it'll take a lot of effort, but could pay off with the previous experience in insurance. Depends on what the experience is, I guess.
dcchrisThreads: 11
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 Feb 15, 11, 23:40    #5
The problem without having a university education is that normally you teach highly educated students and you could be lacking in knowledge in some fields perhaps. On the other hand many people are well educated through their own studies. All schools I have been involved with are looking for a university degree as a minimum but that isn't saying that some school won't hire you. As far as ability to teach, having a degree will not necessarily make you a good teacher and vice versa. Why not get one of those online university degrees or take classes on the weekend? Unfortunately most university classes are just seeing how many hoops you will jump through without blowing a gasket though. But just a suggestion.
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 Feb 15, 11, 23:52    #6
delphiandomine:
Teaching English is by no means the only option. There's call centre work available (most call centres are absolutely screaming for native speakers)



Were are these call centres then? Ive been looking and somehow have missed any job advertisements for any in Warsaw?

Any ideas please :-)
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 Feb 16, 11, 00:08    #7
livinginwarsaw:
Were are these call centres then? Ive been looking and somehow have missed any job advertisements for any in Warsaw?

Any ideas please :-)

Poznań
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 Feb 16, 11, 09:27    #8
jonni:
Poznań



Oh thanks fot the Info and that will explain why ive never seen any positions in warsaw then ;-)
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 Feb 16, 11, 20:56    #9
Thanks a lot for the feedback guys.

delphiandomine:
This might just be enough to get your foot in the door in Warsaw. You'll certainly have to network like hell, you'll have to be persistent - but there's just a chance that your experience in dealing with such clients will prove valuable to someone.


I have noticed that there is a large financial and insurance market in Warsaw. Would it be a cause of networking to try and find someone with a position speaking mainly English for the time being within the financial sector?

delphiandomine:
a friend of mine is a German teacher, but was offered full time employment in a German company through a client. Or of course, you could try to get relocated by the bank if they have any sort of presence in Warsaw.


Would this be a case of trying to find UK and Ireland companies with locations in Warsaw to join? Unfortunately the bank i work for doesn't have a presence in Warsaw at the moment. The main Euro hub is in Geneva.

Thanks again for the advice
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 Feb 16, 11, 21:04    #10
devopol:
I have noticed that there is a large financial and insurance market in Warsaw. Would it be a cause of networking to try and find someone with a position speaking mainly English for the time being within the financial sector


Yup, as well as being incredibly persistent with recruitment agencies and also trying to make contacts with people within HR at the banks. There will be something out there for you, but you'll have to dig deep to find it. I suspect with the lack of a degree, you'll be relying on trying to find someone with the magic "contact".

devopol:
Would this be a case of trying to find UK and Ireland companies with locations in Warsaw to join? Unfortunately the bank i work for doesn't have a presence in Warsaw at the moment. The main Euro hub is in Geneva.


Yep, as well as American companies. It's definitely not going to be easy - but not impossible.
HENKEMC  Mar 18, 11, 19:13    #11
Lots of comments that there is no jobs without Polish language skills (yet) ? Quite wrong, sorry to oppose.

I am an employer, very intl. company (UK), and I know there is jobs - for the right people with right mind, smart, creative, strong drive, hard working, committed.

mail to christian.henkemeier@ihg.com
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 Mar 18, 11, 19:16    #12
HENKEMC:
ihg.com

At the Intercontinental?
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 Mar 19, 11, 12:50    #13
HENKEMC:
I am an employer, very intl. company (UK), and I know there is jobs - for the right people with right mind, smart, creative, strong drive, hard working, committed.


Yes, of course. But anyone with such qualities will find work anywhere in the world regardless of language.

Those people are pretty rare though.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  Apr 3, 12, 13:50    #14
I am looking for English - Ex pats to work in Warsaw Poland for a client of ours in a customer service / sales support role.

I would welcome your CV - ian - capstonerecruitment.com - 02920 453 444

Regards

Ian



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