Polish people and racism.

Because you are a man, Harry. Man doesn't have problem here.

On the other side, woman.... Just type "Reflect your respect" at google and see by yourself. (And i am not even talking about more conservative middle east countries like Saudi, Iran or Kuwait).


What she said is NOT a racist statement.

She just said her position about some behaviours. This is NOT racism. If i say that i don't like curry this is NOT racism against Indians.


Very Well said girl, very well said!

How dare someone go to Poland and say that poles cannot eat pork pierogi and drink vodka, two of the best things from Poland?

Harry, you never really gave me any logical counter arguments nor did you answered my questions. Yeah, "belittling" my opinions is better word than "denying". Seems like I didn't understand the meaning of this word in English. When I say that I am anti-islam instead of calling me racist, you should give me arguments that Islam isn't that bad. Well, I was taught at school that "race" is a biological trait. Polish is nation, not a race for me. Yes, I believe that foreigners don't have a right to enforce on Polish people acceptance of (for example) multiculturalism or their limitless tolerance, especially when we observe the results of it in the West. I was referring to your native country. Warsaw is a capital city. Bad example because it is destined for tourists. The fact that we build religious buildings doesn't mean that we support multiculturalism. It is tolerance. Limited. Moreover, there is a lot of native Poles who are Muslims (like Tatars) or Protestant too. Ah, you know what? When you say that I should moderate my opinions, you exactly show how you belittle them. You think that other people's opinions which are incompatible with yours are rubbish? It shows only who you are. There is no such thing as rubbish views. I don't agree with you but I also don't think that your opinions are rubbish. Everyone can think what they want. Someone gets insulted? Freedom of speech! This argument with you is pointless, seriously. Thankfully, 2/3 of Polish nation supports my opinions about Islam.


Levi_BR, exactly! When I was in Egypt and Turkey as a woman, I felt threatened and I was sexually harassed. Not one time. Thank God that my father was with me. And I wasn't dressed like prostitute. I was 13 year-old girl. The funniest thing? I had the same problem with Muslim men in London.


This happened when my friend and I were on Regent Street near Tesco. Fortunately, there were Russian men who helped us. I don't care if you believe. It is a fact that non-Muslim women are targeted by Muslims. Look at Sweden. One of the safest countries in the world in the past. Right now this is the most dangerous place for women in Europe. Hmm... recent Rotherham rape crisis? Want more? Well, I am glad that Polish men will never allow it to happen in Poland.

Gee Harry, it seems those were my same exact words when I first started posting here. LOL
You go girl !


Right on Haylel, how many times I have pointed out when Muslims post on here about, "I am looking for a Polish wife", that their full intentions are to breed them to convert them and the children to Islam. The MULTIPLY the world with Islam goal.

I was called a racist by the "Brit Boys Club" and then the thread was closed or deleted when I responded.
A 'race' is people with related ancestry which would make a 'racist' some one that hates that ancestry.
Islam is not a race, it is a religion so how can I be racist because I think Islam is a twisted warped religion because it's

Koran states that all infidel's should be killed in the name of Allah ?

johnny_reb, in Poland we would say "dobrze prawi - polać mu!" which means "he says the right thing - give him vodka!" :) I completely agree with you. If your posts get delated, it means that this site is unreliable. So far my posts haven't got delated, hopefully they will keep it this way.

Merged: Polish people = Racists?

I haven't been to Poland yet but many people post over here saying that they aren't friendly at all and can be quite racists. Is it actually true?

The only people Poles dislike are the so called Polish Americans who believe that their dollar grants them more liberties than the locals have. They don't necessarily hate them but laugh at them and are quite happy to take all their dollars off them before they actually know what happened. Other than that, they hate people who will tell them that Russia is the best thing that could ever happen to Poland.

If you are not either of the two, you will be fine in Poland. Poles are a very friendly and welcoming bunch of people.

Not surprised to hear that opinion come from an anti - America German non Pole.
Please let me quote you what my native Polish Pen Pal sent me in an e-mail not long ago.


So I guess that blows the Germans opinion out of the water that the only people Poles dislike are the so called Polish Americans doesn't it. :-)

Well johnny, that is the difference between you and me. I live in Poland and talk about what I experience myself here in Poland. You just keep commenting on what you may have heard somewhere from someone.


Far from it because you wouldn't know what is going on here in Poland johnny. Your opinion is as valuable as the piece of paper I wipe my ass with, simply because you have never been here and would never be able to contribute a real opinion.

And as usual when someone disagrees the belittling insults start and off - topic the little Germ troll goes.
(Let us know if you got another warning for that.)(You need a vacation with Harry)
No, not my opinion jolly, that was copied straight from a native Pole's e-mail to me as I already explained.
A native Poles opinion, not a Germ transplant to Poland opinion.
The Polish hate the control that the Germs hold over them so being racist is justifiable in such a case.

Well i'm glad to know that :)

No, Polish people are generally not racist, have you been racially abused before?

But they love the money they get from the EU, don't they... :)


There is no justification for racism whatsoever.

@Mike00: Poland is still undeveloped as a society in terms of accepting diverse people, but I think it's on the right way and the new educated generations are less narrow-minded and bigot.

If you're in one of the first 4-5 cities in PL and u study at the uni or you're in a skilled job I think you'll meet just good people interested in you ;) poles in general are not so sociable like e.g. mediterraneans, that's the way we are, but one time you get into them you'll see that we're very kind.

True that Poland has been criticized for racism by the EU council (euractiv.com/sections/elections/council-europe-criticises-racism-hungary-poland-315222) and that various bad facts happened (theredandblackstork.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/my-experience-of-racism-in-wroclaw/), but I guess if you can stay away from hooligans and dresiarze you'll be fine ;)

Is diversity necessarily a virtue and asset? It can be (enrivching indigenous society, etc.) but it can also be a libaility. Those countries where legal or illegal immigrants and refugees have arrived in large numbers often face a variety of problems. The Islamic factor is especially challenging because many of those people are not content to improve their living standards but want to impose their beliefs on others "or else".

There always was pluralism in the larger cities - the post WW2 homogeneity was just a blip. We shouldn't forget though that Poland has a large rural element - more marked than in a lot of other European countries and this does make a difference - rural society is often less open to diversity.

And they should be because that is what they want and I don't blame them.



I disagree as Pol3 gave in his example of Muslim immigrants not content to improve themselves.
They leave the hell hole they came from for a better life and then want to instill their culture in their new home country.
The same thing has happened in America with the illegals and legals that come here and demand that the schools teach
their children in the Spanish language, have government welfare papers written in Spanish and when you call a government agency the recording you get says push #1 for English. (Why not have it say, "Push #1 for Spanish ?)

Poland has seen the effects of immigration in other countries and want no part of it. Smart !
Poland has every right to be racists in some instances like immigration for an example.


Exactly, the Polish people have seen what has happened to other countries making Poles JUSTIFIABLEY racists because they want to keep Poland Polish and not have a Warsawistan.

Nothing wrong with that at all.

Guess we have to talk about the definition of racism then. I for one wouldn't consider sending 250,000+ illegal economic refugees from the Middle East, Africa and Asia back to where they came from or preventing them from reaching European shores in the first place racist, but telling a muslim asylum seeker that he is a dune coon certainly is.

@jon357: I agree, 100%.

But kinda I think that a huge change about that in polish society happened after '89, like the rise of conservative catholicism and right winged ultranationalists like Ruch Nardowy and similar

Agreed. A time of great instability and changes like that take a long time to settle down. Plus fear feeds fear and a lot of people instinctively hate change.

Don't all people (except masochists) hate change for the worse? The point is it requires uncanny, nearly prophetic foresight to know how which change will turn out. When it becomes a fait accompli, it is usually irreversible.

Nope. Some people instinctively hate any change, even if it benefits them. They fear it.

Racism is part of that.

Ruch Narodowy is a fine party

For anyone interested in who these people are:


They aren't in any sense typical of Poland - they are just as much on the margins of society in Poland as they are anywhere else. It would be a great shame if anyone were put off coming to Poland because they think these cretins have any sort of influence - most of them are just thugs and they are a tiny number of people. In effect hobbyists of hate.


dreamdeferred.org.uk/2014/11/thousands-of-polands-fascists-hijack-independence-day/

Nope, actually dreamdeferred makes "Gazeta wybiórcza" a good newspaper so this description is completely invalid.


National Movement (Polish: Ruch Narodowy), abbreviated to RN, is a political party, first formed as an electoral alliance of right-wing and far-right nationalist political movements in Poland, which have signed an ideological agreement, including nationalists from National Radical Camp and the All-Polish Youth, and conservative-liberal Real Politics Union, the only political party taking part in the agreement. The party was formed after the Polish Independence March in 2012.

Well, it's a respected mainstream newspaper, even if you don't like it.

And thanks for the unattributed quote from Wikipedia which backs up that your 'ruch narodowy' are new-fascists.

As I say, not typical of the way people are in Poland and anyone worried about racism should ignore these clowns as everyone else does.

Yep, dreamdeferred is more like a blog of them two

"Articles on this site represent our own views"

We hope you enjoy the site.

Martin Smith and Tash Shifrin

Yes it is very one sided jon I agree with you. The problem is that when dealing with them we are not aloud three speech to say we don't like black people and people call us scum. I'm sorry to offend you but if I don't like black people because they were our servants for thousands of years until very recently like 49 years ago I have to pretend I like them for political correctness.

It doesn't pretend to be anything else, Wulkan. If you'd like some more links about the neo-fascism of 'ruch narodowy' (they don't even deny it themselves) I'll be happy to oblige. Also some pictures of their supporters standing round in silly uniforms making fascist salutes.

And the sad thing is that despite Poland's centuries' old liberal tradition and the pluralism in the bigger cities, these clowns with thei flags and shouting get picked up by the media, giving a very bad impression of racism to outsiders.

@polishcleaner, hello, Levi. Odd that a troll from Brazil would say stuff like that. I suppose racists have no depths to which they will not sink.

Just because their supporters are fascists doesn't mean RN is too

I'm sorry to hear that you are brainwashed by blogs like dreamdeferred, if they wrote that your own mother is racist you'd believe that too, sad :/

It's a (very minor) political party. They are their members.