Most English are xenophobic towards the Polish

Is it just me or does it seem that most English are completely xenophobic towards the Polish? I find it so embarrassing that my Polish friends have to endure constant bad mouthing from the English! I have had to apologise time and time again for the stress they are getting and try and explain that not all English are like that (I'm English and I've never acted like that towards someone), but why is it that English are xenophobic? They are towards Welsh and they're next door!! x

generalisations and steriotypes, from all walks of life and its just something we have to live with.

And the worst part is.
Those of us Who DO Like them.
Suffer too.
We Have to put up with abuse from the bad mouthers too.
And the people who think bc we are english we hate everyone..

Like Football Hooligans.
Not all football fans feel the need to cripple someone after every game.
We can just hope they see sense.
And try to reasure the Polish that not everyone is an A-hole

i'm not quiet sure its total xenophobia i think it's more ignorance and media following if i rememeber correctly the media last year attacked poles so in that same time people i noticed in my work and social friends joined the bandwagon. but saying that alot of english have been tolarent ,im not sure other countries would have execpted near 2 million people of any race entering there country.i spoke to one of my polish friends and they totaly agree if it was us entering poland in these numbers we could expect the same treatment or worse.

The same can be said for the many Europeans who hate or have a strong dislike of Americans;)

I think this is an important point. England has long had a reputation for tolerance to new immigrants. I'm not saying that they were not subject to forms of racism or that previous waves of immigrants had a completely smooth ride but largely we are a tolerant nation towards controlled immigration. This time it was the speed of arrivals from the new EU states that was different. In many communities it was a shock. Add to that the true xenophobia spouted by sections of our media then things have proved difficult for some. For my own part I am on record for welcoming our new arrivals from Europe. I had the benefit of having worked in many countries in Eastern and Central Europe and knew the qualities they would bring. Integration will happen given time and efforts on both sides.

I think it's worth noting that most xenophobia is created in this way.

Most, in this context, is a strong word.
There hasn't been an official poll on the subject of Poles.

the thing is that we begged people of any creed to come into the country to replenish the work force after both wars. Now that we have people emigrating and wanting to do these jobs and make a better life for themselves, we attack them and behave so disgustingly towards them. It makes me uncomfortable to hear it because Polish (amongst other people coming into the country) will probably begin to believe that all English are the same, when there are people who don't care where you come from. It is so big a problem that people actively seek others out to victimise them, hence the people we get on here saying "I HATE THE POLISH AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM". Infuriating.

These people are amongst the minority, they don't usually register, spew their hatred then go again.

If they were amongst the majority, they wouldn't feel the need to post anonymously on a forum to vent their bigoted views

At present, in Britain, not just some of the native Brits have a xenophobic attitude towards the Poles (largely as a result of media brainwashing, I believe), but also scores of pseudo-Brits - folks of Asiatic, Aftrican, etc. extraction. By slamming the Poles and depicting favourably those thirdworlders, the media in UK, including BBC, seem to convey the message that the thirdworlders are accepted and the Poles aren't. The exclusion of the Poles is taken by the thirdworlders as the inclusion of them, so they mob up with the native xenophobes with gusto. I know countless cases of Polonophobic insults and abuses on the part of pseudo-Brits from places like Bangladesh, India, Philippines, Zimbabwe, Syria, and the like.

Thank you for your honesty, kochanie.

Kill'em.

I love his killer lines lol

Maybe it is partly the fault of the Poles too. They do not integrate very well and are very clicky. They only go around in small groups and talk to each other in Polish-that is not the same thing as integration. Also, an expanded Europe taking in former Eastern European countries is not what the British people were asked to vote on in Britain's ascension to the European Union as it was then in the 1970's. I have nothing against the Poles themselves but they are very boring and talk about nothing else but themselves. I met a new Pole art work today who spoke almost no English whatsoever and in the end I had to admit to knowing Polish to start the conversation off! He talked about where he lived and the post code of his address, where his wife works at night and so on and so on, his English Language studies twice a week. Riveting stuff! I just made an excuse and left the work area in a hurry!

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- Oink, oink! Here it comes again - the kosher piggy pretending-to-be-an-Englishman. And now it's playing an expert on Britain's joining the EU in the seventies, and on an nonexistent Polish guest worker's English language skills too! What other manure stuff will yet grow under its pig skull and get spilled on this forum?
:)

If you were born here,no matter what your ethnic origin you are British,lets have non of this pseudo british nonsense,going on like that makes you sound jealous for some reason,and a little xenophobic yourself.

Alert the Tate.

"We've got a fellow here called art he's painting poles."
"Which ones?"
"The ones that will stand still for long enough I guess. Either that or he's crop dusting them."

Not sure this is necessarily the case- sure, there are significant 'pockets' of xenophobic and even racist attitudes towards the Polish, but I think it would be wrong to assume that this represents a majority view.

Britain has a long and proud reputation for welcoming others and yes, it's not completely consistent everywhere but look at the longstanding immigrant communities in London, Birmingham, Leicster etc which for the most part are perfectly successful.

How many threads have got almost the same title as this one?
And exactly the same arguments?

Oh no they don't !
Or in chucklebrotherspeak - to me - to you - to me - to .....................

And I have nothing against the Kmiot but he is stinking so much...

By the way, I'm an Anglophile and nothing and nobody - not even some idiots whom you can find also among the English - can change me in this respect.

agree with you on that one

interesting point - my flight to poland last week was full of briitsh babies born to polish parents

re: briitsh babies born to polish parents

- And what do you mean by that?

re: my flight

- As a Polish poem says: Who's given you the wings, mate?
:)

re: this pseudo british nonsense,going on like that makes you sound jealous for some reason,and a little xenophobic yourself

- I am actually angry. Why jealous and xenophobic would I be, man? I am angry about what a very great - the greatest - nation (British) and Europe have come to.

I don't want this kind of crap in Poland.

In response to the pseudo brits or whatever this is a problem every society faces... to assimilate its new people or not... I think when a group decides to not is when you have big social problems. I read today that over half million Poles are in England... WOW...

I took this quote from a commentator blog on CNN. He is quoting an American President. You could / should insert the name of your country into America....


It's from President Theodore Roosevelt in a letter to the American Defense Society in 1919, 10 years after his presidency.
--Lou Dobbs

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

--Theodore Roosevelt, 1919

Mind you, you have to remember that America and Australia are huge countries which can adapt and more ethnic varieties than a small country like England. As I say, I have nothing against the Poles except that their conversations are always about themselves and about today. The Poles have not the ability to think objectively and long term which may explain this rather strange phenomenon! The other day, my wife got out all her best coffee cups and I wondered, why? Soon it was to become clear-a family of medical doctors from Krakow were about to invade my house for a cup of coffee and chat this evening after viewing yet another house on the market in our road. They were such bores! They had been house hunting and wanted us to make a decision as to what house they should buy from their long list. We tried to explain to them that a three bedroomed semi detached house is too small for a family of five plus the nanny to be plus the in-laws. I was lucky as I could make the excuse of going up stairs to give my little ones their baths and that I had to disapear to search for their bath towels! What a boring man, my God! Telling us all the details of the insides of other peoples houses and then he explained that one was was wilgotny and that word meant 'damp' in English. It is a good point that he went to explain all these term to us as my wife living for almost half a century in Poland would be unlikely to have ever heard of such terms. To quote the Puzzler's term, what an oink!

Actually no you are not. Simply being born in Britain does not qualify a person for a British passport.