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Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide?


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Kaczor Duck
  Jul 22, 07, 08:37  #151

Quoting: Puzzler
Yeah, the chutzpah of the germans is so awful today that I have thought it doesn't need being pointed at to some (I don't mean you). But then again the germans have always been so - first they attack somebody aggressively, and when they get beaten up, they portray themselves as the victim

Puzzler,
Is the theme of the New World, NO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!! Portrey being a victim even if you are the agrssor, ....I was beaten when I was a kid...I was molested...I didnt grow up in the best neighborhood..WA WA WA WA..always crying. It fits the new age feelings..when you get emotions involved people can be tricked into thinking they are not so bad.

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  Jul 22, 07, 09:06  #152

Quoting: Kaczor Duck
I was beaten when I was a kid...I was molested...I didnt grow up in the best neighborhood..WA WA WA WA..always crying.


The Poles are masters of this technique! :)

 
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Daisy
  Jul 22, 07, 09:08  #153

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
The Poles are masters of this technique! :)


that's a generalisation isn't it? a bit like saying all Germans are Nazis

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  Jul 22, 07, 09:11  #154

Quoting: Daisy
a bit like saying all Germans are Nazis


And???
I'm just discussing on Puzzies niveau...THIS doesn't seem to disturb you!

 
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Maxxx Payne
  Jul 22, 07, 09:12  #155

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy

Quoting: Kaczor Duck
I was beaten when I was a kid...I was molested...I didnt grow up in the best neighborhood..WA WA WA WA..always crying.


The Poles are masters of this technique! :)



Somehow I cant think any major Polish crimes against humanity, while I donīt have to look so far to find German ones...

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  Jul 22, 07, 09:13  #156

That's why they are whining so much....

 
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Daisy
  Jul 22, 07, 09:41  #157

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
I'm just discussing on Puzzies niveau...THIS doesn't seem to disturb you!


I was responding to your statement, not Puzzlers

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  Jul 22, 07, 09:51  #158

Quoting: Daisy
I was responding to your statement, not Puzzlers


Exactly!

 
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Daisy
  Jul 22, 07, 10:04  #159

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Exactly!


and who is whingeing and complaining now?

 
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Daisy
  Jul 22, 07, 10:08  #160

Quoting: Daisy
I'm just discussing on Puzzies niveau...THIS doesn't seem to disturb you!


I was responding to your statement, not Puzzlers


you complained that Puzzie said somewhere that all Germans were Nazis, but then go on to make a generalisation about Poles. I am just saying that you shouldn't complain about Puzzlers accusations when you behave the same way.

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  Jul 22, 07, 10:08  #161

Quoting: Daisy

and who is whingeing and complaining now?


I'm not! Heil!

 
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Daisy
  Jul 22, 07, 10:09  #162

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
I'm not! Heil!


yes you was

 
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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Jul 22, 07, 13:08  #163

Quoting: Maxxx Payne
I cant think any major Polish crimes against humanity, while I donīt have to look so far to find German ones...


That's quite correct.

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
That's why they are whining so much....


The respond makes no sense. Are Poles whining because they are not aggressors? ...maybe we just don't have the "savage' within...even on this forum.

Pat, I have a good German friend. She indeed is and there are many like her. I would not join any general German bashing frenzy.
What I don't care for is BB's "we're the greatest" attitude and a cocky, at times insolent, behavior toward Poland. Poland and Germany are neighbors, young people thinking like that, are a danger and should not be ignored or encouraged. Yes, he is entitled to his opinion: blah, blah, blah... and so am I.

We need posters like Puzzler to keep "the young and the restless" in check. Puzz might be harsh at times, but "nice" doesn't always cut it... Go Puzz! :)

Look above, how quick BB turned against Daisy. Now kids, back to your corners.

 
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daffy
  Jul 22, 07, 13:21  #164

Nazism in Poland - A recipe for mass suicide?

 
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Justyna69 [Guest]
  Jul 22, 07, 13:23  #165

Quoting: Eurola
What I don't care for is BB's "we're the greatest" attitude and a cocky, at times insolent, behavior toward Poland. Poland and Germany are neighbors, young people thinking like that, are a danger and should not be ignored or encouraged.

You're absolutely right but as far as the arrogance I have to admit that even us Poles tend to be arrogant sometimes just like all of the other nations.

 
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Daisy
Edited by: Daisy  Jul 22, 07, 13:23  #166

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Nope...t`wasn't him!


you did, I point out that you make a generalisation against Poles, something you don't like when people makes remarks about Germans, and all you do is bleat on about you didn't say that to Puzzie well I wasn't talking to Puzzie, I was picking you up on what you had said

and you did start it

 
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Patrycja19
  Jul 22, 07, 13:24  #167

Quoting: Eurola
We need posters like Puzzler to keep "the young and the restless" in check. Puzz might be harsh at times, but "nice" doesn't always cut it... Go Puzz! :)


if thats all he stuck too I would be more then happy. but he dont.. I wont cheer
him on when he stabs..

no one really reads the whole posts.. brat came in here defending.. yes he said
some things about poles because he was drawn in by the posts that were said
about germans.. we all defend our countries.. its a given..

How bout this..

Brat.. tell us what you really feel about Polish people and about Poland today
give us all details .. be honest.. what do you have against the poles in general
if anything at all.

also tell us what you think about the nazism or neo nazis in todays society,
and what you think is happening now..

Give us a clearer picture..

 
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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Jul 22, 07, 13:26  #168

Quoting: Daisy
you did, I point out that you make a generalisation against Poles, something you don't like when people makes remarks about Germans, and all you do is bleat on about you didn't say that to Puzzie well I wasn't talking to Puzzie, I was picking you up on what you had said



How I see it if someone like Puzzy makes the insanest generalizations about Germans it just stays....no post to correct him...nothing.
It seems you agree with him!

The moment I answer in kind you are all over me! But frankly since you are not objective I give a sh*it about your opinion!

Puzzy p*isses on Germans I p*iss on Poles, basta!

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  Jul 22, 07, 13:39  #169

Quoting: Patrycja19
your not putting out the
fire brat your only fueling it by saying mean things about poles.. thats all.


What do you suggest I do?

Not reacting at all??? It's a talk board...

 
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Daisy
Edited by: Daisy  Jul 22, 07, 13:40  #170

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
But I have not so much a prob with Puzz but with this blatant taking sides of Daisy..that REALLY p*isses me off!


You are all transmit and not recieve... I'm trying to tell you that you are not helping yourself, you see it as taking sides..I've had some pretty spectacular arguments with Puzzler in the past, we all have

Quoting: Patrycja19
your not putting out the


which is what I have been trying to tell him *rips hair out in frustration*

 
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Patrycja19
  Jul 22, 07, 13:45  #171

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
What do you suggest I do?

Not reacting at all??? It's a talk board...


you know, you have this opinion against poles because why?
your mad at puzzy. not the whole polish nation.. hes the one who said the
words you didnt like..

attacking with generalizations daisy does have a point.. I thought you would catch
that or you did and was just playing with her :)

 
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Patrycja19
  Jul 22, 07, 14:07  #172

Quoting: shopgirl
But the barb that is set for you....seems to much for you to walk away from..... because it is so outlandish.


then brat gets mad, says mean things about poland , the whole board gets mad
at brat.. thus puzzy has made this happen.. and brat falls into it..

I am really tired of trying to figure out the puzzler.. but hes not hard to figure out
Ive summed him up to bi-polar.. everyone was a Polonophobic now everyone is
a Nazi.. or neo nazi.. I wonder which puzzling nation he will pick on next..

 
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shopgirl
  Jul 22, 07, 14:08  #173

Quoting: Patrycja19
have pointed this out.. hes got a pattern folks

I know....cause I watched him do this with you too. He sees where a person's "buttons" are and then pushes them to get you off balance. He even tried to do this with me once.....but I wouldn't take the bait. I like to stay on center. He's very sneaky that way.

But it gets very confusing to the other posters....because they don't follow closely enough to see the dynamic behind the exchange of words.

I like a good debate. I learn something every time. Even about myself. But when Puzzy starts to light the fireworks.....people just get hurt and upset. :(

 
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shopgirl
  Jul 22, 07, 14:09  #174

Quoting: Daisy
do, but you try explaining that to BB

But it has taken many others a long time to see this.
And it is really hard for Bratski to stand by and accept all the rubbish Puzz hurls at him.

 
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shopgirl
Edited by: shopgirl  Jul 22, 07, 14:21  #175

Quoting: Patrycja19
as with any human who defends their country.. geese where have I heard this
before??

SG.. thanks :)

Your welcom, Sis.
But I think about what you and Miranda have been through....and at some point the only thing you can do is walk away from him.....cause it's not a fair fight. And it not that I don't like Puzzly, cause I do, I feel like he can't help himself. But I also thinks he feeds on attention....negative or positive. And he gets fed a lot here.

I just don't like seeing the people I care about getting tossed about on these threads. If it could be a evenly represented, fair debate with useful information.....it would be helpful. But this topic won't get that kind of treatment in the current environment. That's why I said what I did when this thread began........

There are neo nazis everywhere. Put the term in google for forums and they pop up everywhere. The term came out of post war France to denote any people who shared similiar ideology to the orignal Nazi party. It is used today to refer to a wide range of groups with different agendas....from white supremists, to football hooligans or even to refer to overzealous moderation of forums "board nazi" or "nazi mod". The term has a life of its own now. Hell, I even called my ex the "media nazi" cause I never got a chance to play any movie or cd of my choice in the house. He controlled it all. Seinfeld had the famous "Soup Nazi"....."no soup for you!".

whatever.....

 
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Patrycja19
  Jul 22, 07, 17:53  #176

Quoting: shopgirl
If it could be a evenly represented, fair debate with useful information.....it would be helpful.


agree.

Brat are you ever going to answer those questions?

I have a feeling it would clear the air on alot of things ...
Perhaps you have some useful information for others?

Personally, for myself.. I dont understand why any govts allow such behavior..
even here in America its annoying.. Nazism, kkk, etc

sometimes I wish I was a giant.. so I could take my finger and flick the idiots off
the globe.. like a slingshot.. no more Dupa's here. send them to mars.. here ya
go, your the grand power of the planet mars.. have fun..

 
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shopgirl
  Jul 22, 07, 21:44  #177

Quoting: Puzzler
What is meant here by attention-seeking?

Aha! You're here! Actually I have thought about that some more, and I have changed my mind somewhat about the attention seeking part. I think when you attack it may have more to do with disarming your opponent......putting them off balance.

 
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shopgirl
  Jul 22, 07, 21:47  #178

Puzzly, you get back here this instant! I've been waiting to talk to you! :)

 
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Puzzler
  Jul 22, 07, 21:51  #179

re: That's why they are whining so much....

- No, we are not whining. In reality, we try to oppose the vicious german propaganda of twisting around history and portraying the germans as the victims in order to build up such a mass percepton when it will be possible for them to try to grab our territory eventually.

In realty, its the germans like you (and there are great many of them) who are whining indignantly - whining vitriolic historical lies and hoping they will get away wth that because they are strong.

What stupidity.

See who is the real troublemaker in Europe?

As always.

 
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shopgirl
  Jul 22, 07, 21:53  #180

Quoting: Puzzler
In realty, its the germans like you (and there are great many of them) who are whining indignantly - whining vitriolic historical lies and hoping they will get away wth that because they are strong.

And when you say "like you" to whom are you referring? ;)

 
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