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nowik15 [Guest]
  Dec 21, 06, 05:56  #1

Im looking for a job as a bus driver. nowik15@o2.pl

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Wroclaw
  Dec 21, 06, 09:28  #2

If you mean in the UK.

There is at least one company that trains bus drivers in Poland and then helps them with the move to the UK.

Sorry I can't help with more.


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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
Edited by: Stupidwelsh  Dec 21, 06, 09:39  #3

Stage Coach [In Cheltenham UK] employ Polish drivers and the town has a considerable Polish community- although wages aren’t great when you factor in accommodation costs and income tax and there is the usual anti- Polish sentiment from the locals.

Still it’s worth the cost of a flight ticket, you get paid and you get free training to match UK PSV rules and then you can get a job anywhere in the UK as a bus driver at around 8 sterling per hour- if you ’go careful’ and work hard you could save about 40 sterling a day but better to think 20- and that can easily be sent home if you need to support your dependants.


stagecoachbus.com/cheltenham

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englishman [Guest]
  Dec 27, 06, 23:45  #4

Stay at home, dont want any more polish running people over coz they cant read the signs!!

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Patrycja19
  Dec 28, 06, 00:18  #5

Quoting: englishman, Post #4
Stay at home, dont want any more polish running people over coz they cant read the signs!!


will you stop already.

get used to it, cause more could come and they might not be polish!

then what?


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englishman [Guest]
  Dec 28, 06, 00:30  #6

70 Polish bus drivers have been sacked by stagecoach coz they cant read the signs and one man was killed by a polish bus driver driving up a one way street the wrong way! Sorry to be honest, but most british people object to things like this. You would feel the same if it was happening in your country

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Patrycja19
  Dec 28, 06, 00:45  #7

Quoting: englishman, Post #6
70 Polish bus drivers have been sacked by stagecoach coz they cant read the signs and one man was killed by a polish bus driver driving up a one way street the wrong way! Sorry to be honest, but most british people object to things like this. You would feel the same if it was happening in your country


well, let me see, wouldnt that be the fault of the company hiring to make sure
people did know the streets, signs, etc? I mean comon you have to be qualified
for a job, if the employer dont want to educate you , then how would they know?

the streets I am sure are different, signs, so it would be the employers responsiblity
to make sure they are hiring competent people, and training goes along with it.
if the employer is tooooooo cheap, then yes, recipe for disaster! why are there
so many jobs " 70" bus driving jobs, where are the British bus drivers who did
this before the Polish started coming????

you can just blame them, they need training , everyone needs on the job
training, you dont just know everything when you start a job. and if people are
training them wrong because they want the POLES to leave, well then its their
fault as well.

Maybe they should create a company that goes around making sure that people
"employers" are doing what they should be doing when they hire and are following
policys they put forth in order to have fair labor Practice!

and designate people to train the right way so that this can be avoided!


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englishman [Guest]
  Dec 28, 06, 00:54  #8

Any company in the world likes to reduce its costs, so the current "trend" is to employ polish people instead of Britsh people because their living costs are that much lower ie they tend to share rooms, houses etc on mass and send most of the money home. Yes there should be better training and i assume most drivers just scrape through the tests. But sometimes a test isn't what it's all about, its about local knowledge, experience, communication and cultural ability as well. The polish bus drivers round my city are well known for letting people on at a cheaper price, but not giving a ticket. Guess where that money is going??

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Patrycja19
  Dec 28, 06, 01:15  #9

Quoting: englishman, Post #8
Any company in the world likes to reduce its costs,


again, i say, if the company employs then they are responsible. they are the
ones who hire and fire. it is their job to make sure these folks know the job
as for the people getting on at a cheaper price, well, again, when hiring , making
sure that these employees who have to deal with money are honest, by that
I mean bonded (thru a local Police Dept) , this ensures that if they do steal
then it could mean loss of job, and jail time.

what policys are in effect similar to this?

also too, if the employer is paying less, and the person is living off scraps, instead
of comfortable like they should, why would they not do what it takes to keep their
head above water?

I know its wrong, but it is also wrong for employers to Rob these folks of what
they deserve = EOE so they can have honest employees working for them and
that they wont feel cheated just because they are different race.

sorry, but the Govt opened the doors, and its up to the Employers and People
who live there to help this process go smooth, fighting it isnt working is it?

so do you think if you go to poland you should have same oppertunities as
they do with same amount of money? or should they lower your pay to
CHEAP WORKer and keep you below minimun wage so that you struggle in
a foriegn country and almost starve and resort to stealing to feed yourself ?

I am sooooooooo very curious of your answer.


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englishman [Guest]
  Dec 29, 06, 07:59  #10

Here in the United Kingdom we have a minimum wage, prob about US$7per hour. All people regardless should be paid this at least and i support that. Bus companys would not pay less than min wage,they would be fined millions of dollars.So there is no need to steal.

However, my point is this: a bus driver will,typically, get paid $9-10per hour. Now this figure is slowly reducing because of people coming to work from east europe,mainly Poland. Why pay a $9-10ph when Poles will do it for the minimum??The Brits therefore have to find another job or accept the lower wages. $7 an hour is a lot in Poland, so they live very very frugally in this country and send the rest home; before leaving after saving enough. Unfortunately they are bringing wages levels down for everybody else who cannot live frugally because they live here permenently, ie those with families, mortgages at UK prices etc (this is very expensive country).

If i went to Poland to work i would expect minimum wage at least (if they have one). But would the Poles being paid above minimum wage be happy if 600,000 Brits turned up happy to work for the legal bare minimum,therefore putting their jobs and wages at risk??

Additionally, do you think having young teachers, lawyers,nurses and other professionals from Poland coming to work in Britain as bus drivers, shop assistants and in McDonalds is benefitting Poland?? I dont see how it can be. Id be interested to hear your answer to that!

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Amathyst
Edited by: Amathyst  Dec 30, 06, 08:52  #11

adequate training and assessment could have made the accident avoidable.


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Wroclaw
  Dec 30, 06, 09:33  #12

Quoting: englishman, Post #6
and one man was killed by a polish bus driver driving up a one way street the wrong way!


It wasn't a one way street. The bus was on the wrong side of the road. And it was a female passenger on the bus, who died as a result of the bus leaving the road.


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Wroclaw
  Dec 30, 06, 09:41  #13

So, there has been more than one death.

Sorry, englishman for quoting you out of context.

A. thanks for putting me right.


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Frank
  Dec 30, 06, 09:47  #14

Quoting: Amathyst, Post #13
including one where a bus crashed into a bridge, ripping the roof off.


This happens every once in a while...and long before there were Polish bus drivers employed!

After the dreadful series of train accidents in England in the last few years the companies who were employed privately to carry out mainentance were all found to be largely crap at the job, and most of them were Englishmen!

Lesson....?


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Amathyst
  Dec 30, 06, 09:49  #15

No worries Mr W, its been in the press quite a lot here and not doing the Polish any favours...but its down to the bus companies at the end of the day but the general public are not seeing that side of it, just whats being printed in the news and what isnt being printed is the lack of training and assessment of the bus drivers are receiving.


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Amathyst
  Dec 30, 06, 09:50  #16

Quoting: Frank, Post #15
After the dreadful series of train accidents in England in the last few years the companies who were employed privately to carry out mainentance were all found to be largely crap at the job, and most of them were Englishmen!


very good point frank, very good point indeed.


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Frank
  Dec 30, 06, 09:56  #17

As always....most of it is down to poor management....bean counting and failing to instill in employees a sense of wanting to do their job well!


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Amathyst
  Dec 30, 06, 09:59  #18

Things have improved frank I worked on the WCRM (west coast route mod) project for abt 14 months and the standards are pretty strict but then again there is always human error, like someone setting the points wrong and a train derailing as a result!


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Frank
  Dec 30, 06, 10:05  #19

Yup.....but as that last programme showed, the crash at barnet, was wholly down to total ineptness etc.........its a pity ...


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daniel [Guest]
  Feb 24, 07, 06:49  #20

Gyn dob ray, mate; come over you are welcome !

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Nigel
  Sep 29, 07, 14:04  #21

It is a very poor and irresponsible manager who employs drivers on a cost only basis. The firms that do it are not worth the bother of working for. Their employment policys show how much regard they have for their employees.They usually cant get English workers for that reason and the fact that they are as tight as a ducks wotsit.
That said , a driver should be able to drive the vehicle(for which he is supposedly trained) in a safe and efficient manner which does not involve undue aggression or the display of bad manners to the public. If he cant follow road signs(which are the same in all of Europe-by law)then I doubt he can drive safely anywhere. How do these people get licences? or are the test standards different. I drove in 18 countries but I only Know 3 languages. Therefore language shouldn't be an issue, it never affected me or my colleagues. Poorly trained drivers will always be an unacceptable risk.Trucks and buses can do too much damage and should be left to the competent drivers.
Before anyone says it- yes we have the odd bad apple aswell. There arent that many though and we do sort them out.

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Nigel
  Sep 29, 07, 16:08  #22

they should be already competent enough to understand basis road signs

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jonathan [Guest]
  Oct 5, 07, 10:33  #23

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marque
  Oct 11, 07, 14:54  #24

Just out of interest, I went on a Bus Drivers recruitment course, in London and yes, it was with Stagecoach. The minimum amount of driving as a learner was 30 hours, spread over 3 weeks, yes I had held a driving licence for more years than I would want to divulge, the driving examiner was very stringent and met all of the usual standards of driving, he was not part of Stagecoach, apart from that I had to sit the usual computer theory test, to which I passed with flying colours.
Having gained my bus drivers licence at the first attempt, I duly went out with my brand new double decker bus, after half an hour, gues what??? Yep I hit a car!!! So in essence, the testing of all new drivers meets all of the legal requirements and yes unfortunately, accidents do happen.

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Nigel
  Oct 13, 07, 17:48  #25

maybe you need a bit more practise

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dtaylor
  Oct 13, 07, 20:40  #26

Quoting: englishman
Here in the United Kingdom we have a minimum wage, prob about US$7per hour. All people regardless should be paid this at least and i support that. Bus companys would not pay less than min wage,they would be fined millions of dollars.So there is no need to steal.


1, u talk utter crap, 2. u are a twit....thats twit spelt with an A.


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Nigel
  Oct 15, 07, 09:25  #27

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quote=dtaylor] 1, u talk utter crap, 2. u are a twit....thats twit spelt with an A. [/quote]

Actually he isn't.His last posting was sensible apart from all those dollar signs.As for stealing,well many of the drivers are known for fiddling and they take pride in their ability to do it.The brits did it years ago aswell.Getting receipts for diesel they didn't buy,for tyres that never got changed,money for tickets that weren't bought.Believe me there are thousands of ways which was why Polish wagon drivers always had all the accessories possible,the sat nav,the sat tv,the chrome air horns,the video recorders,the top of the range cb's.Their bosses didn't but that
and all on their magre (then not now) 500 pounds per month.A polish driver is more than able to increase his salary and will rip you off.
I was talking to an old friend about the diesel scam(1995). He said that "if he paid me 1000.....no 10,000 pounds a week,I would still take his diesel....Bo trzeba"(because one should)Anyone who runs transport take note-you have to up your game,fit drip meters,have your tyres numerically marked and they'll still find a way because [b]Polack potrafy[/b]As wise as you think you might be,you'll always be one step behind if you dont employ someone who is wise to their fiddles.

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ellafucella [Guest]
  Oct 16, 07, 00:43  #28

I hope you get your bus driver job. Here in England our Goverment looks after our people so well financially that they have no need to work. Why drive a bus round all day for £8 per hour when the Goverment pay Rent, Council Tax, free dentist, prescriptions, and lots of other goodies thrown in! I feel sorry for the Polish Driver who can not read the road signs when driving the bus. The bus Company were at fault here. And hey! What about us poor English passengers, bornand bred here, being driven around by the Polish Driver! All he wants is a job. All we want is to live in our own Country without putting our life in our hands each time we go shopping! English fiddle as well.....every country has a fiddler somewhere!

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Nigel
  Oct 16, 07, 05:14  #29

I hope he gets a job too,if hes good enough to do it to a HIGH standard and doesn't put anyones income in jeopardy.If not,....bye bye

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olamum
  Oct 16, 07, 05:31  #30

I remembered this story about a POlish bus driver.Anyone read it? Attached is the link! I found it hilarious.But obviously I do not mean to offend anyone.Anyone could have pulled it off!

A bus driver took passengers on a detour to deliver and unload a cooker and a chest of drawers for friends.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6457907.s tm

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