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Looking for software project manager in Poland


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LearnWithoutLimits [Guest]
  Aug 8, 06, 05:56  #1

We would like to hire a Polish software project manager directly who works from their home with programmers from around the world. We don’t know what is the going rate of pay for a software project manager. Can you help us by posting any current jobs you know of below? (I think everyone will benefit from learning where the best jobs are.)

City | Years Experience | Wage

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Wujek_Dobra_Rada [Guest]
  Aug 8, 06, 06:15  #2

You can post an advertisement on

jobpilot.pl
itkontrakt.pl
pracuj.pl

1 PLN = 5,8 pounds or $3,0

a database engeneer with 2 years of experience earns c.a. 5000 PLN brutto per month..
a project director of a small software project earns c.a. 6000 PLN brutto per month.. a software project manager or a software engeneer with 10 years of experience earns c.a. 12000 PLN brutto per month.. a director of a department in a software company earns ca. 40000 PLN per month.

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LearnWithoutLimits [Guest]
  Aug 8, 06, 07:40  #3

Thank you! This is a great help.

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richard [Guest]
  Sep 6, 06, 11:05  #4

Hi,

If you would like to hire a company to help you find someone then please feel free to contact me on my email rs@tech-people.com

Regards

Richard Smith

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maverick [Guest]
  Mar 21, 07, 15:10  #5

there was a mistake: 1 Pound is 5.7 PLN and $1 is 2.91 PLN
the rest is correct but brutto means gross

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mohdanu [Guest]
  Apr 1, 07, 10:58  #6

I am a scientific staff in a university in Germany (still two years to get my PhD). I may move to Poland after marrying my polish girlfriend. I would like to get in programming(desktop or internet). Do you people think that I will get a job as a beginner. I would meanwhile like to approach some companies in Poland (maybe international) to get some assignments to get experience (programming as well as Poland). Do you know such companies which would not mind me(34 years old). Could anyone of you help me?

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mohdanu [Guest]
  Apr 1, 07, 11:01  #7

Do programmers have a chance there? Which type of programmers?
Do you know how much is a normal non experienced once paid?

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Grzegorz_
  Apr 1, 07, 11:06  #8

Quoting: mohdanu
Do you people think that I will get a job as a beginner.


Now It's not a problem to get a job in Poland, but don't except any real money.

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mohdanu [Guest]
  Apr 1, 07, 11:54  #9

Thanks

What I am getting in Poland is not money (much more valuable - a real love). We will surely be happy if I can just earn for basic life requirements.

Still any idea, how much I can minimum earn?

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Grzegorz_
  Apr 1, 07, 12:02  #10

Quoting: mohdanu
Still any idea, how much I can minimum earn?


Hard to say, If you are very good, you may make not bad money even by western standards, but unless you are very good It's hard to find a job for more than 500 EUR.

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Grzegorz_
  Apr 1, 07, 12:03  #11

And minimum wage is something like 175 EUR a month, but that's theory, in practice most of people won't even think about taking this kind of job.

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mohdanu [Guest]
  Apr 1, 07, 13:25  #12

Thanks Grzegorz_

What if I cannot speak the language at all?

Can I get some part time jobs doing with the languages which I know? I am native Armenian, however speak English and German too.

By the way, are you polish?

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Grzegorz_
  Apr 1, 07, 15:09  #13

Quoting: mohdanu
What if I cannot speak the language at all?


Well, that sucks.

Quoting: mohdanu
Can I get some part time jobs doing with the languages which I know? I am native Armenian, however speak English and German too.


If you knew Polish and all these languages then for sure, but without Polish It's hard to say.

Quoting: mohdanu
By the way, are you polish?


I think so.

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Teq [Guest]
  Apr 2, 07, 19:34  #14

Just a quick note on that topic.
Mohdanu you CAN and most likely WILL find a job without polish language skills as long as you have no problems with English/German, the real problem for you as far as I understand is the fact that you're a beginner (programming beginner? what languages?), don't expect wonders here, there are hundreds of graduates hunting down any well paid positions available in the job market - graduate jobs, international companies with graduate programmes that would probably be the target for you.
There are companies out there hiring foreigners for the localization of their software, for their marketing departments and so on. Depending on your skill set and experience - you didn't write what the science area of your PhD is. Perhaps you would be more suited in an lab of an R&D department. If you're doing a PhD in medical sciences, and want to move to IT/CS to apply both, I'd have to say... forget it. Pharma in Poland is basically medical sales, period. Very few real laboratories with proper research, some clinical trials, nothing exciting, general waste of time. Universities today do have fantastic science departments and are blooming with EU funding, unfortunately PhD students are still treated as the fifth wheel and paid ridiculous money, completely impossible to survive on those studentships... believe me I KNOW.
Anyway I wouldn't expect salary at a German level, you get more money as a PhD student in Germany (BAT/2 I suspect) than you will earn as a full time employee in Poland and that for at least the first 18 months after starting a job (assuming a raise every 9 months and starting salary above average at around 3000 pln).
Also... remember that there is a reason why 2 million Poles evacuated the premises since the accession to EU... prices are sky rocketting (real estate), salaries are flat-lining and as a result some very smart people are running away, that's really not because of the politics, it's because of the bleak outlook.

On the other hand, girls are the most beautiful in the world, food is great, weather is fine most of the time, tens of cities worth visiting, sea, mountains, what else do you need ;)
I suggest working in Germany and part-time living in Poland, optimal combination, that is of course as long as your missus is willing ;)

PS. Skills, experience, education, willingness to learn, enthusiasm, age - this is the order of things the employers are looking for and that's the same everywhere around Europe, not only true for Poland. Always use what you already have.

Best wishes,
Teq

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zion [Guest]
  Apr 3, 07, 02:25  #15

Teq good report what the job situetion in Poland these days , I see lot of guys out there once then can score with a beautiful Polish girl they start thinking that all is beautiful in poland you right great cities , and places to see but when come to survive on 3000PLN if you luck and get a good job then things are not so beautiful anymore

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mohdanu [Guest]
  Apr 7, 07, 06:23  #16

Sorry, I was very busy during the week. Thanks for all comments and your precious guidance.

Teg, great picture! And very in detail. Seems you are very familier with the area(CS/IT). Zion, thanks for the very realistic views. I understand what you mean.

As far as the PhD is concerned, I am doing it in theoretical computer science (Boolean Constraint Satisfiability and such stuff) I was sometimes also interested in efficient algorithms. (I can not say I am an expert.) I already have an agreement here regarding my PhD and am getting paid. I want to marry now but as you said live there only occasionally. So I will move there for good only after completing my work here. She has also agreed and giving me full support.
I have basically learnt many programming languages and so on in school during my bachelor studies. (c, c++, vb, core java, html, php, perl, javascript, mysql, sql, sybase, matlab) What I will need is to know which of these or others are mainly used in poland and try to learn what I don't know and sharpen my skills side by side before moving there. As a PhD student in computer science, I don't think that it will take more than some months to master any language. The problem would still remain that all what I know is accademic and not much practical experience. That is why it would be great if I could get in contact with some companies when I am there and do some small assignments for them as to be known to them and also get some experience.(would this work in Poland?)

I would still appreciate any comments as they are so useful.

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mohdanu [Guest]
  Apr 7, 07, 06:29  #17

However being a programmer is not what I only look at. I could think of that as the only job start for me. I would be open to any job which is somehow little related to my background.

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anialw [Guest]
  Apr 11, 07, 19:25  #18

Can anyone tell me how hard it is to find a job as a software Project Manager in Warsaw? What are companies looking for in terms of experiance, education, and certification?

I have a bachelors degree in Business Administration, PMP certified, worked for large companies such as MCI, Nextel, American Chemical Society, etc. Have done consulting as well. Total years or experiance is 9 years. I have also been a Business Analyst prior to being a PM.

I do not however have an IT degree, and do not do programming. This is not an issue in the US, however just want to put it out there.

What masters degree would help me get ahead? An MBA or Masters in IT Management?

Thanks for your help in advance and any help in websites advertising jobs would also be great.

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Grzegorz_
  Apr 11, 07, 19:39  #19

Quoting: anialw
I have a bachelors degree in Business Administration, PMP certified, worked for large companies such as MCI, Nextel, American Chemical Society, etc. Have done consulting as well. Total years or experiance is 9 years. I have also been a Business Analyst prior to being a PM.


Definately enough to find a good job, but do you know the language ?

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anialw [Guest]
  Apr 11, 07, 19:50  #20

Obviously speak English fluently, although American English. I also speak Polish but may have a harder time with grammar since I left Poland at 12 years old. Of course speak it, understand it, read it, ect but again I don't currently use it for business purposes.

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Grzegorz_
  Apr 11, 07, 19:59  #21

OK, I'm not sure about a kind of job you are asking for, but you should find a good job, 200 million Poles escaped to UK, so there are no big problems with unemployment anymore.

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INZAGHITHEONE [Guest]
  May 28, 07, 07:29  #22

hello everyone ,i am fom algeria can i find some work in poland.. spiciality tecniligical, mecanic.

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