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Most English are xenophobic towards the Polish


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Yogibear
  Nov 16, 07, 08:23  #391

Quoting: kochanie


I'm from Chester..only about 35 minutes away hehe! It's a whole other world it would seem.




Stay there ya' Wool. ;-)


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kochanie
  Nov 16, 07, 12:41  #392

I've heard wool before but I'm not sure what it means! My nedder friend always says "ya wool"...give me a clue please? lol

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Grzegorz_
  Jan 16, 08, 13:46  #393

Thread attached on merging:
Why so many British are xenophobic... (BW day 4)

Why so many British are xenophobic, especially Polonophobic ? Is that because we are better educated, have better work ethic and look better ? Is this a matter of inferiority complex ? Comments please.


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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Jan 16, 08, 13:47  #394

ha, ha, ha,,,,,,,yawn G:)
most British I have met here and they are great and interesting people.

They also have great talent for arguments since English is their first language, so what is your point?


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Grzegorz_
  Jan 16, 08, 13:48  #395

What ?


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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Jan 16, 08, 13:54  #396

Grzegorz_ wrote:
look better

not really, just came back from Poland and there were just regular looking people
Grzegorz_ wrote:
have better work ethic

I would argue with that - how can you really compare that anyways - have you ever seen British working?
Grzegorz_ wrote:
xenophobic

you are the most Xenophobic person I have met so far, or maybe my Polish friend - Pani Wiesia who is equally xenophobic which makes her life hell, because she doesn't enjoy it anymore and has to stirr out of any contacts with other than Polish people which is impossible in Canada.
He, he....


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osiol
  Jan 16, 08, 13:54  #397

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Why so many British are xenophobic, especially Polonophobic

How many? You say so many, but I can't see how far apart your hands (or paws) are or what kind of number you are looking at.

I do see xenophobia and racism in this country, but on a day to day basis - at work, going shopping, in the pub, visiting family, I see next to none of this. Especially polonophobia. I'd say you're more likely to find indifference or even admiration for the Polish work ethic (real or imaginary).


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Grzegorz_
  Jan 16, 08, 13:58  #398

osiol wrote:
How many?


Do you seriously expect me to count them ?

miranda wrote:

you are the most Xenophobic person I have met so far


Yawn.


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miranda
  Jan 16, 08, 14:00  #399

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Yawn.

yeh, it is not true then? Perhaps you just luck the tolerance gene. Life must be miserable for you;)


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Grzegorz_
  Jan 16, 08, 14:01  #400

miranda wrote:
Life must be miserable for you;)


Not at all.


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osiol
  Jan 16, 08, 14:01  #401

Grzegorz, are you quite a simple person/dog? I only ask this because I wonder if you believe the opinions given on an internet forum are representative of a population? No-body else in my street, in my neighbourhood, even my town have ever posted on this forum. Neither have any of my workmates, friends or family. How can you tell what their opinions are when they have never presented them to you?

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Do you seriously expect me to count them ?

No, but you have a perception of how much polonophobia there is here.


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Seanus
  Jan 16, 08, 14:12  #402

Polonophobia is not on the scale that he envisages. My Polish friends feel safe in Scotland and there has hardly been a flare up between our 2 countries on a large scale. He had to expect that some people would react to challenges to their jobs, that much is reasonable. Incitement seems to be his ploy. If u look for enemies, u will find them but the warmth of our govt and people should be congratulated by Greg. We are happy for Poles to form their own communities and be active in churches. I know I am a guest here in Poland as I'm sure Poles know likewise in Scotland. Live and let live Greg and drop this inferiority nonsense


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plk123
Edited by: plk123  Jan 16, 08, 14:14  #403

yawn is definitely the word for this xenophobic thread, 4 sure. i think you have quite the paranoia there greg.


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osiol
  Jan 16, 08, 14:34  #404

Seanus wrote:
drop this inferiority nonsense

He must have more - Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Then...

F O R O
P O L A C O
V A
A
M É X I C O
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  Jan 16, 08, 14:41  #405

Seanus wrote:
but the warmth of our govt and people should be congratulated by Greg.


Looks like you aren't ready for a serious discussion.

plk123 wrote:
yawn is definitely the word for this xenophobic thread


How is this xenophobic ? I'm only asking.

osiol wrote:
He must have more


Tommorow will be something nicer...


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osiol
  Jan 16, 08, 14:59  #406

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Comments please

Your replies to our comments could be more helpful.
Got anything to say about any of the points I made in post # 9?
Got any mariachi music ready yet?


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Grzegorz_
  Jan 16, 08, 15:03  #407

osiol wrote:
No, but you have a perception of how much polonophobia there is here.


Sure Polonophobia is a problem in the UK. Look for example how much crap there is about "Poles living on benefits" in the British media. There are groups of immigrants in the UK where most (!) of people don't work and what ? Nothing.


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isthatu
  Jan 16, 08, 15:12  #408

Grzegorz_ wrote:
"Poles living on benefits"

Never seen one example of this,not one. Post a link,if it exists it will be for some rag .


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Doba
  Jan 16, 08, 15:15  #409

another British topic wow great


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polishgirltx [Guest]
  Jan 16, 08, 15:19  #410

Doba wrote:
another British topic

yep....it looks like doggy is having a bad week...

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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  Jan 16, 08, 15:21  #411

isthatu wrote:
Never seen one example


You've got to be kidding me.

isthatu wrote:
Post a link,if it exists it will be for some rag .


Sure... Newspapers written by millions are rags... British are innocent like always... yawn.

polishgirltx wrote:
yep....it looks like doggy is having a bad week...


Not really. I decided to open a British week on the PF, so British people get a chance to tell us more about themselves.


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osiol
  Jan 16, 08, 15:22  #412

Grzegorz_ wrote:
the British media

I don't describe the Daily (Hate) Mail, the News of the (Narrow-Minded) World, the Daily Torygraph and so on, as a reliable way of gauging public opinion. They have their own agendas, and the media works by finding or inventing a problem before banging on about it. Maybe it's because I don't read the papers that I'm unaware of the opinions of everyone around me.

Grzegorz_ wrote:
There are groups of immigrants in the UK where most (!) of people don't work

There are still, I believe, rules against those in the process of claiming political asylum in the UK from working. Idiots confuse this with laziness.

Unemployment occurs in pockets - areas of higher unemployment tend to be the poorer areas where work has dried up and disappeared, especially working-class jobs. Those on higher salaries with better qualifications and/or experience are the ones who had the ability to get out. Those working at the bottom are more likely to have been immigrants or descendents of recent immigrants. This can make it look as though it is ethnic or cultural groups who shirk their work-responsibility.

Grzegorz_ wrote:
and what ? Nothing.

That is not true. People living on state benefits, whatever their background, are criticised (even vilified) by the media. There are times when even the British media steers away from classifying these people by ethnicity.

So, to sum up my points and throw in another question for you:
Yes, there is a kind of polonophobia, which does extend to a phobia of workers / immigrants from other 'eastern-bloc' countries. Poland and Polish people just happen to be the most visible.
No, I don't believe it is as big a thing in the minds of British people as you think.

You seem to be basing your opinions on the media. Newspapers, Radio, TV, this forum.
How much do you believe what you call 'the media' says?


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Grzegorz_
  Jan 16, 08, 15:24  #413

osiol wrote:
I don't describe the Daily (Hate) Mail, the News of the (Narrow-Minded) World, the Daily Torygraph and so on, as a reliable way of gauging public opinion.


Yep. Millions buy them because they make good toilet paper...


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osiol
  Jan 16, 08, 15:29  #414

Grzegorz_ wrote:
British people get a chance to tell us more about themselves

Don't I talk enough already?

Grzegorz_ wrote:
British are innocent like always... yawn

I'm sure no-one is making the claim that we are all innocent.
I'm going to make myself yawn in a minute - I'm repeating repeating repeating myself myself.
I had better dig out that 'Los Tigres Del Norte' CD to wake myself up a bit.


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BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  Jan 16, 08, 15:41  #415

i think we are percieved as polophobic because so many poles have inferiority complexes in addition to the fact that half of poland decamped to the uk in 2 years which is enough to send shivers down most peoples spines...

as for being better looking that goes without saying - have you seen the state of most polish men... yikes

Grzegorz_ wrote:
British are innocent like always


its not that we're innocent, its just that we have plenty experience of putting up with immigrants bollocks - its nothing new to us, the poles are just the latest bunch of bloody foreigners to come and ponce off blighty

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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  Jan 16, 08, 16:25  #416

BubbaWoo wrote:
because so many poles have inferiority complexes


I don't now... maybe... yours on day 1 admitted that you have superiority complex...


Superiority complex refers to a subconscious neurotic mechanism of compensation developed by the individual as a result of feelings of inferiority. The feelings of inferiority in this specific complex are often brought on by social rejection, possibly as a result of the individual's inattentiveness to hygiene, perceived ugliness, or lower intelligence as compared to others.



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isthatu
  Jan 16, 08, 16:32  #417

Grzegorz_ wrote:
isthatu wrote:
Never seen one example


You've got to be kidding me.

No,I obviously dont read the crap you must do.
Grzegorz_ wrote:
isthatu wrote:
Post a link,if it exists it will be for some rag .


Sure... Newspapers written by millions are rags...

Millions of newspapers,are you sure? still,post a link and prove it.
Grzegorz_ wrote:
British are innocent like always... yawn.

and your not at all paranoid or delusional or suffering a huge inferiority complex.yawn..
Grzegorz_ wrote:
Millions buy them because they make good toilet paper...

Nope,unlike everyone east of the elbe we in britain know not to use newspaper for toilet rolls.


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osiol
  Jan 16, 08, 16:36  #418

isthatu wrote:
in britain know not to use newspaper for toilet rolls

I did try using a corner torn off a copy of The Sun as a cigarette paper once.
It was disgusting!

No, it hadn't already been used for the other thing...
... wrapping fish & chips.

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BubbaWoo
Edited by: BubbaWoo  Jan 16, 08, 16:36  #419

Grzegorz_ wrote:
yours on day 1 admitted that you have superiority complex...


as ive said on a number of occasions, i dont have a superiority complex, im just better

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southern
Edited by: southern  Jan 16, 08, 16:39  #420

When I first came to Poland I noticed this servant mentality.Actually maybe this concept endagers the West that since there is a servant there has to be a master as well.

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