Why so many bad candidates for Poland Prime Minister?

mate its Russia, expect anything :)


just don't vote for these people its simple, surely if they were so bad then nobody is going to give them a chance

Neither of them would take action alone. That's what all these emergency committees are for etc

Now their sons do that. What measures against that families in general are elaborated? The point is that persons you are talking about are quite old and their familiars promoted by them are away from the range of these measures.

We were refering to Poland! The individuals in question are experts in the area of manipulation( afterall they were trained heavily in this area) they hide behind the banners of parties like LiD pulling the strings accordingly. Promising all kinds of social programmes to end poverty while living in Warsaw's best districts and using their positions to sign contracts with western companies that benefit their cronies.

British middle classers will superate crisis. Labourists are brave only in following the cowboy from Texas

These are moral measures that send out direct signals to those that seek to use public positions for illgotten gains. Responsibility is extremely difficult to pinpoint on certain families but trying ensures a moral victory and sets the ground for a society to be built under new values

Public office will no longer be seen as a meal ticket to illgotten gains! It will lose its attractiveness for certain individuals because they will be held responsible for their actions

No fear for Nurnberg trial and antinazy lustrations in any state. Extremism isn't afraid of that precedent because everybody known that sons of many nazy activists could do a more successful career than ordinary Germans. Many examples of the sort. No possuibility to be successful in business for nazy son if his father was an ordinary butcher as he was before Hitler. No lessons. No good precedents.

thats right they have the COBRA board, however surely the final decision is made by the main man/woman??


surely the Polish can see round these false promises??

Nothins of the sort. Lots of sexual and corruption scandals in politics and public service. All puniched are substituted by those who follow those punished

Maybe but I doubt it, I think that would be pretty dangerous.

But where will he meet true promises?

Exactly!!!

i'm not sure what you mean here, but for me why can't they just be honest and say well this is what we can give you, you might not like it in a dream world but this is real life.

That would cut all the lies and time wasting that they did and do :)


well nobody else wants the responsibility so i expect they do, lol, it is dangerous but somebodies got to do it :)

That may well the case as far as certain historical precedents are concerned. However. Nurnberg sent a message out and certain individuals were punished. Communism needs its Nurnberg and not western politics supported Chinese Olympic ambitions to show the world how great communist China is. The Chinese communist party is a criminal organisation as were all former coomunist states. The west is morally bankrupt while opening dealing and supporting a state that not only has no legal mandate from its people but also punishes any form of real dissent with murder

That was possible in Poland in 16-18 centuries when only 15 of families (high and middle classers) were voters. They had common sence.
That was also possible in UK in some 1832 when the same persentage of gentlemen and middle classers participated.
Now lumpens and low classers are in the majority. They hear only that they want to hear. They always reject some negative and trust those who promoses more.
No common sense. Those who tell the truth, loose elections.

I believe (Politics is not my thing) that decisions are made by all members of committees like COBRA etc

by dangerous I meant that if one person makes the decision, why have a committee? One person making the decision is a dictatorship.

The west has never really been able to see them with all their secret services and economic influence they still can't understand or except that Communism was a crime against humanity. Yes, that's correct! Any effort to make communism a crime against humanity has always been stopped by the west. Why? Certain western governments and companies made deals with communists during and after the so call fall of communism in Poland and will never except a legal precedent that states these individuals committed crimes against humanity for purely economic reasons. Therefore they actively attack the twins government in Europe for fear of this happening.

the committee is formed for brainstorming of ideas etc etc, there are all kinds of different angles, for example, the military angle, diplomatic angle and many others, it is the PM's job to decide which idea or mixture of ideas he/she goes with.

A good example of these types of pressures and conferences is 'thirteen days' about the Cuban Missile Crisis

ow man come on leave of the west, everything in the world seems to be the fault of the west, how about you look closer to home :)

I'm of different opinion. How can I condemn Chinese criminals if I suspect the majority of Chinese people didn't gain from Communist party only because they didn't manage to make a career during regime. Not because of some moral obstacles but by the lack of chance.
If the majority is of this nature why some more successful should be condemned?

The second argument: I'm sure my main enemy isn't from the government. It is the man next door or a my collegue at work. Anybody of my rank and social position. Or a lumpen.
That's why state irregular structures are more required, not symbolic hunt.

This is true but generally the committee is made up of "experts" (if that's a good word to use) so generally the decision is made my them. Any decision the PM makes comes from a shed load of advice from many advisors/experts.

Exactly the same thing is now repeating in China. Can you imagine twenty years down the line when certain individuals seek to punish members of the Chinese communist party, which by then will have made up the majority of Chinese partners for westerm joint ventures;agreeing to set a precedent that would make communism a crime against the Chinese people. Western companies would lose billions ! This is the same game as was played here and in all former communist states

agreed, thats basically what i was saying, the advisor's specialise and come from a different point of view

Do you imagine China today? Do you know its history. The majority of Chinese people are afraid of Civil wars of 19-20 centuries when China lost half of its population.
Communist Party is the guarantee that internal conflicts don't come. Nobody studies marxism-leninism in China as well as class struggle. Stability only.
I'm not sure you can suppose any alternative to more than a billion people there.

What type of crisis you are discussing?

Did you ever notice it's leaders like george bush and jaroslaw kacynski that never actually participated in a war that are the most gung ho about war?
And why is aleksander kwasniewski getting publicly drunk when he has a total babe like jolanta at home?

to supporters of "grate" Jaro ;)

You consider him as a grate anti -commie ...

Ok

so what has he done for 2 years time ?

Why ex-commies still have enormous pensions (in comparison to the rest) why he havent changed it ? Privatisations, he promised to check them, and what do we have ? Which proces of prvation he have checked ? He promised to send to jail some politicians for corruption, and what do we have? his ministers are acdcused of taking bribes ...



As to style he is primitive

As to economy he isnt to good in this case ;), he sends his whole salary on mums account, because she is good in economy ... no comment

Jaro and his mum ;)





He is crazy, he thinks that everybody can be ex- commie agant ... we have 2007 !!!


Lets change him.

Come on, he promises a lot, but as to work ....

There is no alternative to freedom! Communism will never provide conditions for self actualization. Self actualization being part of man's inner desire. Communism destroys man's humanity and relationship with society. It destroys his inner strenght and search for self actualization.

Stability has no benefit without the freedom of the individual in society to seek self actualization!