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polishgirltx
  Mar 6, 08, 17:27  #1

I'm from Kraków so i say 'I'm going na pole'. All my Polish friends from different parts of PL say ' na dwór'. And they make fun of me ;) lol.....

How do you say it? :D

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JustysiaS
  Mar 6, 08, 17:33  #2

you mean go outside? i say 'na dwór', but im from Warmia ;)

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Lukasz
  Mar 6, 08, 17:34  #3

Na dwór. ;-) My friend always argue with me ... he is form south east Poland (Podkarpacie) and he uses your version.

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RJ_cdn
  Mar 6, 08, 17:34  #4

polishgirltx wrote:
'Na pole' or 'na dwor' ?

na pomorzu we say "na dwór"

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Wroclaw
  Mar 6, 08, 17:34  #5

polishgirltx wrote:
' na dwór'


In this house.

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Davey
  Mar 6, 08, 17:46  #6

I say 'na pole' just because most of the Poles I know are from Southern Poland.

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JustysiaS
  Mar 6, 08, 17:48  #7

ahh i remember when i was a kid and my friend came over to ask if i was coming out, and she asked 'idziesz na podwórek?' lol

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polishgirltx
  Mar 6, 08, 17:51  #8

yeah....sometimes i just say 'im going na zewnątrz' (outside) lol....

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JustysiaS
Edited by: JustysiaS  Mar 6, 08, 18:00  #9

idę na świeże powietrze/idę się przewietrzyć
idę do lasu narobić hałasu lmao

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krysia
  Mar 6, 08, 21:54  #10

I lived in Warsaw and we said "na dwór". Then when I lived in Krakow they said "na pole". But I never got used to saying "na pole"

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 6, 08, 22:17  #11

We said "na dwor" in Kieleckie. It always sounds funny to me when I hear "na pole" :)

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Tommy [Guest]
  Mar 6, 08, 23:48  #12

polishgirltx wrote:
I'm from Kraków so i say 'I'm going na pole'. All my Polish friends from different parts of PL say ' na dwór'. And they make fun of me ;) lol.....

How do you say it? :D



It is quite easy to guess the origin of this difference. In the past , Krakow residents used to live in nice houses and residences, so when they left them they said they were going "na pole," (to the field). The field was sort of a recreation area for them.

All other Poles, in Warsaw and elsewhere, used to live in crumbling cottages, so when they left them, they said they were going "na dwór" (to the mansion). It was their favourite entertainment to look at the mansion and watch people there. Like at the cinema.

That`s what some guy explained to me once.

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Edited by: Matek  Mar 8, 08, 15:45  #13

I always tought that "na pole" is used by people living in the villages, didn't know that it actually orginates from Southern Poland. But I does sound unnatural to me, I always used "na dwór".

Now a little quiz for non-polish. Where does "tej" originate? What part of the country. :)

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 8, 08, 15:51  #14

Na pole is no guarantee of being from the whole of the South of Poland. For example, here in Silesia, which is in the South of Poland, they generally say 'na dwór' more here. Na pole is more of a Kraków term and from the villages as said above

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wozzy
  Mar 9, 08, 05:55  #15

In our home in Manchester we always said " na pole" My parents came from the southeast..........

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Edited by: osiol  Mar 9, 08, 06:23  #16

I assume 'na pole' works fine for Poles from any part of the country if it really is a field out there, as opposed to a street, garden, backyard or just the exterior of your spaceship.

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Krzysztof
Edited by: Krzysztof  Mar 9, 08, 06:50  #17

you assume correctly, osiol, when I leave my spaceship I always say "idę na dwór" (I'm from central Poland)

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 9, 08, 06:51  #18

Well, look at the word, na POLE. I guess a Pole would get it

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Edited by: osiol  Mar 9, 08, 06:57  #19

What is the difference between:
na dwór,
na dworze, and
na świeżym powietrzu?

Poland = land of fields.
I don't know what all those towns, cities and woodlands and forests are all about.

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RJ_cdn
  Mar 9, 08, 07:02  #20

Seanus wrote:
look at the word, na POLE. I guess a Pole would get it

Not really. First time I heard "lets go na pole" my answer was "it will take us 1/2 hr to get there"

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 9, 08, 07:07  #21

I should have put LOL as I know that many are so accustomed to saying na dwór. It was a sad attempt at a joke RJ, my apologies

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Krzysztof
  Mar 9, 08, 07:46  #22

osiol wrote:
What is the difference between:

na dwór = direction (to go) - iść na dwór, wyjść na dwór
na dworze = stay (to be) - byłem na dworze, "Mama jest na dworze, zaraz ją zawołam"
na świeżym powietrzu = open air [literally: fresh air] (in opposition to indoor activities) - Lubię wypoczynek na świeżym powietrzu.

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osiol GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 9, 08, 08:31  #23

Thanks, Krzysztof. After I posted, I guessed that was roughly the answer, but it's always nice to have some reassurance sometimes.

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Davey
Edited by: Davey  Mar 9, 08, 11:03  #24

Seanus wrote:
For example, here in Silesia, which is in the South of Poland, they generally say 'na dwór' more here. Na pole is more of a Kraków term and from the villages as said above


When I was in Bieruń(Close to Katowice) in Silesia, they told me 'outside' was na pole, they never said na dwór

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 9, 08, 11:51  #25

But were they TRUE Silesians or just living in Silesia?

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Davey
  Mar 9, 08, 11:58  #26

Seanus wrote:
But were they TRUE Silesians or just living in Silesia?

They were true Silesians.....everyone where they lived said na pole so they got me saying that now=P

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 9, 08, 12:03  #27

If u meet Hanys people, they invariably say na dwór, I hear it often as I live in Silesia.

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Davey
  Mar 9, 08, 12:14  #28

I just asked my cousin about it in an email, i will let you know the answer when he replies=)

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Davey
  Mar 9, 08, 18:51  #29

Here is the response from my cousin in Bieruń:

'We say 'na pole' because it is regional custom, it is an example of silesian language, there are a lot of differences in 'speaking language' in different parts of Poland'

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 10, 08, 04:01  #30

Well, my girlfriend is a staunch Silesian with Silesian/German parents and they insist otherwise but the point is hardly worth arguing, especially for a foreigner

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