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Tamara
  Jul 3, 08, 11:52  #31

I just checked and it is available from Netflix as well!

 
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peter_olsztyn
  Jul 3, 08, 17:55  #32

gosica:
Norwegians' answer to the question 'Do you speak English?' is: 'A bit.', but when you start talking to them, you're amazed how fluent they are (no matter their age!).


So I must have Norwegian origins ;) I'm living in UK at the moment and after first shock I think that my English is very bad. Want to feel safe, my answer is always "a bit". I just produce proper sounds but I still have problem with fully understanding adult speakers. Kids speak louder and clearly whole words. Adults only beginning of the words. I suppose people expect that I can understand their in the same level as my speaking ability :/

 
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Theroen
  Jul 4, 08, 07:59  #33

Theroen:
My english is being very good

Oh come on guys, can't I joke a little? I don't think I would be able to understand any of the discussions here if my command of the language was as bad as it is in the above sentence.

 
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Wulkan
  Jul 4, 08, 15:31  #34

gosica:
The answer to the question about the knowledge of English may tell you a lot about differnet nations. Norwegians' answer to the question 'Do you speak English?' is: 'A bit.', but when you start talking to them, you're amazed how fluent they are (no matter their age!). An average Pole says, often with great pride or slightly hurt, 'I do!', but in fact... they don't.


thats really funny cause I always say a bit when asked do you speak english and they are always amazed how fluent I am and Im Polish not Norwegian...

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 4, 08, 17:33  #35

The classic was 'my english is being very well'.

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry

 
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isthatu2
  Jul 4, 08, 17:37  #36

Didnt it just remind you of the corner shops back home S'?

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 4, 08, 17:47  #37

When did u last make a sex isthatu2? LOL

 
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GodandBrown
  Jul 7, 08, 13:04  #38

Hey Seanus, you mentioned that you worked in Poland as a teacher, true? What do you really think about the Polish level of English?

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 7, 08, 13:52  #39

True. They are not on a par with some European neighbours but they are going from strength to strength. Motivation is high.

 
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GodandBrown
  Jul 7, 08, 14:00  #40

Have you ever taught in other countries?

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 7, 08, 14:03  #41

Strictly speaking, Scotland for 1 month for my CELTA. Other than Poland, Japan for 2 years.

 
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LondonChick
  Jul 7, 08, 14:07  #42

Seanus:
Japan for 2 years.



JET scheme?

A few years ago, I tought English in a Gymnasium (High school) in Germany during the day - and at Nachhilfe in the evenings. Nachhilfe is where the parents of the kids who messed around in class during the got sent by their patents who were worried that they wouldn't pass the year.

 
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GodandBrown
  Jul 7, 08, 14:08  #43

Okay, I have been to Poland, it was 2002, I was teaching English and German, I was really surprised about the motivation...I have never experienced such a movement... In Germany it can be a torture to teach English

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 7, 08, 14:11  #44

No, my friends taught the JET program. I taught at the dreaded NOVA but they were always OK 2 me. They have since gone bankrupt (Oct last year).

 
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LondonChick
  Jul 7, 08, 14:12  #45

GodandBrown:
In Germany it can be a torture to teach English



There is no discipline in German schools, and teachers don't have any authority to do anything about it. I had kids eating / doing other homework assignments / playing gameboy etc. in class.

One time, I sent a student out of my class and got a bollocking from the headmistress, as he "might have got injured crossing the road". He was 16 FFS!!

 
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GodandBrown
  Jul 7, 08, 14:18  #46

You're right. Teaching in Germany is the worst you can do.

 
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miranda
  Jul 7, 08, 14:23  #47

GodandBrown:
..I have never experienced such a movement...

that is true about Polish students. I never had any problems, well some, but that was in a semi-private school, so the parents were paying and that seem to effect the motivation. Too bad.

 
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VaFunkoolo ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 7, 08, 14:24  #48

High end ESP can be rewarding in Germany, both financially and in students' willingness to absorb what they are being taught

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LondonChick
  Jul 7, 08, 14:31  #49

VaFunkoolo:
ESP



What is ESP?

 
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Zgubiony
  Jul 7, 08, 14:32  #50

Especially?

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
Edited by: Seanus  Jul 7, 08, 14:32  #51

Extra Sensory Perception, LOL

English for Special Purposes

 
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GodandBrown
  Jul 7, 08, 14:33  #52

Selfish, spoilt people are there...Polish pupils and adults are hungry...used to have boring lessons at school...

 
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LondonChick
  Jul 7, 08, 14:33  #53

Zgubiony:
Especially?



Ah, right... I was thinking English Second.... erm... eh.... Parler... Prater... Parlaro :)

 
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VaFunkoolo ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 7, 08, 14:35  #54

Extra Special People

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LondonChick
Edited by: LondonChick  Jul 7, 08, 14:37  #55

Seanus:
English for Special Purposes



Aha - thanks :)

GodandBrown:
used to have boring lessons at school...



In one of my classes, I had the students standing on their desks singing Elvis songs.

Got a bollocking from the headmistress for that too <sigh>

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 7, 08, 14:41  #56

She was all shook up, LOL

I'd like to teach English for Academic Purposes (EAP). That'd present a positive challenge. I find standard teaching to be a bit limiting. Confined to a textbook with minimal discretion.

 
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LondonChick
  Jul 7, 08, 14:48  #57

Seanus:


She was all shook up, LOL



In The Ghetto actually.... I was trying to introduce a theme along the lines of "hardship in the inner cities" or something like that. All a long, long time ago.

I also wanted to take the older students to an Irish Pub, but the other teachers poured cold water on that idea :(

Seanus:
I'd like to teach English for Academic Purposes (EAP). That'd present a positive challenge.


In what way is this taught differently to standard teaching?

 
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Seanus ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 7, 08, 15:01  #58

U have to be much more precise in ur delivery. U have to cater for a more specialised audience who have specific intentions in mind, not just to learn any old iron.

I wanted to read up on it more but there don't appear to be many opportunities presenting themselves.

 
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GodandBrown
  Jul 8, 08, 02:36  #59

I was relatively independent when teaching in Poland. I taught adults more often...We talked about democracy in Nigeria, read English article about money systems all over the world...and then...finally I taught them some grammar stuff, not too much. It was great, but in the last weeks of the summer term ...my boss went in, checked my lessons...she told me to teach them with the coursebook (it was not only a language centre, it was also a bookshop!). They were really tricky there. They changed the coursebooks every year and made the students believe in progress...Enterprise 1, Click on 1 etc., so I stopped this way of teaching and they were really happy for a time.

 
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kioko
Edited by: kioko  Jul 8, 08, 05:20  #60

My English isn't perfect, it is actually far from good. But as long as people understand me, I'm fine with it. And I really like speaking English. It has started when my teacher in school was changed and we were learning less grammar but we had more conversations. After that my teachers were always native speakers and I loved it. Now I am not scared of speaking English, even if I make mistakes. But I know lot of people who were taught that if they don't speak grammaticly correct they should not speak at all. In my opinion Polish teachers care only about grammar. So, GodandBrown, I know I should like your lessons :) Keep it that way! :)
Oh, and I think Callan Methon gave me a lot, I mean the grammar part.

 
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