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Monogamy - is it possible?


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Sunflower
  Sep 19, 07, 17:07  #1

Is monogamy really possible? Are we capable of it as human beings? Or do our selfish genes always drive us on to look for something else, someone different? In essence, are we designed to be monogamous, does evolution truly dictate our actions? If we are all products of chemical reactions, can we ever really control our most primal urge, that of procreation?

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szkotja2007
  Sep 19, 07, 17:12  #2

Five questions -
1. Yes
2.Yes
3. Sometimes, but its not in the genes.
4.No
5.Yes, we do it all the time.

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PolskaDoll
  Sep 19, 07, 17:21  #3

Quoting: Sunflower
Is monogamy really possible?


Yes.

Quoting: Sunflower
Are we capable of it as human beings?


Yes, it's got us this far...

Quoting: Sunflower
does evolution truly dictate


Quoting: Sunflower
most primal urge, that of procreation?


It's true that humans will eventually evolve away from monogamy and it has begun. However - sex will always happen because of procreation. There are so many single people now - who are happy that way - that it make you wonder if the human race is evolving away from relationships altogether.


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plk123
  Sep 19, 07, 17:29  #4

monogamy seems un-natural to me. i really don't think we are made to be that way. imho.

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Firestorm
  Sep 19, 07, 17:36  #5

Quoting: PolskaDoll
However - sex will always happen because of procreation. There are so many single people now - who are happy that way -


I Think the problem is.
Where once it was taboo.
And being a Virgin on your wedding night was looked on as a Big deal.
Now.
Sex is like anything else these days. So readily available.
So Publicised. Any paper you open.. Book you read.. Movie you see..
Kids even swap porn by Phone.. Its allmost a rite of passage..

We are swamped with it.. Its becomming overwhelming.
And harder to remain loyal to one person..

Monogomy is possible. And we all have it within us.
I dont know what makes One person do it.
And the next person jump anything with a pulse.

But with Diseases like aids and other STD's
I for one will remain apart from the pack. And monogomous.

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PolskaDoll
  Sep 19, 07, 17:42  #6

Quoting: Firestorm
Monogomy is possible


I do agree with this. I just think that generally the human race is moving away from it.

Quoting: Firestorm
And being a Virgin on your wedding night was looked on as a Big deal.


It used to be something to be proud of and nowadays people actually think it's something to be ashamed of...

Quoting: Firestorm
I for one will remain apart from the pack. And monogomous



Good for you! And so will I. With myself - lol :)


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Firestorm
Edited by: Firestorm  Sep 19, 07, 17:52  #7

Quoting: PolskaDoll
It used to be something to be proud of and nowadays people actually think it's something to be ashamed of...


There was a big thing in the papers not long ago.
A School banned a Group of girls for wearing Purity Rings.
Instead of praising them.

Now if being a sex maniac isnt frowned on in school.
What hope is there..

Quoting: PolskaDoll
Good for you! And so will I. With myself - lol :)

Its something to be proud of. And something your Partner/Future Partner. Should be proud of too.

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PolskaDoll
  Sep 19, 07, 17:58  #8

Quoting: Firestorm
There was a big thing in the papers not long ago.
A School banned a Group of girls for wearing Purity Rings.
Instead of praising them.


I read this. I remember being pretty outraged by this. There was some mention of it being banned because it was a 'faith' or something. Ridiculous. A group of girls decide they want to remain virgins and a school pushes them the other way...

Quoting: Firestorm
Now if being a sex maniac isnt frowned on in school.
What hope is there..


I agree.

Quoting: Firestorm
Its something to be proud of.


Surely should be.

Quoting: Firestorm
And something your Partner/Future Partner


lol - have you had some knowledge I didn't? Please share it... :)


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Firestorm
Edited by: Firestorm  Sep 19, 07, 18:00  #9

Quoting: PolskaDoll
because it was a 'faith' or something. Ridiculous

Yes they classed it as one. Or tried to claim it was one.

Quoting: PolskaDoll
lol - have you had some knowledge I didn't? Please share it... :)


Sure.. didnt you know i am psychotic.. Lol
I could tell you.. But what would be the fun in that..:))

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PolskaDoll
Edited by: PolskaDoll  Sep 19, 07, 18:02  #10

Quoting: Firestorm
Sure.. didnt you know i am psychotic.


Everyone know this... :)

Quoting: Firestorm
I could tell you.. But what would be the fun in that..:))



Probably none...you could just tell me though... ;)

Quoting: Firestorm
Yes they classed it as one. Or tried to claim it was one.



Which is ridiculous. Obviously they couldn't understand why some young girls wanted to remain virgins.


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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  Sep 19, 07, 18:03  #11

Let's get technical about it.
Within the animal kingdom,
the more similar the sexes look,
the more monogamous they are.
Human males and females are relatively similar,
ie. not like seals or walruses, that vary hugely in size,
or many of the insects and weird stuff.
Swan males and females are very similar, and also monogamous.

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Firestorm
Edited by: Firestorm  Sep 19, 07, 18:04  #12

Quoting: PolskaDoll
Everyone know this... :)


Cheeky :ppp
Just for that you can pick your own lottery numbers. Lol

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PolskaDoll
  Sep 19, 07, 18:06  #13

Quoting: Firestorm
Cheeky :ppp
Just for that you can pick your pwn lottery numbers. Lol



lol - which reminds me, I have a lucky dip on tonight...

Quoting: osiol
the more similar the sexes look,


Wood Pigeons (and many other birds) mate for life.


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osiol GOLD MEMBER
Edited by: osiol  Sep 19, 07, 18:08  #14

I admit it is a generalisation, but to a degree, the similarity of sexes : tendency towards monogamy ratio is true.

That doesn't mean individuals within a species (Homo sapiens sapiens, for example) and how similar they look has any bearing on the number of simultaneous partners.

Quoting: PolskaDoll
Wood Pigeons

Wood pigeons are good pigeons.

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Firestorm
  Sep 19, 07, 18:11  #15

Its the same as saying..
We all have the potential to great good.
Or great evil.

Monogomy is the same..

Its not genetic.
Its Choice.

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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  Sep 19, 07, 18:17  #16

Phenotypic plasticity.
Or is it free will?

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Firestorm
  Sep 19, 07, 18:20  #17

Quoting: osiol
Or is it free will?


The media has stolen our free will.

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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  Sep 19, 07, 18:23  #18

Quoting: Firestorm
The media has stolen our free will

The media have...
The medium has...

They haven't / it hasn't stolen mine.

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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  Sep 19, 07, 18:32  #19

There is everything from polygamy to nonogamy.
Is there such a thing as oligogamy?

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Lucynda
  Sep 19, 07, 22:03  #20

Quoting: Firestorm
Its not genetic.
Its Choice


Agree. On the other hand, if the man treats me poorly then I am out of there. But, in general, I think monogamy is easy once you've found the right person.

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Lonman
  Sep 20, 07, 02:38  #21

I would say what sets us apart from others in the animal kingdom is our ability to be monogamies ... From what I have read in PF there are soo many people that equate sex with love or make the focus of the relationship sex, are they good or bad. Now I write this as a single guy. From the marriages of close friends that I respect. I see the successful ones are where caring for the needs of the other is the primary way of showing love, not sex. So when you have a good healthy relationship where you truly love and care for your partner staying true to that one person is not even an issue.

If you think about going elsewhere for more sex, then you need to look at your relationship and see if it is healthy and if not what you can do to fix it.

my 2 cents....

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peaceandlove
  Sep 26, 07, 20:30  #22

monogamy excist only withing two animals horse sea, and escargo, monogamy for human impossible to excist

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Debianco
  Oct 2, 07, 15:24  #23

isnt it true that you look for a life mate based on physically similar characteristics- love and sex are different. sex is a primal need. love is not based on sex. but when you truely love someone thats the best sex of all!

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wildrover
  Oct 2, 07, 21:19  #24

Well i think we shoudn,t use monogamy any more as it is using up the hardwood forests of the world and destroying the envoirenment......or is that mahogany.....?

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basiaa
  Oct 2, 07, 21:32  #25

Quoting: Firestorm
Monogomy is possible. And we all have it within us.
I dont know what makes One person do it.
And the next person jump anything with a pulse.



Quoting: Firestorm
Its not genetic.
Its Choice.



its all about each persons morals.

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marek s
  Oct 3, 07, 10:36  #26

the most moraled people mess around sometimes.
it simply comes down to choice.

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plk123
  Oct 3, 07, 10:44  #27

if one isn't getting any, it's not really a choice.

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Ranj
  Oct 3, 07, 10:50  #28

Quoting: plk123
if one isn't getting any, it's not really a choice.

LOL

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plk123
  Oct 3, 07, 10:52  #29

it's true though.. most people step out of marriage because something isn't being satisfied by their partner.. most of the time it is sex but not always.

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beckski
  Oct 3, 07, 13:04  #30

Quoting: marek s
it simply comes down to choice


This is very true for me. When I'm in a serious relationship, I'm very monogamous.
The thought of infidelity sickens me.

When I'm truly in love with a man, he's basically who I think of, most of the time. He's also the one I want to share my quality time with.

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