PolishForums   Meet Polish People at PF!
Home . Polls . Search Witamy,  [Guest 38.103.63.18]  Latest Discussions . Unanswered Posts
 Please register or login below:

 » Username  » Password 
Polish Forums / Polish Politics & History /

More Revision of Historical Fact in Ynet News Israel


  «« 1 [2] 3  »»
posts: 76
 
Harry
Edited by: Harry  May 5, 08, 14:00  #31

joepilsudski:
Michael Chertoff, dual Israeli-American citizen is clearly not an American, yet he runs the Dept. of Homeland Security to protect us from terrorism!...this


Why is he not an American? Because he is a Jew?

He was born and has lived all his life in the USA. He qualifies for Israeli citizenship but has never claimed it. His mother, who was born in Poland, emigrated to Israel and worked as a flight attendant for El Al Airlines. Israel's citizenship law of 1952 says: "Any Jew who immigrated to Israel before July 14, 1952, was granted citizenship after declaring a desire to reside permanently in Israel." Furthermore, a "child born on or after July 14, 1952," is an Israeli citizen if "at least one of whose parents is a citizen of Israel, regardless of the child's country of birth."

Do you understand that? Chertoff is a citizen of Israel under Israeli law, not because he chose it. It is simply a fact of his birth.

Easy_Terran:
I thought that dual passport holders are crossed out compeletly while applying for mere and smallest government position :O

If you had a brain, you'd realise Chertoff does not hold two passports.

Member
Posts: 609
Joined: May 2, 07
                              
 
joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  May 5, 08, 14:32  #32

Harry:
Why is he not an American? Because he is a Jew?

He was born and has lived all his life in the USA. He qualifies for Israeli citizenship but has never claimed it. His mother, who was born in Poland, emigrated to Israel and worked as a flight attendant for El Al Airlines. Israel's citizenship law of 1952 says: "Any Jew who immigrated to Israel before July 14, 1952, was granted citizenship after declaring a desire to reside permanently in Israel." Furthermore, a "child born on or after July 14, 1952," is an Israeli citizen if "at least one of whose parents is a citizen of Israel, regardless of the child's country of birth."

Do you understand that? Chertoff is a citizen of Israel under Israeli law, not because he chose it. It is simply a fact of his birth.

No, because he is a traitor to America & Israel first...that simple...he helped draft the voluminous Patriot Act, which is a blueprint for tyranny worthy of the communists or the Israeli police state...he also released the so-called 'dancing Israelis' who videotaped the destruction of the WTC while dancing the hora on the roof of a New Jersey building, and sent them back to Israel without any open investigation of what they were dancing the hora about...actually, they were part of a Mossad front company...Chertoff is also Mossad...Chertoff is also a partner of another traitor, the Rabbi Dov Zakheim, who was the chief 'fascilitator' for the Mossad attack on 9-11...he was also comptroller of the Pentagon when almost $3 trillion 'disappeared' on his watch... another dual citizen, Representative Rahm Emmanuel, the chief Democratic fundraiser and Congressman from Illinois...both Mossad agents...Emmanuel's father was in on the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem back in 1948...Chertoff's mother was part of Mossad operation 'Magic Carpet' which airlifted Yemeni Jews to Israel back around the same time...she was a 'flight attendant'...both Chertoff and Emmanuel are traitors...Emmanuel specializes in blackmail...talk to Bill Clinton about him.


Harry:
If you had a brain, you'd realise Chertoff does not hold two passports.


Chertoff doesn't NEED a particular passport...he can have printed any kind of passport he wants.

Member
Posts: 703
Joined: Apr 27, 07
                              
 
Harry
  May 5, 08, 15:16  #33

^ Put your tinfoil hat back on, the Masonic/Zionist/Jewish/Illuminati secret government can read your thoughts when you aren't wearing your tin foil hat.


Well, they could if you actually ever had any thoughts....

Member
Posts: 609
Joined: May 2, 07
                              
 
Grzegorz_
  May 5, 08, 16:06  #34

Harry:
If I had a Polish passport, I would be Polish.


No, you wouldn't be... Har, have mercy... Do you seriously think that a Nigerian or Pakistani or Chechen guy becomes Polish the day he gets Polish citizenship... ? Of course not (HE IS A POLISH CITIZEN OF NIGERIAN/PAKISTANI/CHECHEN NATIONALITY) and you know that very well but...

Harry:
Or is your statement just another example of the casual racism which infests your posts? Do you think that I can never be Polish because I am not Christian enough for you?


...that gives you opportunity for another pathetic attempt to portray me as a racist and obviously an antisemit just because I can confront your agenda. And isn't It ironic that people with very low intermarriages rate and using DNA studies to check, who belong to their group think that they have some God's given right to decide If somebody is a racist or not ? Ooops... I guess I'm antisemitic again... bad me...

Harry:

Yes, obviously I hate Poland and Poles.


Unfortunately.

Harry:
My mother really couldn't give a sh!t about Poland or Poles. She never even thought about the place or the people until I moved here. But it's nice of you to insult my mother anyway


Very interesting...


"Every Pole sucks anti-Semitism with his mother's milk"

Icchak Szamir - ex PM of Israel


...too bad I haven't yet achieved sophistication of this man to insult all the mothers in the nation... sorry... in this case he was obviously only bashing bad bad racists...

Harry:

Even the Polish IPN (not normally noted for loving Jews)


And how IPN isn't "noted for loving Jews" ? Geez... Har, you are full of It...

Member
Posts: 5147
Joined: Nov 16, 06
                              
 
Harry
  May 5, 08, 16:29  #35

Grzegorz_:
No, you wouldn't be... Har, have mercy... Do you seriously think that a Nigerian or Pakistani or Chechen guy becomes Polish the day he gets Polish citizenship... ? Of course not (HE IS A POLISH CITIZEN OF NIGERIAN/PAKISTANI/CHECHEN NATIONALITY) and you know that very well but...

Well of course he won't be Polish to you. He'd be a N!gger or a Paki or a Wog. And to you N!ggers, Pakis and Wogs can never be Polish. Just as a Jew can never be Polish to you. To you I can never be Polish because you don't think I'm a white Catholic.

Alternatively, why don't you tell me what makes a person Polish? If it isn't being a resident and a citizen, what is it? Well, apart from being a white Catholic obviously.

Grzegorz_:
...that gives you opportunity for another pathetic attempt to portray me as a racist and obviously an antisemit just because I can confront your agenda. And isn't It ironic that people with very low intermarriages rate and using DNA studies to check, who belong to their group think that they have some God's given right to decide If somebody is a racist or not ? Ooops... I guess I'm antisemitic again... bad me...

Confront me with my agenda then. Alternatively just reinforce your credentials as a racist by telling me what my agenda must be based on what you think my race is. You assume that I'm Jewish and so you automatically tell me what my agenda is.

Member
Posts: 609
Joined: May 2, 07
                              
 
joepilsudski
  May 5, 08, 16:31  #36

Grzegorz_:
And isn't It ironic that people with very low intermarriages rate and using DNA studies to check, who belong to their group think that they have some God's given right to decide If somebody is a racist or not ?


Ah, yes, good point...but you see, Jews frown on intermarriage with 'goyim' unless it will help move them up the financial ladder...and they usually use their women for this, because to Orthodox Judaism, women are in the same category as slaves, oxen and 'goyim'!...now, Jews don't like Blacks either, unless they can make money off of them...the great Jewish religious scholar, Moses Maiomides, called them 'apes without tails'!

Member
Posts: 703
Joined: Apr 27, 07
                              
 
Harry
  May 5, 08, 16:39  #37

joepilsudski:
now, Jews don't like Blacks either, unless they can make money off of them...the great Jewish religious scholar, Moses Maiomides, called them 'apes without tails'!

Wow! You mean that some Jews are racist? Well that would make them like every other race of people on the planet.

Apart from Poles of course. No Poles are ever racist. Polish football fans only ever threw bananas at black football players because they were concerned that the player might need a healthy snack during the game to give him a burst of energy.

Member
Posts: 609
Joined: May 2, 07
                              
 
southern
Edited by: southern  May 5, 08, 16:39  #38

Harry:
Alternatively, why don't you tell me what makes a person Polish? If it isn't being a resident and a citizen, what is it?


High cheeks,my friend.And a large kielbasa for polish haters.

Member
Posts: 3000
Joined: May 17, 07
                              
 
Harry
  May 5, 08, 16:40  #39

southern:
High cheeks,my friend.

And the ability to play football (assuming they aren't white Catholics of course).

Member
Posts: 609
Joined: May 2, 07
                              
 
Grzegorz_
  May 5, 08, 16:58  #40

Harry:
Well of course he won't be Polish to you.


He won't be Polish to any person with a working brain.

Harry:
He'd be a N!gger or a Paki or a Wog. And to you N!ggers, Pakis and Wogs can never be Polish. Just as a Jew can never be Polish to you. To you I can never be Polish because you don't think I'm a white Catholic.


lol...

Harry:
You assume that I'm Jewish and so you automatically tell me what my agenda is.


lol...X2

Member
Posts: 5147
Joined: Nov 16, 06
                              
 
Harry
  May 6, 08, 03:29  #41

Grzegorz_:
He won't be Polish to any person with a working brain.

So you mean only racists like you have a working brain?

Good to see you still won't answer my question. Now we all know your answer. A person who has a Polish passport and Polish citizenship and is a permanent resident of Poland can to you only be Polish provided he is a white Catholic. Nice you're proving yet again that you are a bigot.

Member
Posts: 609
Joined: May 2, 07
                              
 
Matyjasz
  May 6, 08, 09:51  #42

Harry:
Apart from Poles of course. No Poles are ever racist. Polish football fans only ever threw bananas at black football players because they were concerned that the player might need a healthy snack during the game to give him a burst of energy.



Way to go Harry! What a great idea to describe one nationalities opinion of black people through the behavior of football hooligans. What next? Depicting British society’s approach to gay people through british skinhead subculture or Scandinavian opinion of Christianity through Norwegian black metal fans?

PS: My friend just applied for Irish citizenship (he spent almost all his life in Poland). Do you think once he will acquire it the Irish will consider him Irish?

Member
Posts: 1456
Joined: Jul 20, 06
                              
 
Harry
  May 6, 08, 10:16  #43

Matyjasz:
What a great idea to describe one nationalities opinion of black people through the behavior of football hooligans.

I would never try to describe the qualities of an entire nation. Doing that would be racist.

My point was showing that Poles can be racist. As some the posters here also prove.

Member
Posts: 609
Joined: May 2, 07
                              
 
Grzegorz_
  May 7, 08, 11:32  #44

Harry:

So you mean only racists like you have a working brain?


Har, spreading xenophobia and anti-Polonism through the forums and in the same time accusing others of racism, you are only making yourself look like a total ass.

Member
Posts: 5147
Joined: Nov 16, 06
                              
 
joepilsudski
Edited by: joepilsudski  May 10, 08, 16:38  #45

Harry:
Apart from Poles of course. No Poles are ever racist. Polish football fans only ever threw bananas at black football players because they were concerned that the player might need a healthy snack during the game to give him a burst of energy.


Harry, Poles are as prejudiced as anyone, and myself included...but as far as that footballer, yes, maybe the fans thought that he was hungry...also, bananas are very high in potassium, which helps an athlete retain fluids and reduces muscle cramps!

Member
Posts: 703
Joined: Apr 27, 07
                              
 
z_darius
  May 10, 08, 21:02  #46

Harry:
My point was showing that Poles can be racist.

No s.hit.
It would be more exciting to know which nationalities can't.

Member
Posts: 2228
Joined: Oct 18, 07
                              
 
Easy_Terran
Edited by: Easy_Terran  May 10, 08, 23:56  #47

z_darius:
It would be more exciting to know which nationalities can't.

lol
axactly.

Harry, my dear researcher, show me a country, ANY country that has no antisemites in its population.

Go ahead, enlighten me.

Edited 2.
And show some numbers. % Jews here, % nasty attacks here.


And skip Japan, China, Madagaskar and Antarctica.

Edited 1.
You know what? Keep those countries in yours list, too. That'd be more entertaining.


Member
Posts: 227
Joined: Mar 31, 08
                              
 
BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  May 11, 08, 03:38  #48

most people know that there are racists, antisemites and homophobes in every country.

the point about the polish is the lengths they go to to deny it. if poles on the forum held their hand up and said 'yes, poland has a problem with racism, antisemitism and homophobia' then this might go some way to reduce the animosity towards them. but of course that never occured to you. did it. then we have to conclude that some polish posters dont see any problem with being racist, antisemetic homophobes.

Member
Posts: 4903
Joined: Sep 26, 06
                              
 
scorpio
  May 11, 08, 04:07  #49

BubbaWoo:
the point about the polish is the lengths they go to to deny it.


Incorrect and untrue. The Poles don't deny it and do admit there is a minor issue in their country with racists etc. The true problem is the lengths that 'others' (media, certain ethnic/religious groups, certain people) go to show that Poland does have a problem with it, and it is way too often overblown and exaggerated. That is the problem as I see it.

Member
Posts: 80
Joined: Nov 15, 07
                              
 
Grzegorz_
  May 11, 08, 04:09  #50

BubbaWoo:
'yes, poland has a problem with racism, antisemitism and homophobia'


No, It doesn't...

Member
Posts: 5147
Joined: Nov 16, 06
                              
 
BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  May 11, 08, 04:21  #51

yes it does. youre a prime example. check yourself before you wreck yourself dude

scorpio:
The Poles don't deny it


Grzegorz_:
No, It doesn't...


youre too funny mate

Member
Posts: 4903
Joined: Sep 26, 06
                              
 
Matyjasz
  May 11, 08, 04:31  #52

BubbaWoo:
the point about the polish is the lengths they go to to deny it. if poles on the forum held their hand up and said 'yes, poland has a problem with racism, antisemitism and homophobia' then this might go some way to reduce the animosity towards them. but of course that never occured to you. did it. then we have to conclude that some polish posters dont see any problem with being racist, antisemetic homophobes.


There is a subtle difference between arguing with a statement that Poland is a racist, homophobic and anti-semitic country and saying that Poland is absolutely free from those awful attitudes.

I hope that those most people you are talking about see this difference.

Member
Posts: 1456
Joined: Jul 20, 06
                              
 
BubbaWoo
  May 11, 08, 04:34  #53

so do i maty, but i see no indication from some that they do

Member
Posts: 4903
Joined: Sep 26, 06
                              
 
Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  May 11, 08, 04:40  #54

BubbaWoo:
youre too funny mate


If you claim that Poland has a problem with racism, antisemitism and homophobia then prove It. Show the facts. The number of attacks on Jews, Blacks, homos etc. compared to other countries. Is there more of them ? No ? So you are only spreading Polonophobic garbage.

Member
Posts: 5147
Joined: Nov 16, 06
                              
 
BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  May 11, 08, 04:45  #55

and once again it all goes woosh over your head G, doesnt it

this is why people take the p!ss out of you. constantly

Member
Posts: 4903
Joined: Sep 26, 06
                              
 
Grzegorz_
  May 11, 08, 04:47  #56

You are posting crap and can't prove It. That doesn't have anything to do with my head.

Member
Posts: 5147
Joined: Nov 16, 06
                              
 
BubbaWoo
  May 11, 08, 04:51  #57

G my little friend. your head is stuck so far up your racist, antisemetic homophobic polish arse that you are unable to see the wood for the trees.

Member
Posts: 4903
Joined: Sep 26, 06
                              
 
BubbaWoo
  May 11, 08, 05:11  #58

and so are you.

the difference being that i have no problem acknowledging my racist tendencies and take active steps to confront them

where as you live in denial

Member
Posts: 4903
Joined: Sep 26, 06
                              
 
scorpio
  May 11, 08, 07:42  #59

Harry & BubbaWoo,

You seem to never quantify the number of Poles you are referring to as 'racist, anti-xxx, etc'. Instead, you have the tendency to say "Poles" or "Poland", indicating, you are accusing an entire country, and all Poles worldwide. That is a problem you have. Learn not to stereotype, generalize, accuse in the aggregrate, and slander. Read up on your history and current affairs as well, using objective sources. It will make you a more educated individual. Obviously, you both have an inbred hatred of Poles and Poland and a twisted agenda to distort the true facts.

Member
Posts: 80
Joined: Nov 15, 07
                              
 
dtaylor
  May 11, 08, 07:50  #60

scorpio:
a twisted agenda to distort the true facts.


You could also say that the history taught in Polish schools has more of a political agenda than a factual agenda.

Member
Posts: 869
Joined: Sep 15, 07
                              
 
  «« 1 [2] 3  »» Similar Threads¦Latest Discussions Go UPtop of page

Home / Polish Politics & History /


Only registered and logged-in users may post here. Please login or register.

Newer thread in this forum: Older thread in this forum:
Israeli youths misbehave in Poland ceremony score An Example of Falsifying Historical Facts and Degrading Poland


104 users online in the last hour [Guests - 56 / Members - 48] All times are CST (GMT -6)

Home . Latest Discussions . Unanswered Posts . Statistics
© 2005-08 PolishForums.com | About Us | Contact Us | Privacy, TOS, Rules | Poland Advertising | Support PF