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isthatu
  Sep 3, 07, 15:22  #121

actually,sorry,I think I get you now,joined the ranks in asking michal not to post snipey little anti polish comments at any conceivable chance......doh. shame irony and sardonic humor do not come across very well on forums,especially without the "right emoticon to express just how i feel...".

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Matyjasz
  Sep 3, 07, 15:32  #122

Quoting: isthatu
But,he has a valid point,no european country has experianced "communism" what europe has had forced on it has been ,Bolshivism followed by Stalinism all far from the origional ideas of communism,that of fairness and solidarity for the working man and woman.



Communism is just a utopia that although imposed several times in few parts of the world never worked out and caused more harm than good. Hell, Carl Marx even didn't liked the prols... It was just a big swindle and a lot of naive people fell for it. Communism stinks!

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isthatu
  Sep 3, 07, 15:39  #123

Quoting: Matyjasz
Communism is just a utopia that although imposed several times in few parts of the world never worked out and caused more harm than good. Hell, Carl Marx even didn't liked the prols... It was just a big swindle and a lot of naive people fell for it. Communism stinks!

Now that I can agree with 100% , My post was recaling why communism "seemed" attractive in the 1930s,not a defence of a political dogma(they are a waste of time as the real world doesnt fit into neat political ideals). Giving a reasoned argument as you did followed by communism stinks makes sense. Just piping up with "communisim stinks" on its own in a seeming atempt to fit in with some majority opinion is,and i stand by what i said,a hark back to America in the 1950s where everyone one who didnt toe the percieved line was branded a "commie"............

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Krzysztof
  Sep 3, 07, 17:01  #124

I just wanted to add that there's also a huge amount of ignorant people in Poland blaming every misfortune on the post-communist period and praising their Gierek, the truth as usually lies somewhere in between, but the historic fact that communism (both Russian and Polish) had made a mess of Poland, is so obvious, it doesn't even need to discussed

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Sep 3, 07, 17:15  #125

Quoting: isthatu
Just piping up with "communisim stinks" on its own in a seeming atempt to fit in with some majority opinion


It's my view and one I am entitled too whether or not you agree with it. It is not an 'attempt' to do anything else !!!


Quoting: Krzysztof
but the historic fact that communism (both Russian and Polish) had made a mess of Poland, is so obvious, it doesn't even need to discussed


It would seem Krzysztof that some do need to discuss it :(

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Sep 3, 07, 17:26  #126

Quoting: isthatu
So silly little comments like "communism stinks"


Well, I don't think my comment was 'silly' nor do I go about making comments about some of your posts which I may disagree with. You aren't polish are you ?

Communist stinks and it stank too much in Poland for far too long !!.......

:(

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Eurola
  Sep 3, 07, 22:45  #127

Quoting: Michal
When I drive through Poland and see all the faithful walking to church


I see... you'd rather see them going to a temple?
Besides, you just used a present tense. You said, you never go to Poland. Get your stories straight, you... you know what.

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Michal
  Sep 4, 07, 09:27  #128

Quoting: Eurola
esides, you just used a present tense. You said, you never go to Poland. Get your stories straight, you... you know what.

I never go to Poland as my wife will not allow it. Apparantly after about three days I just start to complain so now she always goes without me. I do not really mind as it givers me the chance to go further afield and see other better things and there are, believe me, better things in life than Poland.

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isthatu
  Sep 4, 07, 12:54  #129

Quoting: Lady in red


Quoting: isthatu
So silly little comments like "communism stinks"


Well, I don't think my comment was 'silly' nor do I go about making comments about some of your posts which I may disagree with. You aren't polish are you ?

Communist stinks and it stank too much in Poland for far too long !!.......

:(


i stand by all i said,you are just a bandwagon jumper who wouldnt know where to start in presenting a rounded debate on any subject deeper than how much lady in red butt kisses any percieved majority opinion.....,end of...........

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Michal
  Sep 4, 07, 12:56  #130

Quoting: isthatu
aren't polish are you ?

I think her parents are or were from what I remember reading but she does seem to have a 'thing' about it all the same.

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isthatu
  Sep 4, 07, 13:10  #131

no,she asked me if I was,and as Ive said openly ,no,Im not,but not sure what that has to do with the price of fish.......she cant be though michal surely,most Poles I know have a sense of humor........
Its funny though,her seeming "ingrained" hate of "communism" doesnt sit well with the fact that as someone who appears to want to stiffle debate and go along with the "majority" veiw,she would have made a cracking little Young Pioneer........

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Sep 4, 07, 13:20  #132

Quoting: isthatu
someone who appears to want to stiffle debate



such a load of rubbish you spout........:(

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Sep 4, 07, 13:23  #133

Quoting: isthatu
her seeming "ingrained" hate of "communism"



and of course you are an authority on whether or not someone has an 'ingrained' hate of communism if they make certain statements......

you just do not like strong minded women speaking, that's what your issue is.

:(

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Michal
  Sep 4, 07, 13:23  #134

I sometimes wonder what she actually finds here of interest on this forum as there seems to be no real mention of politics and certainly nothing to do with Poland or the language. She does not seem to be very well educated at all. Maybe it is just the companionship she can make with other similar girls I suppose that we all need a 'moral crutch' in life. Either you are married with a family or if you are a female you buy a horse. I think it is a control element. Women like to be in charge, maybe that is why people like animals and have a dog. You throw a stick and the dog fetches it its a strange sort of ownership. Otherwise the middle class like to attend church, it is the coming together of similar schooled people. People can often find their 'soul mate through church services.

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Sep 4, 07, 13:25  #135

Quoting: isthatu
you are just a bandwagon jumper



whatever that means...........at least i have some friends on here. Not like you who has to keep taking quotes from my previous posts in order to try and attract some information.


Michal and you are pretty sad characters in my book. I feel sorry for the pair of you.

:(

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Sep 4, 07, 13:28  #136

Quoting: Michal
She does not seem to be very well educated at all.



You're such a sad person. Very sad.


Remember, what goes round comes around.........Every front has a bigger back.

Your time will come........so enjoy while it lasts :(

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Lady in red [Guest]
  Sep 4, 07, 13:30  #137

Quoting: Michal
never go to Poland as my wife will not allow it.




........another hen pecked miserable man who does not like strong minded women.....has to come onto a forum to try to boost his failing ego......


sad stuff innit.

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Hueg
  Sep 4, 07, 13:33  #138

Quoting: Michal
find their 'soul mate


You just need a Harmonica mate. :)

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Oscypek
  Sep 4, 07, 14:58  #139

Quoting: Michal
I never go to Poland as my wife will not allow it.


Your wife will not "allow" you to travel there with her...?

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isthatu
  Sep 5, 07, 16:18  #140

thanks admin ;)

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