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kochanie
Edited by: kochanie  Sep 24, 07, 10:26  #61

Quoting: Outspoken
Quoting: kochanie
Is it just me or does it seem that most English are completely xenophobic towards the Polish? I find it so embarrassing that my Polish friends have to endure constant bad mouthing from the English!

Kochanie,
Can you give us some examples of what you're talking about, please.
What is this "Constant bad-mouthing", I've not seen or heard it.


Certainly. My friends have recently bought a house in what they thought was a nice street with what they thought were nice neighbours. Wrong. The guy living next door to them complains because both their cars have been parked in front of his house (need I say that it is a civil liberty to park in your own street). Instead of speaking to them about it, he put a sign on his gate saying 'DO NOT PARK HERE' in Polish. Polish!! Who else in the street will understand that?! This is like saying 'any English people can park in front of my house, NOT you though'. He has also said to his wife as my friend got out of her car 'That's that bloody Polish bint' my friend says 'Yes, I am Polish actually' to which he replied 'Oh, so you can speak English then' which has really upset her, she's not a bad person. She has a house she likes and works a job she hates to pay for it, she's just like us. That's just one example, I'm sure that we could all think of more. And it isn't just towards the Poles, we will treat any bugger like this. It's not on. I know this doesn't sound like much, but when it's a drop in the bucket and you're facing this prejudice everyday and everywhere it all builds up. The thing is that this could be completely avoided, there is no need to treat people this way x

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Puzzler
  Sep 24, 07, 11:09  #62

What a great honest lady you are, kochanie. Well, the xenophobes like the one you mention can rejoice: lots of Poles are leaving UK now. Those who stay are forced to do so, and they aren't really happy to be here any more. They will leave eventually too, as soon as they can. They will make room for more Africans and others of that ilk. I bet the media psychopaths will keep quiet about those folks and local xenophobes won't dare to harass them as they harass the Poles.

Poor UK.

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Outspoken
  Sep 24, 07, 11:31  #63

Quoting: kochanie
My friends have recently bought a house in what they thought was a nice street with what they thought were nice neighbours

Living in a "Nice street" means that people respect each others' parking areas, an important issue.

Quoting: kochanie
because both their cars have been parked in front of his house

I would also complain about this.

Quoting: kochanie
it is a civil liberty to park in your own street

No, you are wrong. This is a complicated issue, but you are basically wrong.

Quoting: kochanie
'DO NOT PARK HERE' in Polish

Maybe he thought they couldn't speak English?

Quoting: kochanie
'Oh, so you can speak English then'

I rest my case.

Quoting: kochanie
she's not a bad person

I'm sure she's not, but English house and parking law, written and unwritten are to be observed.

I see this being normal English behaviour towards inconsiderate parking, anyway where is the "Constant bad-mouthing" ? this is one example of bad manners by both parties.


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kochanie
Edited by: kochanie  Sep 24, 07, 11:53  #64

The council or police genuinely can't do anything about parking in a street because there is no law to say you have to park in front of your own house. Believe me. If you block someone's driveway then fair enough, you're in the wrong. But she has been shouted at by one neighbour for parking at the back, another for the front...what is she supposed to do? I think that we can all empathise with the situation.

As for the bad mouthing..just step outside your door!!! Find someone on the dole!!! I promise you that at least 1 out of 3 will blame 'immigrants' (I hate that word) because they haven't got a job. What's the truth?? They are unemployed through no fault of others, having a job is your own responsibility, right? I think that we forget that we begged people to come into the country to rebuild the work force after the wars. Also, I bet that a lot of these people want to retire and live in Spain or somewhere when they are older. My nan is a great example of this. She has always been slagging off other cultures and people coming to Britain and she has is having a house built in Spain, she'll be moving there next summer. She can't wait. Hypocrisy? I think so x

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kochanie
  Sep 24, 07, 11:54  #65

Quoting: Puzzler
What a great honest lady you are, kochanie.


I hope this is not sarcasm :) x

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BubbaWoo
  Sep 24, 07, 11:56  #66

Quoting: kochanie
what is she supposed to do?


sorry... whats the reason she cant park outside her own house...?

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Outspoken
  Sep 24, 07, 12:01  #67

Quoting: kochanie
No, you're wrong about parking

No I'm not.
It very much depends on the neighbourhood as far as the allocation of spaces is determined.
Different areas have different guidelines on this: West London, where I'm from, has a 'Free for all' mentality where it is very much 'first come first served', however, quiet surburban areas have a mutual understanding respecting the homeowner's immediate parking spaces.
I would need to know more information about this to say who is culpable in this particular case.


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kochanie
  Sep 24, 07, 12:03  #68

Quoting: BubbaWoo
Quoting: kochanie
what is she supposed to do?


sorry... whats the reason she cant park outside her own house...?


It's a one way street. There is a place for 'designated parking' on the other side of the street. There is a car park at the back, but,as I said, a neighbour has complained about them parking there.

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Puzzler
  Sep 24, 07, 12:07  #69

Quoting: kochanie
I hope this is not sarcasm :) x


- Absolutely not! I sincerely regard you as a good-hearted honest person.

Thank you for your honesty and compassion, darling.

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kochanie
  Sep 24, 07, 12:09  #70

Quoting: Puzzler
Quoting: kochanie
I hope this is not sarcasm :) x


- Absolutely not! I sincerely regard you as a good-hearted honest person.


if only everyone did! x

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BubbaWoo
  Sep 24, 07, 12:11  #71

if parking is restricted, as it appears to be, people will naturally become possessive of what they perceive as their parking place - new-comers to the area might well be at the bottom of the list when it comes to who gets to park where

my english place is in an area with a high number of students - i get really p*ssed off, as do the rest of the longer-term residents on the block, when they turn up for their 9 months park their cars outside our houses forcing us to park further afield

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espana
  Sep 24, 07, 12:20  #72

Quoting: BubbaWoo
english place

my wife it get pissed off if somebody park in her place, no matter where they are from. it has to be an english thing then!


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szarlotka
  Sep 24, 07, 12:23  #73

Parking in England is a pain and always causes disputes. Still, look on the bright side - we haven't adopted the Parisian bash bash make a little bit of room style of parking yet.


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CaringCarla
  Sep 24, 07, 12:31  #74

Quoting: Michal
Have you tried assertiveness training?

That sounds a good idea. What would I need to do for that?


You could ask your CPN for a list of therapists specialising in this field, however the fees are not cheap.

Alternatively, you could try a little self help.

The next time you come across some of those rough Polish manual labourers, using bad language in the street. Confront them, tell them you will not tolerate such behaviour, this will boost your self esteem no end

I believe Superdrug do a very reasonable pocket sized first aid kit, this may be useful if you choose the cheaper option :)


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kochanie
  Sep 24, 07, 13:04  #75

Quoting: szarlotka
Still, look on the bright side - we haven't adopted the Parisian bash bash make a little bit of room style of parking yet.


lol. It's probably only a matter of time! x

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Puzzler
  Sep 24, 07, 13:10  #76

Quoting: CaringCarla
You could ask your CPN for a list of therapists specialising in this field


- An excellent advice Carla (provided the advised is a human being and can understand what you mean).
:)

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Outspoken
  Sep 24, 07, 13:14  #77

Quoting: Puzzler
An excellent advice Carla (provided the advised is a human being and can understand what you mean).
:)

Yes, Carla, what do you mean?


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espana
Edited by: espana  Sep 24, 07, 13:16  #78

my advice is prescribe michal a small dose of haloperidol possibly 1.5mg twice daily combined some sessions of cognitive behavioural therapy


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Outspoken
  Sep 24, 07, 13:19  #79

Quoting: espana
my advice is prescribe michal a small dose of haloperidol possibly 1.5mg twice daily combined some sessions of cognitive behavioural therapy

??
Am I on some medical student forum?


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kochanie
  Sep 24, 07, 13:20  #80

relax! are you always wound so tight? x

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szkotja2007
  Sep 24, 07, 13:21  #81

Quoting: espana
haloperidol possibly 1.5mg twice daily

Have you considered neuromalignancy or are you assuming he is not psychotropically naive?


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Outspoken
  Sep 24, 07, 13:23  #82

Quoting: kochanie
relax! are you always wound so tight? x

Just confused

Quoting: szkotja2007
Have you considered neuromalignancy or are you assuming he is not psychotropically naive?

That's it, I'm off


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szkotja2007
  Sep 24, 07, 13:25  #83

Quoting: szkotja2007

Have you considered neuromalignancy or are you assuming he is not psychotropically naive?

FFS - Somebody report me please !


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kochanie
  Sep 24, 07, 13:31  #84

I will when I understand what neuromalignancy is or psychotropically. neuro..anything to do with the brain I think. I wasn't much good at biology! x

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espana
  Sep 24, 07, 13:39  #85

Quoting: kochanie
anything to do with the brain

we are trying to found out what is going on with oink oink michal's brain!! Any donations towards the cost of a CT and MRI scan are very welcome.


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kochanie
  Sep 24, 07, 13:41  #86

Ok. I will send money as soon as I can! x

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Outspoken
  Sep 24, 07, 13:44  #87

Quoting: kochanie
I can! x

Please! no more!


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kochanie
  Sep 24, 07, 13:45  #88

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx lots more!!!!!!!

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szarlotka
Edited by: szarlotka  Sep 24, 07, 15:59  #89



"Gosh, there's some bloody nice blokes posting here, don't you think?"

"Shut up Tim"


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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Sep 24, 07, 21:42  #90

Quoting: Outspoken
Yes, Carla, what do you mean?


- Outspoken, when you stay here a little longer, you'll know the context. - There's an Orwellian piggy, having been given birth to at some commie pigsty in Poland but pretending to be a Polonophobic Englishman and thinking itself an expert on subjects relating to Poland and Poles. In spite of being strongly disapproved of by many, it trots back and keeps on playing its role over and over again, with a truly piggish adamance.

The (humanitarian) advice Carla has given it is actually very funny.
:)

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