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Most English are xenophobic towards the Polish


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isthatu
Edited by: isthatu  Sep 22, 07, 08:28  #31

yes it does, place of birth or fathers nationality are automatic entitelments to British citizenship. anyway my point was against the subtle ish rascisim implied by calling non white british people pseaudo brits,we faught hard in this country to get rid of those ignorent attitudes ,we dont need forigners bringing them back. Just as I cant be doing with being lectured by some muslim about britain I wont sit back while the less attractive nature of eastern europe is exported here. Ive known some very inteligent and liberal Poles whose attitudes to Black and Asian people have made them sound like red necks from 1960s Alabama,of course I know others who dont share the borat attitude but....


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phartpants [Guest]
  Sep 22, 07, 08:34  #32

Quoting: Puzzler
re: briitsh babies born to polish parents

- And what do you mean by that?


Self-explanatory

Quoting: Lonman
Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all.


Most Americans also claim to be something else

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Grzegorz_
  Sep 22, 07, 08:45  #33

Quoting: isthatu
but....


But what ?


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Michal
  Sep 22, 07, 13:19  #34

Quoting: kochanie
gain for the stress they are getting and try and explain that not all English are like that (I'm English and I've never acted like that towards someone), but why is it that English are xenophobic? They are towards Welsh and they're next door!! x

The truth is that many English find the Polish xenophobic. The Poles only talk Polish among themselves and go to church on a Sunday to listen to a service all of course, in Polish! They have chosen to come to this country. Did they not know that they would have to 'go that extra mile' to fit in with us? The Poles walk around Tescos talking in Polish and when they push in to us by mistake they do not even try to say 'sorry' because they lack the education to even try a few simple words of English. Only younger Polish women will marry older English men because they know that they are going to be showered with gifts and a nice house because older men have had time to earn and save a lot of money, otherwise they make no attempt themselves at intergration.

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Puzzler
  Sep 22, 07, 15:56  #35

re: Te tru is tat may Elishfin the Posh xepobic ... to ft in with us ...

- Oink, oink! The piggy-pretending-to-be-an-Englishman doesn't even respect the Sabbath, as piggies do.

... And now the Orwellian piggy is playing an expert on the manners and culture of the Poles in the UK (in the vicinity of Tesco)....

What's the UK, what's the world has come to - an alien porker is preaching about good manners and culture!
:)

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island1
  Sep 22, 07, 18:30  #36

Quoting: Puzzler
re: Te tru is tat may Elishfin the Posh xepobic ... to ft in with us ...


What the…?

Is there some way to refer this guy to a competent medical professional?

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Puzzler
  Sep 22, 07, 18:33  #37

re: Is there some way to refer this guy to a competent medical professional?

- Do you mean moi, island1? If yes, then why?

Or perhaps you mean the piggy? Nah, you don't, do you?

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isthatu
  Sep 23, 07, 09:12  #38

Quoting: Grzegorz_
But what ?

but the silent majority never stand out in a crowd where as gobby biggots do....


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osiol
  Sep 23, 07, 09:33  #39

Quoting: isthatu
but the silent majority never stand out in a crowd

That's why, if you want an opinion, you don't look at a crowd.


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kochanie
  Sep 23, 07, 14:34  #40

Quoting: Puzzler
Thank you for your honesty, kochanie.


you're very welcome!(I hope that wasn't sarcastic, Puzzler. It's hard to tell on the computer) it's just something I feel strongly about, especially with being quite young (17) and having to go into my 20's and 30's with this view of the English and being English myself...it annoys me that this is how we are seen by the world. We live in a great country, so why can't the citizens be seen as great? This is the question x

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Hmmm
  Sep 23, 07, 14:37  #41

I heard someone say, "Opinions are like arse-holes. Everyone's got one." So the bigger the opinion, the...


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Hmmm
  Sep 23, 07, 14:42  #42

In the battle against opinions and convictions, conviction wins every time. You form your opinions, but you shape your convictions. Shaping takes a lot more time, effort and sacrifice. And ultimately, they'll last longer and will be a source of strength to your character. Opinions change, convictions change you.


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christina
  Sep 23, 07, 14:57  #43

at first when Poland joined the EU and a lot came into ireland I heard some smart remarks from people. Now some three years later its easier to find a job here if your Polish, they are considered to be hard workers and people are beginning to admire them for that here in Ireland. In fact I work with three poles in a government office.

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Michal
Edited by: Michal  Sep 23, 07, 15:53  #44

Quoting: christina
n fact I work with three poles in a government office.

What I can never understand is why is there such high levels of unemployment and people must claim benefits when thousands of Poles are allowed in to steal these jobs? It seems idiotic to me, I wonder if the Poles would give me a nice little office job and earner in Poland?

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Grzegorz_
  Sep 23, 07, 16:00  #45

Quoting: Michal
I wonder if the Poles would give me a nice little office job and earner in Poland?


Rather not. Retards aren't in high demand.


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Hmmm
  Sep 23, 07, 16:07  #46

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Rather not. Retards aren't in high demand.


Ah G! You've got a scathing tongue today. Judging from your avtar, your bite could be far worse for sure. But you're comebacks are funny. :)


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Grzegorz_
  Sep 23, 07, 16:09  #47

Quoting: Hmmm
Judging from your avtar, your bite could be far worse for sure.


Yes...


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Puzzler
  Sep 23, 07, 18:09  #48

re: What I can nver under is unploy and pele must claim fits when sands of Poe are all owed to steal thee jo

- Here it trots and squeals again - the alien oinker-pretending-to-be-English. This time it's playing an expert on the unemployment situation in Ireland (?), UK (?). This oinker squeals and froths at its manure-smeared snout so much. Is it because it's rabid or impotent? Or perhaps both?
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Michal
  Sep 24, 07, 03:46  #49

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Retards aren't in high demand.

It seems to me that the Poles themselves are not in high demand which means that there must millions of retards in Poland who are prepared to travel a thousand miles to sweep the streets in Brixton, South London!

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Michal
  Sep 24, 07, 03:52  #50

Quoting: Hmmm
comebacks are funny. :)

Not rteally funny because in years to come in England there may be a real backlash because the British are getting sick and tired of having to compete with 'new arrivals' for jobs. Nobody has an automatic right to a life or job anywhere, that much I agree to, but I have worked hard for over twenty years with my present employer who has looked after me and I want to build a strong economic environment for the next generation including possibly my own children in less that ten years from now, be it in my place of work or soewhere else. The fact that you find him funny just goes to show what a dim wit you are yourself and a bezmozgowiec if you find the Dog, Grzegorz funny. Anyway, why should I complain I am just cartoonsh after all, to me it nice! You can see the low education of most forum members who make these remarks in the first place. Maybe after two years National Service it may help them a little!

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CaringCarla
  Sep 24, 07, 04:45  #51

Quoting: Michal
Michal


being so unpopular on the forum, must make you feel very isolated Michal.

I imagine it reminds you of your school days when the other children didn't want to play with you

Were you envious because they had bigger and better toys than you?


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Michal
  Sep 24, 07, 05:23  #52

Quoting: CaringCarla
Were you envious because they had bigger and better toys than you?

The only people who need toys are those on this forum who do not have anything better to do with their boring lives than write rubbish. Wystarczy teraz?

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CaringCarla
  Sep 24, 07, 05:38  #53

Quoting: Michal
The only people who need toys are those on this forum who do not have anything better to do with their boring lives than write rubbish


You’re being very hard on yourself Michal.

The rubbish you write isn’t always that bad.

Have you tried assertiveness training?


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truebrit
Edited by: truebrit  Sep 24, 07, 06:02  #54

In response to the original post 'Most English are xenophobic towards the Poles' the answer is that no this is not true.A minority (10-20%) might be to a lesser of greater extent and these tend to be the louder negative people who like to make their voices heard.If things were so bad the Poles would have stopped coming to Britain.

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Kilkline
  Sep 24, 07, 06:09  #55

Theres a minority of Xenophobic Brits and a minority of whinging Poles. Each one feeds off the other as illustrated by the repetitive nature of the threads on this board.


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Michal
Edited by: Michal  Sep 24, 07, 07:17  #56

Quoting: truebrit
their voices heard.If things were so bad the Poles would have stopped coming to Britain.

Yes, I agree and in fact we are waiting for the next influx of Romanians and Bulgarians. I do not seriously believe that on the whole the British are really racist, in fact I found the Poles and the Russians, in their own way to be more nationalistic than the British. However, this is a two tier problem. Westminster passes laws that then come in to effect and the people at the bottom, the working class, are left to pick up the pieces. After all, this is what happened in the First World War when the British were fearful of German expansion and them stealing 'our colonies' and the whole working class was slaughtered in the trenches for the benefit of capitalism and the middle class and this happens in England in each generation. The Poles will work under new contracts of £5.50 an hour no sick pay, no pension, casual labour being phones when required. All this money can be taken back to Poland where it has considerable spending power but as for the future of the working class in England left behind? We bought out house six years ago for £150,000. I had estate agents from Mann and company this morning who say they would like to market my house for £365,000. Where is a working person today going to get that money especially if he has to compete with millions of east Europeans who will work in McDonalds for pea-nuts? I hope that by boy leaves school trains as a plumber or something similar and gets the hell out of the U.K. all together and sets himself up in Australia!

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Michal
  Sep 24, 07, 07:22  #57

Quoting: CaringCarla
Have you tried assertiveness training?

That sounds a good idea. What would I need to do for that?

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Outspoken
  Sep 24, 07, 07:25  #58

Quoting: kochanie
Is it just me or does it seem that most English are completely xenophobic towards the Polish? I find it so embarrassing that my Polish friends have to endure constant bad mouthing from the English!

Kochanie,
Can you give us some examples of what you're talking about, please.
What is this "Constant bad-mouthing", I've not seen or heard it.


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Michal
  Sep 24, 07, 07:30  #59

Maybe in some areas of England, especially where there is a high level of unemployment but I have seen almost no sign of it here where I live.

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kochanie
  Sep 24, 07, 10:18  #60

Quoting: truebrit
In response to the original post 'Most English are xenophobic towards the Poles' the answer is that no this is not true.A minority (10-20%) might be to a lesser of greater extent and these tend to be the louder negative people who like to make their voices heard.If things were so bad the Poles would have stopped coming to Britain.


sorry for the confusion, that wasn't what I actually posted! I put the topic as 'xenophobia' and it was changed by the moderators. I wasn't trying to say that all english are xenophobic, I was trying to say that is how we are viewed by the people coming here becuase the minority you referred to seem to represent us. sorry again x

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