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MERKEL BEGS ISRAEL FOR FORGIVENESS ? IS TUSK LINED UP NEXT ?


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WAKEUPPOLAND2
  Mar 29, 08, 16:37  #1

Merkel \18th March 2008: State Visit to Israel

"Germany will never abandon Israel but will remain a true friend and partner," Mrs Merkel said, in remarks carried by AFP news agency.

"Sixty years of Israel: that is most of all an occasion for great joy...

"Germany and Israel are and will always remain linked in a special way through the memory of the Holocaust. The Holocaust fills us Germans with shame," said Mrs Merkel.

"I bow before the victims, I bow before the survivors, and before all those who helped them so they could survive."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7303236.stm

If Donald Tusk is summoned to Israel to go and beg for forgiveness, will the average pole feel like bowing down for forgiveness?


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isthatu
Edited by: isthatu  Mar 29, 08, 16:43  #2

god,your fookin obsessed arnt you........whats the matter,were you stuck in a lift with a Neil Diamond record on a loop or what?

polsche erwache's posts,hhhmmmm,is this a sign of a mental disorder or what?


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WAKEUPPOLAND2
  Mar 29, 08, 16:47  #3

isthatu wrote:
whats the matter,were you stuck in a lift with a Neil Diamond record on a loop or what?


lol...below nothing to do with Zionists.....

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I dont have time to go on love and hate forums....


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joepilsudski
  Mar 29, 08, 17:10  #4

isthatu wrote:
whats the matter,were you stuck in a lift with a Neil Diamond record on a loop or what?


This is hilarious!...or, as we would say in the US, "Hillaryous'!

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isthatu
  Mar 29, 08, 17:13  #5

Thats the difference between you and this nut job Joe,while I dont agree with all your points,unlike polsche erwache I just dont see you going for the Final solution mkII :)


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WAKEUPPOLAND2
  Mar 29, 08, 17:38  #6

isthatu wrote:
Thats the difference between you and this nut job Joe,while I dont agree with all your points,unlike polsche erwache I just dont see you going for the Final solution mkII :)


My friend, I extend an olive branch (from the stolen farms in palestine)...its hard to write somehting bad about you because I keep looking at your Avatar and seeing your cheeky smile...oops i just realised its actually michael caine ? Do you speak Yiddish like him ? Only kidding.

Nut Job ? Why ?


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isthatu
  Mar 29, 08, 19:28  #7

lets just agree to disagree eh?
WAKEUPPOLAND2 wrote:
Nut Job ? Why ?

frankly,the constant banging on about jewish people mate,its disturbing,you ought to maybe get a hobby or something.


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joepilsudski
  Mar 29, 08, 20:38  #8

isthatu wrote:
Thats the difference between you and this nut job Joe,while I dont agree with all your points,unlike polsche erwache I just dont see you going for the Final solution mkII :)


I don't believe there is a 'final solution' for anything, and certainly not in regard to
dealing with a group of human beings, any human beings.

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Crow
  Mar 30, 08, 05:49  #9

MERKEL BEGS ISRAEL FOR FORGIVENESS ? IS TUSK LINED UP NEXT ?

but, of course. You would see.

As good puppy, he would follow Merkelicu.


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Crnogorac
  Mar 30, 08, 07:29  #10

joepilsudski wrote:
I don't believe there is a 'final solution' for anything, and certainly not in regard to
dealing with a group of human beings, any human beings.


The Nationalist Socialist Party of Germany's "final solution" to the Jewish question was to send all the Jews to Madagaskar. When this became impractical, due to problems with logistical issues, many were placed in detention centers no different then what the US did to it's Japanese citizens after the attack on Pearl Harbour. What reasearchers and historians need to find out using scientific means is whether the Holocaust which is a myth did or did not occur and on what scale?The Zionists if they claimed 6 billion were killed nobody would believe it, if they said 6,000 were killed they could'nt capitalize on such a figure, so by consensus the number 6 million was put out which is an ESTIMATE and not a FACT.

77% of Israel's infrastructure was built up from the extortion of Germany which after 1945 was forced to pay 4 billion USD annually and will continue to pay this amount until 2030.


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Grzegorz_
  Mar 30, 08, 10:39  #11

Tusk is going to beg Germany for fogiveness !


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Seanus
  Mar 30, 08, 10:50  #12

Britain would never under this man, a Tory of the 1980's in particular.

youtube.com/watch?v=54rhgUrzOXM&feature=related,

U might like this Greg, lesser u certainly will.


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polishcanuck
Edited by: polishcanuck  Mar 30, 08, 13:33  #13

Yes, Tusk should go to Israel to apologize (but for what?) .................. right after the jews apologize for back stabbing Poland (the country that invited them in the 14th c. when jews were being slaughtered like cattle in portugal) by siding with the ruskies in 1919-1921. Do you think poland was part of the axis in ww2? SS?

WAKEUPPOLAND2, get a f.ucking life.


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Seanus
  Mar 30, 08, 13:38  #14

Israel got their state in 1948 after WWII, what on earth would Tusk have to apologise for?


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Harry
  Mar 30, 08, 14:37  #15

Crnogorac wrote:
The Nationalist Socialist Party of Germany's "final solution" to the Jewish question was to send all the Jews to Madagaskar. When this became impractical, due to problems with logistical issues, many were placed in detention centers no different then what the US did to it's Japanese citizens after the attack on Pearl Harbour.


Why is it that Poles are so ready to make excuses for the Nazis? You guys were next on their list after the Jews and Roma. Why can't you remember that when you're seig heiling?

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Mar 30, 08, 14:56  #16

firstly in this discussion only Grzegorz is Polish from Poland.

Like in most of discussions here.

Crnogorac is form Monenegro.

Joepilsudski is form USA

polishcanuck is form Canada

Crow is Serb

Istahu is British

Seanus is British who live in Poland ...

There is not so many Polish people form Poland here ...

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going back to subject:

I don't think there will be some excuses ...


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Grzegorz_
  Mar 30, 08, 15:08  #17

Lukasz wrote:

firstly in this discussion only Grzegorz is Polish from Poland.


But for that gay any excuse is good enough to spread Polonophobia.


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Lukasz
  Mar 30, 08, 15:10  #18

I don't care about gays ...

I just wanted to notice one fact ...


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Seanus
  Mar 30, 08, 16:35  #19

youtube.com/watch?v=yhfEWqBvav0&feature=related, how many times must I say it??? We can't hold a country to ransom indefinitely for the actions of a raving lunatic. What happened to the Jews was VERY unfortunate, the world reacted too late, but what's done is done. We can't bring them back. One man's LUNACY brought that calamitous predicament about.

Let's move on, Israel got it's state. The video link I posted above contests Israel's right to exist. It's a 4 part documentary, lead by an Israeli Jew and prominent author. I encourage PF members to have a look at it.

How many more generations of Germans have to be put through this international shaming process? The same goes for Americans who are afraid to travel out of fear. Govts and individuals have ruined their innocent plans and it's high time politics stopped stirring up antagonism and attempting to create deep seated hatred.


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Harry
  Mar 30, 08, 17:13  #20

Seanus wrote:
it's high time politics stopped stirring up antagonism and attempting to create deep seated hatred.

Spot the man who doesn't understand what international politics is for.

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Seanus
  Mar 30, 08, 17:15  #21

I know about CLS Harry, u don't need to educate me


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isthatu
  Mar 30, 08, 18:16  #22

Lukasz wrote:
Crnogorac is form Monenegro.

wha,that pi ss ant little country that sucks serbias woohoo ?Didnt know they had that many nazi apologists there......


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Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Mar 31, 08, 13:58  #23

isthatu wrote:
Didnt know they had that many nazi apologists there......


Irving's "Holocaust"


1/5


2/5


3/5


4/5


5/5

Ishatu do you believe you are more qualified to speak about this subject then the English writer/historian David Irving?

This brave man was thrown into prison in the marxist EU because he dared to voice his own opinion which is opposite to what the system taught us in our schools of their "appropriate history".


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WAKEUPPOLAND2
Edited by: WAKEUPPOLAND2  Mar 31, 08, 15:08  #24

isthatu wrote:
wha,that pi ss ant little country that sucks serbias woohoo ?Didnt know they had that many nazi apologists there......


very intelligent input. Do they all talk like that oop north ?

So questioning History is wrong ?

Crnogorac wrote:
Ishatu do you believe you are more qualified to speak about this subject then the English writer/historian David Irving?

This brave man was thrown into prison in the marxist EU because he dared to voice his own opinion which is opposite to what the system taught us in our schools of their "appropriate history".


Well said!

WHAT HAPPENED TO SO CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH....?


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joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  Mar 31, 08, 15:51  #25

Crnogorac wrote:
The Nationalist Socialist Party of Germany's "final solution" to the Jewish question was to send all the Jews to Madagaskar. When this became impractical, due to problems with logistical issues, many were placed in detention centers no different then what the US did to it's Japanese citizens after the attack on Pearl Harbour. What reasearchers and historians need to find out using scientific means is whether the Holocaust which is a myth did or did not occur and on what scale?The Zionists if they claimed 6 billion were killed nobody would believe it, if they said 6,000 were killed they could'nt capitalize on such a figure, so by consensus the number 6 million was put out which is an ESTIMATE and not a FACT.


The Israelis don't even claim a 6000000 number...the Israeli museum at Yad Vashem
lists 3000000...the 6000000 number comes from the Kaballah, and from Soviet disinformation sources after the war...but the thing is, a lot of Jews were killed...it's just when you use the dead for propaganda and other purposes, things
get very ugly...MILLIONS were slaughter in WWI, the Bolshevik revolution and in WWII...all of these dead should be honored, because the vast majority were just little people, like you & me & our families.

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Crnogorac
Edited by: Crnogorac  Apr 2, 08, 07:49  #26

German ex-Chancellor Helmut Kohl Agreed that the Holocaust Was a Myth

KOHL

Iran: Helmut Kohl agrees with Ahmadinejad on Holocaust
Iran Focus

Tehran, Iran,– Former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl told Iranian businessmen in Germany that he agreed with statements by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that the Holocaust was a “myth”, the semi-official Jomhouri Islami reported on Monday.

The government-owned daily wrote that at a dinner gala with Iranian hoteliers and entrepreneurs, Kohl said that he “heartily agreed” with Ahmadinejad’s remarks about the Holocaust.

“What Ahmadinejad said about the Holocaust was in our bosoms”, the former German chancellor was quoted as saying. “For years we wanted to say this, but we did not have the courage to speak out”.

Ahmadinejad caused an international furor last year when he publicly declared that the Holocaust was a “myth” and threatened that Israel must be “wiped off the map”.

His comments were supported by senior Iranian officials, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and former president Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani.

The country’s state-run media have systematically defended the position of the Iranian president and given extensive coverage to historians and “experts” who deny the Holocaust took place.


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isthatu
Edited by: isthatu  Apr 2, 08, 08:02  #27

Crnogorac:
Ishatu do you believe you are more qualified to speak about this subject then the English writer/historian David Irving?

My 6 year old niece is more qualified than that moron......
This is a man who sells pro nazi memorabilia and books about how fantastic the ss were....,he hates Slavs as much as jews you misguided fool. He also claims nobody died of anything but natural causes in Auschwitz,sort of a slap in the face to the thousands of Catholic Poles who died there dont you think cromagnon?
So,may I suggest you just take a sh*t on the graves of all the Poles who died there or who died trying to save others from there .You are either insane or just a repulsive little man.

Crnogorac:
thrown into prison in the marxist EU because

no,thrown into prison in Austria,which at the time had a very right wing government....but,debating with odious little semi functioning imbiciles like yourself is a waste of time,I'll just let you crack on and show the world what a complete oxygen thief you are.....

WAKEUPPOLAND2:
WHAT HAPPENED TO SO CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH....?

agreed,we dont put him in prison over here,we just let him spout his nonsense and show himself for the complete idiot he is........


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rafik
  Apr 2, 08, 09:22  #28

WAKEUPPOLAND2:
If Donald Tusk is summoned to Israel to go and beg for forgiveness, will the average pole feel like bowing down for forgiveness?

we have nothing to say sorry for.we lived in one country which was invaded by the nazis.the poles didn't do anything bad.a few might have cooperated with the germans but it doesn't change anything.
the germans(not only the nazis!)have a lot to be sorry for.mind you that adolf hitlers party was widely supported in pre-war germany so the nazis were not just a handful of people.nobody realy says that cuz it is not politicaly correct.

all those who helped them so they could survive." --this is about poles i believe
WAKEUPPOLAND2:
(from the stolen farms in palestine

what do you mean stolen?it is their land.
why don't you go and mingle with your arab friends.you would be a perfect candidate for a shoe bomber


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WAKEUPPOLAND2
  Apr 2, 08, 15:59  #29

Grzegorz_:
Tusk is going to beg Germany for fogiveness !


polishcanuck:
Yes, Tusk should go to Israel to apologize (but for what?) ..................WAKEUPPOLAND2, get a f.ucking life.


Seanus:
Israel got their state in 1948 after WWII, what on earth would Tusk have to apologise for?


rafik:
we have nothing to say sorry for.we lived in one country which was invaded by the nazis.the poles didn't do anything bad.a few might have cooperated with the germans but it doesn't change anything.



Only Joe and CROGNORAC understood my point. The rest of you have no idea.

THE REST OF YOU GUYS ARE ALL ASLEEP....WAKEUP!!!!!!!!!!!.

DO YOU NOT REMEMBER OR IS YOUR HISTORY OF POLAND SO WEAK....

URL
BBC Tuesday, 10 July, 2001, 10:18 GMT 11:18 UK
Poland apologises to Jews
Polish President Alexander Kwsniewski: Tuesday, 10 July, 2001

"Polish President Alexander Kwasniewski has made a formal apology on behalf of the Polish people for a massacre of Jews 60 years ago."

QUOTE:
Polish President Alexander Kwsniewski: Tuesday, 10 July, 2001

"I beg pardon in my own name, and in the name of those Poles whose conscience is shattered by that crime"

"For this crime we should beg the souls of the dead and their families for forgiveness,"
UNQUOTE

This was only 7 years ago....what makes you think the HOLOCASUT PROPOGANDA MACHINE will not force TUSK to do the same?


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celinski
  Apr 2, 08, 16:08  #30

isthatu:
Didnt know they had that many nazi apologists there......


Isthatu, Seems to be your turn. lol

'UK is European center of anti-Semitism'
By ETGAR LEFKOVITS

Britain has become the epicenter for anti-Semitic trends in Europe as traditional, age-old anti-Semitism in a country whose literature and cultural tradition were "drenched" in anti-Semitism has developed into a contemporary mix of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism, an Israeli historian said Monday.

jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1206632378756&pagename=JPos t%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


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