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Why so many bad candidates for Poland Prime Minister?


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truhlei
  Sep 28, 07, 03:46  #121

Quoting: James123
There is no alternative to freedom! Communism will never provide conditions for self actualization. Self actualization being part of man's inner desire. Communism destroys man's humanity and relationship with society. It destroys his inner strenght and search for self actualization.

James, less slogang more details.
For a Chinese now freedom means a bicycle and later an apartment for his family. A food work in city because in the village the maximum is 2 USD for 12 hours work a day.
He even doesn't have time to think about political freedom.

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truhlei
  Sep 28, 07, 03:52  #122

Quoting: James123
Stability has no benefit without the freedom of the individual in society to seek self actualization!

Stability is always benefitial when it is alternative to mass deaths.
China will receive the desire to move toward freedom but it will come slowly.
Internet is the main way to form democratic ideas in the future.

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truhlei
  Sep 28, 07, 03:58  #123

As to Jaro, the report of Polish Military Intelligence translated into different languages is enoug.
That body was a sinecura absolutely useless for state security. It was created to assist Soviet intelligence and lost any reason for existence after 1989. No possibilities to penetrate into today Russian secrets and no reason to learn NATO ones.
They were budget vampires that and some of personell used status to solve their private problems.
And how did the report describe them? As terrible fifth column. That shows that Jaro isn't yet ready to fight with real and strongest fufth column.

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Jaszczolt
  Sep 29, 07, 07:02  #124

Quoting: Polson
The same that supports the death penalty, the same that puts Christianity wherever he can ? The same that is supported by the antisemitic, racist Radio Marija ?? Wow ! So if he's a good Prime Minister, please tell me what is a bad one ??


There isn't anything wrong with those things.
A bad Prime Minister would be a communist one, or at least a fanatic multi-culturalist..

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 29, 07, 07:35  #125

todays figures (only 3 parties in parlament :) )

PO 36,3% PiS 35,7% LiD 12,5%

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Jaszczolt
  Sep 29, 07, 08:21  #126

I find it irritating that Kaczynski couldn't have kept the relation better to the LPR.
But the LPR will return.

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Lukasz
  Sep 29, 07, 08:32  #127

Quoting: Jaszczolt
But the LPR will return.


I hope never ... their activity is harming for our country.

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Jaszczolt
  Sep 29, 07, 08:40  #128

Lukasz, everyone else're trying to dismantle the national sovereignty, so LPR has a very important task to perform.

A united EU-state will be one step closer to destruction.

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Lukasz
  Sep 29, 07, 09:00  #129

In my opinion strong EU is definately in Polands business

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Grzegorz_
  Sep 29, 07, 09:07  #130

What do you mean by stronger EU ? One federation with some French or Germanic guy sitting in Brussel and telling us what to do in our own country ?

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Grzegorz_
  Sep 29, 07, 09:08  #131



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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 29, 07, 09:18  #132

Quoting: Grzegorz_
What do you mean by stronger EU ? One federation with some French or Germanic guy sitting in Brussel and telling us what to do in our own country ?


by stronger I mean democratic EU without any dominating country, holding one EU line in relationships with other countries (USA, Russia, China ...)

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Jaszczolt
  Sep 29, 07, 12:41  #133

Lukasz, you can prevent that kind of high-level multi-state of developing into a kind of power-abuse.

Look fx at the recent EU-treaty/constitution (what they may want to call it). When Merkel had her period of chairmanship she did everything she could to push the treaty through, and still everyone is avoiding the fact that this EU-'constitution' is just like the earlier one, with some very, very few modifications.
The EU-politicians are doing this, because they saw how unsatisfied people were with the earlier one. And they give a d*mn about the people, as long as they get their things through, they're happy.

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truhlei
  Sep 29, 07, 13:01  #134

Quoting: Lukasz
by stronger I mean democratic EU without any dominating country, holding one EU line in relationships with other countries (USA, Russia, China ...)

Pedophile party in holland is a fellow traveller in this process.

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Lukasz
  Sep 30, 07, 03:10  #135

more than 80% of Polish society is pro-european ....

as to elections

The leader of Poland's main opposition party, Donald Tusk, is campaigning in the UK and the Irish Republic ahead of a election in Poland in October.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7020293.stm

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truhlei
  Sep 30, 07, 03:38  #136

Quoting: Lukasz
more than 80% of Polish society is pro-european ....

I would be greatly astonishe if Poles were pro-african. They are Europe residents.
I think, Lukasz, your opponents think only that some EU structures may damage Polish interests

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lech [Guest]
  Sep 30, 07, 11:52  #137

Why doesn't Donald Tusk let someone else from PO become prime minister if PO wins instead of him. Is he an egomaniac?

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johan123
  Sep 30, 07, 12:18  #138

Quoting: lech
Why doesn't Donald Tusk let someone else from PO become prime minister if PO wins instead of him. Is he an egomaniac?


Donald will never have to deal with this problem! PiS will win with landslide! Around 40%

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Polson
  Sep 30, 07, 12:19  #139

Quoting: johan123
PiS will win


Hope not !

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 30, 07, 12:23  #140

Quoting: lech
Why doesn't Donald Tusk let someone else from PO become prime minister if PO wins instead of him. Is he an egomaniac?


Tusk isnt perfect leader, but in comparison with Kaczysnki he shines ...

Quoting: johan123
Donald will never have to deal with this problem! PiS will win with landslide! Around 40%


40% :) never ...

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johan123
  Sep 30, 07, 12:25  #141

Quoting: Lukasz
40% :) never ...



Bookmakers are offering 2/1 to 5/2 on PO and even money on PiS!

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Polson
  Sep 30, 07, 12:26  #142

Quoting: johan123
Bookmakers are offering 2/1 to 5/2 on PO and even money on PiS!


What did they drink ?... :p

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johan123
  Sep 30, 07, 12:27  #143

Quoting: Polson
Hope not !


Hoping won't help you PiS will win with around 40% of the vote!
Quoting: johan123


Bookmakers are offering 2/1 to 5/2 on PO and even money on PiS!


Always follow the money!

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Grzegorz_
  Sep 30, 07, 12:27  #144

POlsheviks has no chance.

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johan123
  Sep 30, 07, 12:28  #145

Quoting: Polson
What did they drink ?... :p



A cocktail of facts and brutal reality!

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Polson
  Sep 30, 07, 12:34  #146

Noone can be sure about what will happen. I don't care about what say the bookmakers, the only thing i care is the result. ;)

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Polson
  Sep 30, 07, 12:35  #147

I don't want to be ashamed of what Polish government do anymore, so, yeah, i hope things are going to change !

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johan123
  Sep 30, 07, 12:37  #148

Quoting: Polson
I don't want to be ashamed of what Polish government do anymore, so, yeah, i hope things are going to change !



What exactly are you ashamed about? This government will go down as one of the best in history!

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Polson
  Sep 30, 07, 12:43  #149

One of the best ?? I guess the ones before must have been great sh*t if they were worse than the current one. Tell me what good things they have done ?

I'm ashamed of some of their reactions in Europe, always against everyone, sometimes it's okay, bu not always.

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johan123
  Sep 30, 07, 13:00  #150

Quoting: Polson
I'm ashamed of some of their reactions in Europe, always against everyone, sometimes it's okay, bu not always.


Europe's cowardly politics against Russia concerning the gas pipeline we changed after Warsaw's strong response. It took time but Europe has finally come to understand that Gazprom is nothing more than a KGB mafia run company!

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