Lwów, Wilno ... kresy.

O course no body is thinking to have war and take it back ... but we have lost enormoust part of our heritage...

Polish buildings in Lwow (Today 99% Ukainians 1% Polish people)









Wilno (before the war Polish majority, after the war Lithuanian ... )

Old Polish buildings there:

This reminds me of that old Alexander Patton song from way back in 1965, "Make the best of what you got":

Life is a good thing
children, if you just try to make
the best of what you got

M-G (stop whining about the past and look towards the future. The past is limited, the future infinite)

I am not whining. I show some facts. When you came here. You have been talkinga bout poor Germans. I find it strange that everybody is telling Poles to stop whining, and why you don't tell the same for Jews about Holocaust. We are not whining because we don't think about past, unfortuantely we have processes in courts with Jews and Germans in properites cases. So I feel we need to show something. they don't move forward. ... they want money (Germans are pathetic).

Polish people would love to move forward !!!

Lukasz, you gotta let go.

Ok Why nobody said that for Bratwurs when he started to victimize Germans in WWII. 95% of Polish people moved forward. It seems that some people haven't so I wanted to show the other side of coin.

We don't love Ukrainians ... we have close realtions with them on political level. Is there better proof that we have moved forward... Some nations haven't done it and now we have some strange discussions.

I did, and I think I wasn't the only one.

I think having 6 million of your ppl killed for no other reason than that they are what they are is of an entirely different dimension than losing some cities, how painful that may be.

I don't sympathise with the Germans, I only wanted to state that all ppl have their dark pages and to deny it or defend it as being "just" only makes it worse. I do not condone any atrocities committed to ppl, no matter who it is that commits them. I do not condone what the Dutch did in Atjeh, I do not condone what the Russians did to the Poles, I do not condone what the Germans did to loads of ppls and I do not condone what the Poles did after the war to the Germans living in territories that were as of then Polish. Reactions immediately after the war are understandable, but they should not take too long and definitively not still being defended 60 years on. Instead you should say: ok, it happened and we are not proud of it, but it happened. That would be the just thing to say.



Well, what is stopping them? They're part of the strongest economic bloc in the world and starting to enjoy all the benefits that come with being part of the EU. Let's leave the past the past. You don't need to forget, but you need to forgive. If forgiveness is a stranger to ppl, future wars are born and the world will still be the same old sh*tty place it has always been. Have we ppl not learned from past mistakes?

And: I did critisize Bratwurst for doing that. Apparently you did not notice that.

M-G

We have processes in courts against Germans in cases of properties. That is the problem.

No, you do not ever let go you learn from your past. Lets see did they let go of 1932-33 in Ukraine? Yet you feel we can. This was our homes.

Poland wants Holocaust property restitution law by end of year

Jerusalem Post, Israel - 2 hours ago
Moreover, many of the areas populated by Jews ahead of WWII - the so-called Galicia region - are now located outside the boundaries of present-day Poland ...
After years of delay, the Polish government aims to complete the issue of Holocaust property restitution by the end of the year, Polish Ambassador to Israel Agnieszka Magdziak-Miszewska said Sunday.

The core of a bill, which was accepted by the Polish parliament in draft form two years ago, is ready, and the Polish government hopes to reach a resolution by the end of the year, she said in a briefing with Israeli journalists.

tinyurl.com/32p5k8



German's or Russian's that have yet to take responsabily, like Ukraine. You cannot think just ignoring historical responsability has a time limit? We lost more than land, we lost family and we will never forget our family. As far as forgive, how do you forgive when the one's you need to forgive ignor? I guess when they can say they are sorry and be responsable we can begin to heal.

Thank you for the beautiful pictures, to some of us this will always be Poland.

AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH
Dont worry Luky baby,I get where your coming from,they really are gorgeous looking cities. Thanks for the pic's.