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Polish Citizenship for a foreigner whose parents was born in Poland


inka622 4 | 26
17 Oct 2010 #91
So I should have sent my sons birth certificate to the polish embassy?
Wroclaw 44 | 5,379
17 Oct 2010 #92
not the original copy. an authorized copy and probably with a certified translation.

u would have to let the Polish side know that u have a Polish child, yes.

you'll probably find info at the Polish Embassy website.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
17 Oct 2010 #93
So I should have sent my sons birth certificate to the polish embassy?

If I were you I would ring the Poland embassy in Ireland tel. (+353-1) 283 08 55

I was told that the people who make the birth certificate send a copy to the appropriate embassy but just to make sure you should call them.
inka622 4 | 26
17 Oct 2010 #94
So they might already have a copy of his birth cert? Thats very interesting. I will certainly call tomorrow and find out. Thank you so much for that information. Very helpful.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
17 Oct 2010 #95
Yes, I have a friend here in Poland, who recently had a child and he was told they sent a copy to the Irish embassy (he's Irish, the mother Polish).

But with such things it is always better to ask the embassy themselves.

Let us know how you get on, as it could help other people in the future.

Best of luck!
inka622 4 | 26
17 Oct 2010 #96
I will certainly let you know. thanks again.
gjene 14 | 204
19 Oct 2010 #97
Kath

Check the website known as 'Poland for All'. Then click on forums and scroll down to find 'Poland'. In that forum you will then find a 3 parter in regards to Polish citizenship. There, you will find others who are in the same boat as you. There you will find some who are older than you that have been able to prove citizenship based on one or the other parent. Or in some cases both.

As one known as 'Know Poland' to refer you to his posting in part 1 about the documents you will (or may) need to document your connection to Poland and then obtain citizenship. In a similar related issue, I was able to prove German citizenship less than 5 yrs ago, long after the 21st birthday issue. Since obtaining the German citizenship is almost similar, but less complicated than the Polish.

Good luck.
Olaf 6 | 955
19 Oct 2010 #98
General rule: if at least one of your parents has had from the time where you were born Polish citizenship and did not resign from it officially - then you can verify your citizenship by a procedure in a consulate or any Urzad Wojewodzki. Takes about a month.
Tpolish01
20 Oct 2010 #99
Merged thread:
Parents/grandparents born in Poland, but I was born in the US. Polish citizenship?

I have wanted to get Polish citizenship since i was little but never got around to it. Both my parents/grandparents were born in Poland but i was born in the U.S. My dream is to move to poland for a year or so and try and get a job there. It's something i will regret not doing before i get too old.

I've been trying to figure out how to get a Polish citizenship and passport and it seems way too confusing. Is there a simple procedure to do it? Doesn't matter if it takes a long time, but i just want to know the exact steps to get it.

Here is my situation. Born in U.S and parents are both from Poland. My mom has her proof of birth in Poland, but my dad does not. how do i get my Pesel number without having my dad's information? I also have my birth certificate translated into polish and my family has a home in Krakow that i can register too.

Can someone help me get started and let me know what i have to do next?

Thanks!!!

-Tomek

tpolish@excite.com
kastanedowski 1 | 13
21 Oct 2010 #100
Listen, you are Polish since your mother is

Check the website of the polish Embassy and you will find the documents for "confirming your nationality", since you are polish and you will only need to make a new id and passport,is that simple.

The most important paper you will have to present is the original birth certificate of your mom and her parents, the rest are yours...

Give the papers to Migration in Warsaw and you may have an answer in 7 weeks, in 2 more you can add your new polish birth certificate and in 2 more your new passport.

If you do it trough the Embassy they will charge you and won't help you since they are not Migration,just a delivery company... that moreover wait each 4 months to send documents so the best reaction time is 8 months...

Do it yourself, is easy, all of us we have done it and is a piece of cake

I have contacts in Warsaw that give consultancy about it, if you want you can write

kastanedowski gmail com
Aussiepole 1 | 5
22 Oct 2010 #101
Yes you can!

I got my Polish Passport based on my mother being born in Poland and i was born in Australia.

You just need all the required documents they ask you for.

It will take time and word of warning - all the documentation and application forms have to be translated into Polish and written in Polish. Get yourself a good translator!!!!

Good luck
kaznoad - | 30
2 Nov 2010 #102
It may come as a shock but you already have Polish nationality. Any child of a Polish citizen automatically has Polish nationality whether he/she applies for it or not. That is the way Polish law works. However, in order to obtain a Polish passport you will need to supply proof that at least one of your parents was Polish e.g. birth certificate, passport etc. Provided you can do this then obtaining a passport is just a formality. A word of caution though before you leap into action. The Polish authorities apply their nationality law in a strange way. According to the law when a Polish national is present in the territory of the Polish Republic no other nationality held by that person has any legal bearing. In other words according to Polish law once you step foot in Poland (and have Polish nationality), whatever other nationality/ies you have ceases to have any legal meaning or weight. You are treated exclusively as a Pole regardless of where you were born, whether you can speak Polish, or whether you have ever either considered yourself to be Polish.

I can vouch for the above information as I obtained a Polish passport 20 years ago on the basis of the fact that my father was Polish. The process did not take long and it was useful to me then as at that time I needed to obtain a visa to visit Poland. 10 years later I renounced my Polish nationality due to the selective application of the above interpretation regarding my nationality of birth. In my experience in the longer term the obtaining of a Polish passport caused me far more problems than it was worth.
PolishNate - | 2
1 Dec 2010 #103
I am an American citizen, born in America, but my mother is still a Polish citizen and my father is an american citizen

I've been looking through this Forum and it seems that you would be the person who would probably be able to help me the most. I live near LA and I have to go to the Polish consulate, I know. However since I can't take a day off from work at the moment, I was hoping you might be able to help me.

I wanted to know, what type of proof they ask for when you have to prove ancestral relative link to someone of full Polish decent? My grandmother's mother was born here however her parents weren't. So it would have been my great great grandmother that was born in Poland. Do I have to gain access to her birth certificate and then my great grandmother's and then my grandmother's and then my mothers?

I know you said this endeavor would be very expensive, where do most of the costs come from? Can you help me with any pointers?

Thank you!
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
1 Dec 2010 #104
So it would have been my great great grandmother that was born in Poland. Do I have to gain access to her birth certificate and then my great grandmother's and then my grandmother's and then my mothers?

You're not eligible - your great great grandmother wouldn't have been a Polish citizen, because Poland wouldn't have existed at the time of her birth. Ancestry doesn't count alone. For what it's worth, even if there is entitlement, your grandmother has to claim her Polish citizenship before you can attempt to do so.

But I think it's almost certain that your great-great-grandmother would have been stripped of any citizenship at some point.

If you want, I can point you towards a Polish lawyer who speaks fluent English who can deal with such cases, but be warned - it's not going to be a cheap process.
Softsong 5 | 494
1 Dec 2010 #105
Yes, Delph is correct, your ancestor probably was not a citizen of Poland, and cannot pass citizenship along. That is the case with my Polish ancestors.

But, my German ancestors did have Polish citizenship, so I've thought about doing this, as well.
Maybe a lawyer can see a way though.

If I remember correctly, you have to have one grandparent who is Polish, or two great grand parents for it to work out. Good luck.
trevorisimo 1 | 27
8 Jan 2011 #106
Im Irish, Wife is Polish so our son is half polish-irish, but born in Ireland.
sylwiasta - | 5
17 Jan 2011 #107
Merged: POLISH CITIZENSHIP FOR KIDS BORN IN USA - Girls father is an American, mother Polish

Hello, My friend is going to visit Poland this year with her 2 girls (4 & 8 years old). Her Husband would like the girls to come back with Polish citizenship. Would you know by any chance what kind of paperwork does she need to take with her. Is it a hassle? Does it take a long time? Girls father is an American, mother Polish.

She called me today asking for help but I have no clue, I know how to register forreign marriage and change the last name , thats it :)

Any help will be appreciated
Olaf 6 | 955
17 Jan 2011 #108
Hi,
This question actually was answered before. In this case it can be simple: if at least one of the parents was Polish citizen at the time when the children were born (i.e. didn't loose or resign from the citizenship etc.) then the children already are Polish citizens according to Polish law. You don't apply for it, they already have it. But to get some confirmation and then for example apply for passports, then there has to be a verification procedure done. This can take something between 3 weeks to about 2 months on average (depending on the number of places that the children were living, number of gov't offices to contact etc.). And there is no need to come to Poland for this, you can do it via your local Polish consulate. The procedure is simple and you just provide birth certificate (sworn-translated if not Polish) and some documents of the parents, passport confirming Polish nationality too.
Harry
17 Jan 2011 #109
Is it a hassle? Does it take a long time?

Not a hassle but does take time. I would not recommend trying to do it in Poland: just do it all via mail with your local Polish consulate.
teresa55 - | 46
14 Mar 2011 #110
Yes. You can.
It can take some time.
I'll gladly halp you.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
14 Mar 2011 #111
Yes. You can.

How can you judge this if you aren't aware of the mother's circumstances?
teresa55 - | 46
14 Mar 2011 #112
I'm based in Poland and I've been assisting people in certifying Polish
citizenship in cases for many years.
jcholewa
8 May 2011 #113
I have a question about polish citizenship. My dad's grandparents (my great-grandparents) immigrated from Poland. I was wondering if I am still qualified for Polish citizenship if I was adopted at birth by my Polish father? I don't have Polish blood but my birth certificate has my Polish father's name on it and I legally have always had a Polish surname.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
8 May 2011 #114
I have a question about polish citizenship.

Does your father have Polish citizenship?
jcholewa
8 May 2011 #115
He doesn't know and neither do I. I was reading earlier posts about it not mattering if he was born in the US or not that because he has Polish blood he automatically has polish citizenship?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
8 May 2011 #116
Not true. Polish blood doesn't mean a damn thing - what matters is the actual citizenship.

However, if the great-grandparents left Poland before 1962 and gained a foreign citizenship before 1962 - then they were stripped of Polish citizenship. As in Polish law (consistently since 1918) - citizenship is passed from the parents (or just the father, depending on circumstances) - there needs to be a clear trail of citizenship from the great-grandparents to you.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's exceptionally unlikely that your father has Polish citizenship - and with it, you.

If you can confirm when your great-grandparents moved from Poland and when (and where) your grandparents were born, I'll tell you for certain as to what the situation is.
jcholewa
8 May 2011 #117
Okay thanks :) .... and maybe you should delete some of the previous posts if they are giving false info! :P
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
8 May 2011 #118
Nothing to do with me, I'm afraid.

Generally speaking however, Polish blood only matters if the parent(s) are actually citizens. Like most countries in the world, Poland practices jus sanguinis rather than jus soli.
lawyer
15 May 2011 #119
I am a lawyer based in Poland. I can help you to get a Polish passport and Polish citizenship.
ratownik - | 1
30 Jun 2011 #120
It took about 30 minutes of our time and then about a week to wait for the passport to arrive. Much quicker than in the US.


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